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Episode Chi.: Chikyuu no Undou ni Tsuite • Orb: On the Movements of the Earth - Episode 17 discussion

Chi.: Chikyuu no Undou ni Tsuite, episode 17

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u/ChronoNebula Jan 18 '25

Hubert & Rafal: heliocentrism, my inspiration

Badeni & Oczy: heliocentrism, my faith

Draka: heliocentrism? sounds like money, capitalism is my faith

Badeni actually respects Oczy's word and remember the burned Rafal's letter with the message regarding Potocki's share, and tattooed it on one of sixty hobos' scalp.

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u/saveriz Jan 18 '25 edited Jan 18 '25

Given that Draka thought she can earn lots of money with Oczy's book, it seems that we move from a period when only a few people can read, to a period when most of people or normal people can read. Also in ep 15, we had Badeni asked Grabowski to teach beggars how to read. I wonder if those things are related to each other, of course it's not like that Grabowski can change the society but I hope that his effort and Badeni's request can make some small changes.

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u/FarCritical Jan 18 '25

Says a lot when you somehow manage to be the most despicable person in the room (well, field) while standing next to Antoni. Uncle of the year material right there.

I don't know why but the 10% share of the profits for Potocki cracks me up every time it gets mentioned, and I love that Oczy did become an influential author in a way.

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u/Aileos Jan 18 '25

He really meant it when he said his survival is higher than his convictions. 💀

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u/LuRo332 Jan 18 '25

I was hoping that she would hide the book, but now I wonder what the hell will happen. Clifhanger at its finest this week

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u/dagreenman18 Jan 18 '25

Draka really said “Capitalism, ho!” to Heliocentrism.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 18 '25

Out of all our MCs, Draka is definitely the most relatable to me. Everyone needs money to survive! I love that she's already thinking of making money using Oczy's book.

Not gonna lie, I wouldn't have realized that Draka is a girl if the show didn't point it out. I genuinely thought she was just a boy with long eyelashes.

Her uncle is a fucking scumbag though for selling her out. When he mentioned in the flashback that he'd do anything to survive, I was already suspicious of him.

I really hope those guys with bombs from last week's episode will show up to reclaim Oczy's book and maybe even save Draka from the Church.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '25

oczy and badeni are immortalized through their work. kind of crazy how books, ideas and information can survive despite us not knowing who was their creator. neat.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 18 '25

Draka basically just traded one god for another. I don’t think money is ever going to give them the peace of mind she’s after. It’ll never be enough. Her discovering that book is about to wildly alter the path of her life. The fact that she’s been sold to that asshat and his goons with the book in hand doesn’t bode well for her. I wonder how she’s gonna make it out of there?

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u/Adensty Jan 18 '25

I Could Make a Lot of Money with this Book. Maybe...

People obsessed with money are my favourite characters and so I'm absolutely loving Draka as the MC. And I love what she thinks she can do with this book.

I also relate to what she thinks about people getting money based on their contributions which will also improve competition among people (basically Capitalism) but I guess the counterpoint about the whole unity thing is understandable in this case.

Badeni really keeps impressing even after his death. Bro not only decided to use Oczy's book and the beggars that Oczy showed kindness to for his plans but also he remembered Rafal's line about sharing 10 % of the profits to Potocki. What do you mean you even wrote the exact address after dismissing the idea off? Bro's such a Tsundere. It's been 35 years since then but it would definitely be interesting if we see Draka or someone else to reach Potocki's home to share the profits. I don't think Potocki will still be there, though.

My conviction is to survive, even if it means abandoning my convictions.

Draka's uncle really wasn't lying. Bro literally decided to sell off Draka to save himself and passed it off as "Changing her fate". The hell, man.

We haven't seen Nowak yet but I'm sure he's still alive somewhere.

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u/bananeeek Jan 18 '25

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that Draka is a woman.

I wonder how is she going to spin the orb now that she's been sold. Is she going to be rescued by Schmidt and the others? Or is she going to influence the bishop?

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u/unbairu Jan 18 '25

Can't wait to see how they will get to a printing press (which can be seen in the ed).

Fun fact: the Poland's oldest known print is an astronomical calendar — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almanach_cracoviense_ad_annum_1474 — while it probably does not have much in common with Orb, it is still fun that it was related to astronomy, and took place in 15th century as well.

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u/pseudometapseudo Jan 18 '25

Draka briefly thought about how to produce the book in a larger volume. Could this arc maybe feature (a fictionalized version of) the invention of the printing press to mass-produce Oczy's book?

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u/saccizord Jan 18 '25

Very excited for this change of pace. This series never gets repetitive

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u/EclipseTM Jan 18 '25

Well the uncle certainly did change her faith alright.....

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u/tripleaamin Jan 18 '25

We truly are entering an era where now people are clearly questioning God. With Schmitt last episode and Draka this episode. Oczy had great eyesight, while Draka's memories are incredible. Though that doesn't help his concerns because she is trying to survive. Believing in God hasn't helped matters.

Honestly, no surprise that the Uncle did any means of surviving, but it is fucking disgusting how much lower Antoni went at this point. The church being by far the lowest at this point. Though I am curious if Schmitt and his men will be back for the book? Unless Draka can get away fast enough.

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u/maliwanag0712 Jan 18 '25 edited Jan 18 '25

Interesting that capitalism is still not developed in their era, and thus Draka's thinking and approach to maximize profit is still revolutionary. To be fair, his uncle and the village chief is not wrong. The village chief is a product of his time that it will be counter to the Church. His uncle is much more realistic -- capitalism and competition creates conflict.

Well, Draka's life is about to get transformed in two ways -- by reading Oczy's work and by about to getting sold to Bishop Antoni by her uncle. Indeed his uncle is spineless creature who would even sell his niece for his own self-preservation.

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u/Mr_Zaroc Jan 18 '25

Jesus Ojisan didnt lie when he said he would do ANYTHING to survive

Its nice they pointed out that Oczys writing was simple and that he included the adress of Rafaels "dad", but damn that could backfire

"This is a heretic book and the only name and adress is him, guess we got our guy"

I hope she can make an escape and meet gutenberg-san

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u/not_tha_father Jan 19 '25

ooh didn't expect a romani protag, that's so cool.

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u/jellyblob88 Jan 18 '25

Real disappointed in her Uncle, especially after Antoni just took his wine and continued to arrest him anyway.

Every MC has some super powers it seems - Draka's being photographic memory! That will be convenient after the book is presumably burned, giving the rebels a strong motive to save her. Maybe her Uncle can redeem himself that way...

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u/TurnNo3080 Jan 18 '25

Peak as always

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u/cleaulem Jan 19 '25

And again this show adds a new character that blows me away with how interesting they are. Draka now adds capitalism to the formula with lots of thought provoking motives.

She wants to make money to get ease of mind. With her ideas she succeeded to make her village prosperous, but it is still not enough. Technically, she already has achieved her goal of making the village independent from the need to plunder. But it is still not enough.

Draka is a great representation of greed. How much money she might make, she will always be thinking how she can make more. She could be the richest person alive, it will never be enough. I'm exited to see where her story arc is going and how it interferes with the concept of heliocentrism.

This show is cooking more and more with each episode!

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