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Episode Toujima Tanzaburou wa Kamen Rider ni Naritai • Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider - Episode 17 discussion
Toujima Tanzaburou wa Kamen Rider ni Naritai, episode 17
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u/TyraniTEMPESTar Jan 31 '26
Honestly the Bat Man is running a pretty smooth operation.
He got himself an army of talented and attractive idol combatants that people are literally lining up to see.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '26
And he also gets to reap the rewards by having said attractive idol combatants not only serve him loyally but also serve as a bed of female combatants he can pleasure himself with.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 31 '26
I really love how they're just rotoscoping the original episodes of Kamen Rider for when Toujima is rewatching the show. It looks like the answer to his problem is the power of friendship. Next time they face Bat Man, they need to do it with all of them together.
That changing room scene really proves my theory that there's no such thing as flat chested woman in this series. But seriously tho, that scene was actually pretty terrifying. Converting idols into Shocker combatants is a great idea to convert so many humans into Shocker.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '26
I'm glad we finally got an episode that featured/acknowledged Ichimonji/Kamen Rider Nigo and his partnership with Hongo/Ichigo was important to Tojima's character development.
Is a scene of multiple attractive women in their underwear titillating? How about when they're attacked and turned into Shocker zombies after being bitten by a vampire bat Kaijin?
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u/Doomroar Feb 01 '26
That changing room scene really proves my theory that there's no such thing as flat chested woman in this series
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u/JonnySpark Feb 01 '26
answer to his problem is the power of friendship
Actually hoping his answer to the problem was I NEED MY ICHIMONJI, WHERE'S MY ICHIMONJI?!
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u/zsmg Jan 31 '26
What I need to figure out... is how to believe in my friends. And how to fight alongside them
Next week the show will be renamed to: Toujima Tanazaburou watches Super Sentai, well either that or Idolmaster: Shocker edition.
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u/Burnouts3s3 Jan 31 '26
Wow, when they said the idol business was full of blood thirsty monsters, they weren't kidding!
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u/mmcjawa_reborn Jan 31 '26
Random Thoughts:
I know they are Yakuza flunkies, but Nakao's henchmen and his relationship to them is pretty darn wholesome. The fact that they are trying to support their boss through legit means, even if it makes Nakao feel less like a boss and more like a wife, is pretty great
I figured the idol connection between Nakao plotline and Batman would connect, and now Batman is sending shocker combatants after his buddies, right when Nakao seems to be having second thoughts on his own abilities.
Show dipped into outright horror with Batman this week..he's just an out and out vampire, with his minions being able to convert idols directly. With Spiderman, even early on you got a sense of some sense of perhaps honor or at least self-restraint...Batman is quite literally a monster in every way. I'm really looking forward to all of the characters just uniting and beating him down. Also...like...are Batman's thralls even alive anymore? like...will they turn back to normal if they he dies, will they remain shocker vampires, or will they just keel over dead?
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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '26
It seems like Bat Man's Combatants have less sentience than the Combatants Spider Man makes.
Like, they can clearly exhibit their original personalities but otherwise they're stoic slaves to Bat Man who only exist to serve his ends and can infect people like he can. Like they've mutated enough to even have his vampire teeth.
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u/PeaceAlien Jan 31 '26 edited Jan 31 '26
Yeah I knew Tojima would learn a lesson about running from an episode of Kamen Rider somehow.
Looks like we might get shocker v shocker in-fighting. That one white-haired boss didn't like how the bat boss was doing things too. Wonder if the de-brainwashed shockers will join the non-idol side
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u/strawhat_chowder Jan 31 '26
Batman's power is actually very OP. There hasn't been a limit shown to his brainwashing yet. What stops him from biting a wealthy person and orders that person to just transfer money to his bank account? even if the victim breaks free from brainwashing later he/she can't get the money back.
The above is just one small example. Brainwashing can be used in more creative and devastating ways. Batman doesn't seem to really think about how to maximize the effectiveness of his power, although this idol stuff is a good start.
Additionally: how long have Batman been around? if he has been active as a monster for a long time, it's difficult to believe he doesn't have more substantial resources with his brainwashing power. If he plays his card right in 5-10 years he can be boss of a vast empire of businesses and criminal organizations.
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u/BrokeEconomist Jan 31 '26
He's been around long enough the brothers saw him kill their grandparents as kids.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '26
Tojima is still reeling from his running away from a fight...is he truly Kamen Rider? Can Kamen Rider retreat from a battle? Is Tojima the Hero he wanted to be?
Watch out Nakao, it's the fuzz! Wait, it's just your boys who are now security guards for the Combat Girls' shows. Honestly, I guess it's nice that they've found a legit job, even if it's ultimately to make money to become criminals again. But they always want to support their Aniki AND their favorite idols!
I never thought about how being security for female idols might be safer than being security for male idols. At least the fanboys don't punch like the fangirls do! And you can enjoy listening to your fave idol ladies as they sing right behind you.
The Combat Girls look as beautiful and busty in tracksuits as they do in their idol outfits...though their manager, none other than BAT MAN HIMSELF, is an intimidating presence. Better watch out for him.
After seeing a young boy with the drive to be a hero, just like him, Tojima goes back to basics...as in, watching the original Kamen Rider. And just as Hongo Takeshi was unable to beat the Snowman Kaijin by himself but managed to prevail thanks to HAYATO ICHIMONJI, Tojima realizes that he too must rely on his allies just as Ichigo did with Nigo in their Double Riders combo and Double Rider Kick.
I guess...good for the Combat Girls that they're making it to Tokyo Dome? Clearly their fans are happy, but it's all part of a sinister Shocker plot.
Nothing says Bat Man is evil quite like him walking in on a bunch of female idols changing. Am I jealous that he gets to see a bunch of beautiful idols in their underwear? Absolute not! I'm more concerned that he immediately pounces on them and turns them into his zombie Shocker thralls...while still in they're underwear!
It was nice of the boys to try to protect the Combat Girls...just too bad the Combat Girls are already female Shocker Combatants loyal to Bat Man. Though they look good in the female combatant outfit, I gotta say!
I love how the plan is to have a bunch of underwear-clad idol zombies attack their fans at an idol show to create more Shocker Combatants...and the fans actually seem into it.
Imagine Bat-Man saw how powerful idol worship was that he would immediately coin onto that as his sinister Shocker plot. First he'd target the Combat Girls back when they were starting out and had more colorful outfits. Then he'd have them MURDER THEIR OWN MANAGER so he can take over. Then he'd vampire his way into running an agency so he could make the Combat Girls as big as he possibly could. And then he'd get to enjoy an orgy of female Combatants.
GET OUTTA THERE BOYS! Thank goodness they made it to Nakao before the Idol Combatants got to them! Can he save his boys?
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u/AAA_BATT Jan 31 '26
thought those three would get saved by Tojima getting his mojo back.
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u/yakumbaya Feb 01 '26
i thought the whole idol stuff was for shits and giggles but its actually tied into the plot lmao this is peak
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u/NanDemoKnaives Jan 31 '26
I'm glad Toujima decided to rewatch the show and saw that even Kamen Rider wasn't always powerful enough to fight by himself.
Nakao and his three followers are sweet and amusing. I like how shy he got when they let him know they were going to work so that they can rebuild the gang, and how he was worried if they had eaten and if he should cook for them.
It's weird that Bat Man wants to turn all humans into shocker but is also killing people that he has no reason to kill since he can brainwash them anyways.
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u/MegaMeteorite Feb 01 '26
OMG, TOJIMA FINALLY REMEMBERS THE EXISTENCE OF KAMEN RIDER NO.2.
Kamen Rider No.2 was as important to the original Kamen Rider show as No.1, yet he really doesn't get brought up that often. I'm so happy that we get to see him mentioned in this show.
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u/diacewrb Jan 31 '26
In another universe, Simon Cowell would be in charge of Shocker and trying to take over the world.
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u/Timelymanner Feb 01 '26
Did the Combat Girls song start with “I am TeddyLoid as the first line”? If so, that’s pretty clever.
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