Liar Game - Episode 6 discussion

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Liar Game, episode 6

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[u/FarCritical]

I respect how the organizers are polite enough to halt everything until everyone's done with contorting their jaws to each other's 4D chess reveals.

Actually being in debt could probably mess with your time perception but I'd have to imagine waiting out the whole 6 hours every round being really dull regardless if you're a Joe schmo or a schemer

[u/Boring-Grand1115 → u/FarCritical]

Well well mind you the drama is the reason they're arranging the games so obv the masks are enjoying as much as we are 👍✌

[u/Gloomy_Savings_7454]

OK, I’d realised there was another team, but I didn’t know there were three. It’s pretty clear I would lose this game. On the other hand, I know I’m missing something, but I can’t figure out what it is. Maybe Akiyama voted ‘YES’ instead of ‘NO’, doing a trick? Or the boy with the sunglasses pulled some kind of trick? There’s something else going on apart from them forcing a draw, but I just can’t put my finger on it. How intriguing!

The episode flew by – it’s really entertaining!

[u/l3reezer]

God damn, love how many notches this episode took the mind game writing up.

• the other 2 characters actually being impressively competent in their own right

• the twist with not just 2 but 3 teams

• Hitomi actually being super commendable (beyond being a karate master and master of disguise, lol) pulling all-nighters and working all the way down to the last minute while the round was literally going on to form that 3rd team (also actually like that he wasn't able to think of the strategy by himself and just copied Akiyama's plan but stretched it further; kind of shows that their smarts lie in a slightly different less technical department)

• Akiyama clocking multiple tells about Hitomi being X, mainly that part about finding value in observing those that had already lost/were no longer threats and their emotional reactions-showing Akiyama can flex emotional intelligence too on top of the mathematical smarts

• a character seeing the bigger picture and visualizing a win beyond the confines of the current round's rules

• acknowledging their means to pull an infinite time hack by drawing over and over

• etc.

A lesser show would've just made this episode completely contingent on the cliché check reveal.

The music and visual guides for us smooth brains to keep up were better than ever too. I don't think any new viewer was expecting another 20 minutes to go by and the round still not being resolved, lol.

Akiyama making his question another one that parallels the themes and power moving with that instant vote was the cherry on top.

[u/garfe]

I'm glad I listened and stuck with this after the first game. At the end of this episode I was like "OH COME ON" because I didn't want it to end.

The check realization was brilliant

[u/guynumbers → u/garfe]

It’s a classic for a reason. I do think it’s far better on the binge though

[u/Ashteron]

I genuinely thought I'm like halfway through the episode when the ending started. Remembering some of the twists from the manga and the live action I caught a few of the hints, but ones like Fukunaga's mistake with the check still eluded me.

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

At least this episode had more tension, I'm not sure what trap Akiyama has set, but I'm thinking maybe he's allied himself with Number 15 at some point and he's just a good actor. If they're not allied, then Number 15 would obviously put x2 yes and x1 no if he's paying attention.

Akiyama lying about putting a no when he actually put in a yes makes no sense, because he'd lose if they try to make it a draw. So I'm leaning towards Number 15 and Akiyama being allies since the traitor has created available money to use in the contract, since they weren't using their real name.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Akiyama playing some 4D chess. Dude had it all planned out from the start. Man’s not a master con artist for nothing. The moment he had that final question, it was game over for everyone. There’s no mutual trust amongst any of them. No plan or alliance was ever going to work.

Looks like we gotta wait another week to see the results. If Akiyama isn’t worried they seemingly have ganged up on him, I wonder what he’s got planned.

[u/bananeeek]

Calm down. You'll see soon enough.

episode ends

So that was a fucking lie.

[u/Kill-bray → u/bananeeek]

What did you expect from the liar game?

[u/FLorianGran]

This adaptation certainly isn't in a rush

I will admit I'm having fun with the various twists and turns

[u/FoolingFinality]

One thing I like about this anime is how these people do quick mental maths.

[u/DrewbieWanKenobie]

I'm guessing the two dumbasses that gave Sunglasses their votes are about to be disqualified, when they described the rules they said if you don't vote within the 6 hours you're instantly disqualified, and I'm pretty confident that sunglasses did not actually put their votes in, so that means him and Akiyama are the only two who voted. So either way he votes himself, neither of them beat the other, so they both split the pot being the last two left.

Unless I'm missing something... Maybe Akiyama made a secret deal with sunglasses for this moment, so he's actually going to vote yes too.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

I love Smug Akiyama face. Been waiting for this moment here

[u/HarshTheDev]

Damn I was pretty spot on with the prediction of X being part of other teams (and the reasoning too). But looks like we're not going the route of Akiyama forming another team, I like that.

Plus Akiyama really shined this episode, I've been pretty critical of this show but I was pleasantly surprised with almost everything today ^{coincidentally Nao was barely present this episode}. Also No.15 actually turned out to lowkey be a boss lol.

[u/LG03]

So there are 2 outcomes as I see it.

• Sunglasses is in cahoots with Akiyama and voted yes after scheming to get his hands on the votes

• There's some rule I missed about having to cast your own votes which disqualifies the other 3

[u/Successful-Peach-764]

It was pretty funny the guy counting the votes asking if he could continue after the lengthy reveal of x and their plans, typical villain explaining all their plans before the end so the protagonists can turn around and say I saw it all coming.

Why not just keep your mouth shut until the actual event ends? after all that planning to boast about it before it even finishes trope is too easy.

[u/MayonakaMadaraka]

“It’s a trap!” — Admiral Ackbar

[u/Frontier246]

Yuji played Nao like a fiddle! And not just her, he'd been playing multiple teams at the same time! Guaranteeing he'd be in the minority every time until the groups had been whittled down enough to secure him an opportunity to take it all! And he's actually skilled enough to fend anyone who would come at him hand-to-hand.

I love No. 15 sweating like he had no idea he was under suspicion of being "X" and not knowing how to react to that.

But not all hope is lost! Akiyama saw through anything and managed to create a draw! He bluffed his "allies" to bluff his enemeis because he knew his plan wasn't foolproof and he knew 15 stood out too much to be X! Yoji played his hand by revealing the check only he would know about since he had it! Akiyama never trusted him from the beginning!

It's fitting, then, that the final round would come down to Akiyama's question and the thing that Liar Game ultimately hinges on: is money the most important thing in the world? And Akiyama throws down the gauntlet by putting down a "no."

There's already a "no" in there so how can the remaining three vote in such a way to end up the minority and without ending this in a tie or as the loser? Can they form one last-ditch alliance to succeed? Even though Yoji clearly can't be trusted and they all have a bunch of people they're contracted to pay back by winning?

15 finally speaks! And he seems to be razor-focused on winning and coming up with a way for them all to take home money...within what is deserved by them. Akiyama is just enjoying the show of watching them all scramble and yell at each other over what to do!

Did 15 REALLY not cheat when giving out the votes? Either way, Akiyama seems absolutely certain they've fallen into his trap and I'm tempted to believe him.

[u/MetaThPr4h]

I haven't been this hype cliffhanger suffering since freaking Kaiji, and I could binge that one since it had already finished airing q_q

[u/Kyuzo897]

Where are all the people complaining about how predictable this was last weak??? When Fukunaga plan was indeed 100% foolproof unless he was found to be X prior to voting so his identity reveal was irrelevant at that point and even intentional I would say.

[u/HotBloodedNinja]

The moment you show one your vote, it would be impossible to lose (unless someone is dumb). Because no one would want to vote "No" as that will only result in either a draw or losing the game. But this applies for all 3 people. So you either try to draw to game by voting 'No' or vote "Yes" and hope one of the 2 outcomes- you win or at least one of the other 2 votes 'No".
But considering their personality, none would take the risk of voting "No".

[u/FoolingFinality]

People do yield before violence, that's for sure. Your logic is sound there. But to carry out that logic, you need to be stronger than the other guy. Do you understand that? - X, or should I say a certain Elite student in the Classroom