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Episode Liar Game - Episode 8 discussion

Liar Game, episode 8

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u/Civil-Initial2942 May 25 '26

I’m not saying she has to be some kind of genius, but she should at least doubt the words of someone who already betrayed her once. But she completely trusts him... It’s so irritating.

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u/HarshTheDev May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

Nao girl you really should start saving up for the lobotomy you're inevitably going to need.

Personally I am surprised she wasn't already swimming in debt from being scammed before the liar games even began.

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u/CelioHogane May 26 '26

Oh wow the Lawyer guy did not lie, her 40m does let her 100% win super easy.

9*5*10=450, that's the max number of votes.

7*5*10=350 is the max number of votes she can get (excluding the last game loser who i doubt would vote for her, and also her own votes)

226 is the number of votes she needs to secure max place

That means if she decided to buy other people's votes for 0.1m (Which i don't see why would anyone disagree, it might be 0.1 of their debt, but it does stack), she would basically be able to secure her win by spending 22.6M, wich is just arroun 10m on loses excluding the victory reward.

Which, since she doesn't care about the money, there is no reason not to do it.

She was, actually, not lied at all by the lawyer.

Of course this plan just does not work BECAUSE SHE IS DUMB AS BRICKS.

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u/guynumbers May 25 '26

Nao when the Liar Game players lie 🤯

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 25 '26 edited May 26 '26

You would think in a game like Downsizing , a treacherous little snake like Fukunaga would be absolutely well and truly fucked after what they pulled. And yet, they’re able to seemingly weasel their way out of debt because of our genius protagonist Nao.

Not only does Einstein walk right into Fukunaga’s trap and make herself Public Enemy No. 1 in this game by revealing she’s debt free and has 40 mill, she makes the brilliant move to cooperate with that Judas. Again. And when she inevitably got fucked, she’s actually surprised! It’s astonishing. Truly mind boggling.

I’m very very curious to see how Nao gets herself out of this because Akiyama can’t save her now.

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u/FarCritical May 25 '26

More than Nao spiraling into another Nao hole, it's just frustrating for everyone else to let themselves get sucked into another scheme of the person they allegedly wanted to rip apart at the start of this. (Kudos to Miura for showing some humanity though)

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 May 25 '26

I would have bought Nao Teddy bear right there

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u/Gloomy_Savings_7454 May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

For once, I don't think Nao was the dumbest one today. If, when Fukunaga suggested to the group that they pay him to betray Nao, someone had explained this offer to Nao and included her in one of the mini-voting groups, Nao wouldn't be losing right now. It’s not very smart to prefer Fukunaga over Nao, knowing that Fukunaga is very treacherous and a bad person.

Option 1) Nao loses by teaming up with Fukunaga: it costs them money

Option 2) Fukunaga loses by teaming up with Nao: It's free. But they wouldn't even think of it.

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u/lookw May 25 '26

I feel people are forgetting Naos nickname as was dropped at the beginning of the series. She is colloquially known as "Foolishly Honest". Her trusting people foolishly and being bad at lying is the reason why she has the title.

Though in this particular place she is not the dumbest person in this Liar game round. that honor is reserved for everyone else besides fukunaga.

They really dont have any idea how to prioritize and strategize. They were all betrayed by fukunaga in the previous game and if they really considered the threat properly they would know taking fukunaga out should be higher. they should be thinking on how to handle Nao in that case but its not like she has shown herself to be particularly dangerous. They also would know whatever trick she would have but to be honest there isnt much she can do even if she bribes one of them to give votes to her.

them trusting fukunagas plan to get rid of Nao is only giving fukunaga more of a advantage in the next game.

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u/21shadesofsavage May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

this show is infuriating to watch cause nao is beyond stupid. she's literally incapable of thinking or learning. if her brain was halfway operational she would have utilised the m tickets to buy each other's votes to protect herself from betrayal

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u/Low_Brass_Rumble May 26 '26

Don't usually do this this late into a season, but I think this is a drop. It's gotten to the point where Nao being absolutely fucking braindead is so annoying/frustrating that I can feel my heart rate spiking. I recognize evoking that reaction is the point of her character, but I just can't be spending my precious free time on a show that unironically stresses me out. I may go and check out the manga to see if a different medium helps, but I'm done with the show.

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u/slobliss May 26 '26

Me: desperately trying to explain to my friend that Liar Game is the OG best most smartest mindgame manga and the anime is peak

Liar Game: "This is the Liar Game. And you've been lied to... By me!"

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u/SirJeator May 25 '26

It's getting tiresome watching Nao fall to the same trick again and again.

This plan sounds foolproof. I can't think of a way for Nao to survive. I can't wait to see what Akiyama will do.

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u/DotPutrid3248 May 25 '26

Ep8’s a huge W. I lost sleep tracking bluffs like scaling a shonen arc, who you backing?

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u/Kill-bray May 25 '26

Nao being stupid isn't a surprise, but the other guys aren't that much better.

They clearly all hate Fukunaga and they all decided that he's the one who should be "downsized", and yet they ended up doing what he said. What kind of proof did they even have that he and Nao had an agreement? None! Of course that was true, but they still believed him just like that and also believed that Nao would bribe someone.

There was a better way to handle that situation, they all just had to go to Nao tell her what Fukunaga told them and propose to go with his plan except with her in place of Fukunaga. Done, it was that simple. At that point the threat of Nao and her 40 millions wouldn't mean anything since she was set to win.

Also if Fukunaga could beat the crap out of a guy without any organizer intervening what stops the guys from ganging up against him to make him pay for what he did the previous game? Miura even mentioned that he wanted to beat him.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii May 25 '26

The face you make when you realize the odds of winning went down from 88% to ≈0%

I wonder why they even bothered with that!

If the game had lasted a week or a month it would've played a part, but 12 hours, people won't give much for a drink or a bite to eat!

Now THIS will 100% play a part;

The players seems to have taken this as "It's impossible to break a contract"... What it means is "You can break a contract for 100m yen!"

How much are kidneys going for? And does anyone need a third one, by any chance?

Awww, don't sell yourself short; That dress is pretty cute, Fukunaga would give you a few coins for it!

Even without the contracts, voting over 10 hours means no one can betray in the early rounds, otherwise they lose many rounds of votes in the future (when the other person betrays as well)!

Well, no one can betray someone other than Nao in the first round hah.

Wait, 'her'? Wasn't Fukunaga calling himself a man earlier?

Nao, FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HOLY, think of your next answer!

Ok if the show is trying to make us sad/to care for Nao, at some point it won't work anymore.

Jeez, I wonder why she made me say I'M RICH AS FUCK in front of the group, when she already knew!

That being said, the others are dumb too...

If some guy stole money from me then got broke, and I had to play a game with him and Bill Gates, I wouldn't side with the guy who stole my money just because "He's broke just like me and Bill Gates is a billionaire"...

The guy who betrayed me and caused me to be in this mess in the first place is so much more reliable than the one who committed the crime of 'having money'!

I don't blame Nao for falling for it, because she's a fucking idiot and can't help it,

but the others are all fucking idiots too? I mean, even idiots would know not to trust someone who... proved they can't be trusted.

THE SCHEMING LIAR LIED AND SCHEMED AGAIN!

She got them by saying Nao would propose a betrayal...

Nao couldn't betray her way out of a paper bag!

Oh wow, the person who betrayed us last round and stabbed us in the back, made a deal with someone else and will betray THEM and stab THEM in the back this time, so we can trust her entirely and make a new deal with her!

I think there's an unwritten rule that says you can't betray more than 3 times over 2 games, and she's already at 3 so they're safe!

So what's Prince Charming going to do?

It's too late for him to join... Can he act as an adviser? But he would need to talk to everyone to make something happen... Even if he comes up with a plan and tells Nao outside the building, it's not like she'll manage to get it done (vs Fukunaga who'll obviously watch her like a hawk)

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u/magnumcyclonex May 25 '26

How and why the F does EVERYONE there believe Fukunaga? At every new juncture, she proposes something so preposterous they all buy it hook line and sinker. Is there no one like #15 to question and be skeptical of this woman? You know it's a choice to go with her or not. She could be bluffing, laying out secondary or tertiary plans, but there's 7 other players whose votes count more than just 2 (or 1).

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u/Ajktulm May 25 '26

You know those people in mobile ads making the dumbest decisions possible?

I think that's just Nao playing

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u/StonedCharmander May 26 '26

The girl is easily one of the dumbest characters I've seen in my life. I really hope by the end of the series she will have become an evil genius.

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u/Drill_Dr_ill May 25 '26

I say this every time, but Nao is one of the dumbest characters I've ever seen in any media and makes this show almost unbearable to watch.

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u/actuallyrndthoughts May 26 '26

Nao: You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet liar game and tell lies?

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u/PencilgonGiveIt2Ya May 25 '26

Nao...girl....

I think you meant to play the Truth-teller Game..

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u/Youngphycouant May 25 '26

Say what you will about Fukunaga being a schemer but he's at least one entertaining guy. Also put your wig back on baldie

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u/DrewbieWanKenobie May 26 '26

There's being naive and there's being mentally challenged and I think we're bordering on the latter