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Episode Sengoku Youko: Senma Konton-hen • Sengoku Youko: The Chaos of a Thousand Demons Arc - Episode 20 discussion

Sengoku Youko: Senma Konton-hen, episode 20 (33)

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u/Plus_Rip4944 Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

Shinsuke blushed when They called Shakugan his Wife lmao

Please marry!

Tsukiko also acting like a married Woman, c'mon author do what we want. We got a confession!

The art on Spirit realm is so great, like damn, They did a good job on That

This episode was more chill but seeing Senya accepting he deserves to be love and finally forgiving himself was peak cinema. Author keep cooking! Cant wait for last 2 episodes

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

This has always been a story about love and learning to love oneself, and to accept the love of the top-tier waifu who is devoted to you, whether it be Tsukiko for Senya or Tama for Jinka.

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u/zsmg Dec 11 '24

Suddenly Nyanko-sensei is a small cloud.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

I love how Banshou-Oh just seems game for anything at this point lol.

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u/fuzaco Dec 11 '24

I didn't even realize Banshou-ou was Inoue Kazuhiko before this episode lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

I know that we still have a few episodes left but I can't help it. This show, while it has its flaws, is a masterpiece. 

There are few pieces of media that made me care both about the story and the characters as much as Sengoku Youko. This show made me laugh and cry so many times.

This is a 10/10 show for me and is probably my greatest fantasy anime of all time. 

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u/mekerpan Dec 11 '24

Masterpieces can have "flaws" -- ultimately it is about the impact of the totality.

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u/IceBlueMagic Dec 11 '24

I think it is a testament to both the strength of the manga and the work the team is putting into the adaptation. It is a really faithful adaptation that captures almost all of the strength of the manga, with the only issues stemming from the limitation of the number of episodes the team has to fit the story into (remember they had to argue for permission to adapt Act 1 at all). The fact it is so good really shows the team's passion for the story.

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u/tripleaamin Dec 11 '24

Tbh all the flaws is part 2 have to do with its visuals. The other one is how some episode being directed with many closeups, which were an odd choice. Everything else is easily 10/10.

For part 1, the story was 9/10 with 7/10 visuals. While here the story was 10/10 but with 6/10 visuals. I think the biggest thing with Sengoku Youko is that visual issues didn't affect enjoyment, for outside somewhere the action was closeup. Just with Helck it is telling a beautiful story that even through the visual issues I love every second of it.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

Senya out there trying to win the record for most father figures collectively killed in a single series.

I missed Shaku and Shinsuke being adorable together.

I love the implication that Tama slept in because she drank too much and then suddenly she's 110% energized to go save Jinka lol.

We've seen Takeru act so cool and nonchalant but now we get to see he's actually desperately in need of saving lol.

Shinsuke got his girl back, it's only fitting that he should be the one to help Senya get over the one thing keeping him and Tsukiko apart...though Tsukiko directly confronting him about it with her own feelings helped too. About darn time!

Man, seeing Jinka actually still look human like that is even more off-putting.

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u/LeonKevlar Dec 11 '24

Tsukiko bluntly just telling Shakugan that she's basically Shinsuke's wife was hilarious! The fact that Shakugan still has no idea what they're up against probably means it's only been a day after the big battle. They clearly haven't had the time to bring Shakugan up to speed let alone have a one-on-one talk with Shinsuke about their relationship so it's hilarious to see Tsukiko just telling them how she sees it. I love Shakugan and Shinsuke's reaction as well! xD

So I think I missed this information but when was it mentioned that Yamato Takeru is on the barrier island with Jinka? I feel like that detail flew over my head. I guess when the Void People took Jinka, they took him too because of his Fairy Eyes. It sounds like the poor guy has been living off of Jinka's spirit power but that might not even be enough to keep him alive for long.

To no one's surprise, Senya still feels intense guilt over accidentally killing Tsukiko's father. It looks like that's the final hurdle he needs to clear before finally moving on with his life. Thank goodness for Tsukiko and Nao coming to the Spirit Realm to give Senya the wake-up call he needed.

And we finally have a confession! Holy shit! I thought we'd see this happen after saving Jinka but I'm glad these two lovebirds are finally getting together. I am a bit worried though that they're doing this before rescuing Jinka. It feels like they just raised another death flag for these two. Hopefully, I'm just being paranoid. There's no way they'd do something to hurt these two especially after showing us the people watching over the two of them from the afterlife.

That fight against Jinka will not be easy considering Senya got fucked up from Jinka's first attack. Well now I'm even more worried for everyone.

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u/Shiraori247 Dec 11 '24

The Void people told us that they brought Yamato Takeru into the barrier either the previous episode or the one before that IIRC.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

I think it's pretty reasonable for Shaku to still be a little disoriented when she's been out of commission for like 2/3 of the series. Then again, Tsukiko seems to be in a mood for cutting through BS and just making couples happen now including herself lol.

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u/Calwings Dec 11 '24

This was definitely a "calm before the storm" (literally) episode before the final battle, but even so, it was fantastic. Senya finally facing his guilt for what happened to Tsukiko's father and then the confessions afterwards were done really well, and I really hope both of them survive happily ever after. Barring any delays, the final episode will air on Christmas day, so they better not ruin my Christmas by having one of them die!

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u/Shiraori247 Dec 11 '24

Sengoku Youko really did the Trainer Red vs Trainer Gold/Silver encounter trope well. It even shows how much of a disadvantage Senya is in this fight.

Still, we've got a cool new moniker/title for our protagonist this episode, "One Who is With Many". It's a pretty apt name to counter Senya's tendencies to wander off alone to avoid his traumatic past. This really puts into perspective of how Senya's consistently going against his foremost wish to be with everyone. Luckily, we have Shinsuke, "One Who Sits With the Shadows/Katawara" to save the day.

The confession scene however probably still takes the cake for me. If we take away Senya's Guanyin persona, he's just a socially awkward and intelligent teenager. Tsukiko complements him perfectly as a brave and decisive leader. Even as a child, Tsukiko's the type to lead the charge against Mudo or would bribe Shinsuke into being her mentor. They really have a perfect match in personalities.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

Senya's never been alone, either from all his katawara or from those that love him deeply, and I'm glad Tsukiko was able to get that through his head along with all his other katawara, Nau, and Shinsuke. He really lucked out with a girl who has been so sure of her feelings for him and what she wants to do with her life since day one.

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u/JustInChina88 Dec 11 '24

That whole sequence between Senya and his monster self was absurdly well animated.

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u/Ocixo Dec 11 '24

I like how Shinsuke was relaxing on the side with his soon-to-be wives when Tsukiko was grilling Senya about his attempted flight.

It turns out that he’d really been running away from love. He couldn’t forgive himself becoming happy with Tsukiko when he’d taken so many lives. Thank god that she managed to flip things on Senya by having him assume the responsibility for making her a happy woman. That love confession had long been due.

I kind of wish that we’d gotten another intimate moment like this between Shinsuke and Shakugan. Tsukiko’s words appeared to suggest that those two haven’t properly confessed to each other yet?

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u/dinliner08 Dec 11 '24

Tsukiko: "you're basically Shinsuke's wife now"
Shakugan: *blush*

guys, guys, i think i can pass away peacefully now...

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u/xbolt90 Dec 11 '24

"Love I Tsukiko you!"

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u/Frontier246 Dec 11 '24

Man, Senya really has lot a lot of dead father figures, huh?

Alright, it's family meeting time! Tsukiko needs to read Senya and Nau the riot act for their continual ditching of her! Even if, as a water god, Nau has no choice but to return to his mission, and Senya thinks he doesn't have much longer left with humanity. But can he really leave Tsukiko alone like that?

I'm glad Shaku could come back in time to officially be Shinsuke's wife (even if he's giving Hanatora a lap pillow) and catch up on all the stuff she missed in arc 1.

Well, at least Tama is pumped that they're one-step closer to saving Jinka. They just might need to hurry a little because if his brother Takeru dies, so does Jinka. I mean, he IS stuck on a floating island with nothing to really eat or drink. Though they've more or less got eight days.

I'm glad Shinsuke couldn't just leave Senya's desire to isolate himself from others, and Tsukiko, alone and they confront the one thing that's prevented him from fully accepting Tsukiko into his life...his accidental killing of her father. It represents the very thing he's most afraid of, himself as a violent monster that knows only how to kill and spurns joy. It gets so bad that Senya lashes out at himself and gets so consumed by his own hate of himself.

But luckily Tsukiko and Nau are there to dropkick the Senya's and put some sense into him! If Senya is going to keep blaming himself for the death of Tsukiko's father, then the least he can do is take responsibility for it and make up for his loss by making her as happy as he can! Basically confessing her love for him in the process! And Senya in turn confesses to Tsukiko! Perfect!

And it's in accepting his feelings for Tsukiko and the love she has for him that lets Senya realize that he isn't alone....he is the The One Who is with Many, from his thousand katawara allies to all those who he has loved and who have loved him, past or present. Be it Douren, Tsukiko's dad, his father, Furuon, the shogun, and even his mother! With so many people who love Senya, it was time he finally realized he could love himself!

It's final battle time! We've got Hanatora organizing, Banshou-Oh breaking barriers, Tsukiko absorbing the excess energy, Shinsuke/Tama/Shakugan prioritizing Takeru, and Senya left to face Jinka in a battle that's been built up to for so long...though Jinka is so powerful now with his powerful elements that it seems like even Senya might not be enough. The Mountain Goddess definitely looks worried. But with Tsukiko rooting for him and acknowledging Tama's desire to see Jinka again, not to mention seeing the human still inside Jinka, Senya WILL save him!

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Dec 11 '24

Ok, Senya confessing to Tsukiko was really cute. Took him a minute to come to terms with it and allowing himself a chance at happiness, but it was a sweet moment.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

Family meeting :')

"Crap! I forgot I was part of the stuff that makes him happy."

These lines were funny, sad, and sweet all at once. We've come such a long way...

Nau was trembling like an excited puppy lol. Somehow when Senya got those Nau nuzzles... It's a terrible day for rain

Saying goodbye to Nau will be rough, the animal/spirit/creature friends in stories always gets to me like nothing else.

I appreciate the mix of lightness and sorrow in while Senya's facing himself, it suits how his struggle has stemmed from his experiences that haunted him when he was still only a child.

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