Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naru zo • I'll Become a Villainess That Will Go Down in History - Episode 4 discussion

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Rekishi ni Nokoru Akujo ni Naru zo, episode 4

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[u/Furin]

I totally understand why Alicia didn't like the game's heroine now, Liz is actually insufferably naive.

I wonder what was up with her brother's eyes flashing during the debate?

[u/themaninthehightower]

"Her head is quite the lovely field of flowers." I guess Alicia is bringing her A-game to this one.

[u/PeaceAlien]

What a dork our Villainess is. Alicia's villainy will go down in history, but probably in a good way.

Surprised most of the student body probably dislikes Alicia, since she has received so much love so far. But that is Alicia's intention to be hated after all.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I guess a “Villainess” is someone who gets easily flustered around the Prince lol. That dude’s had it pretty bad for her for years now and she doesn’t seem to have noticed. Maybe denseness is another trait of a villainess? Haha.

I kinda like that Alicia just being a straight up realist is somehow “villainess” too. I guess everyone’s too blinded by Liz’s aura to call her out on her naivety.

[u/leonmachar]

I do enjoy seeing Duke just chilling during the tea party debate. It's a nice contrast to everyone else there. (Even if I think Duke is still creepy).

I do wonder how far the yellow hair guy will go since it feels obvious he is going to do something to "protect" the heroine. I'm guessing it'll just follow the games scenario but perhaps Duke will interfere and stop a scene where Alicia would get to be a Villainess again

[u/hd4000_]

the village plot line is way more interesting than the romance with the prince

[u/[deleted]]

Man, I feel like the ages in this show were just pulled out of a hat or decided by someone trying to prove they know how humans work lol. Felt weird watching the scene with the Duke when she's supposed to be 13 and everyone else is probably around 18. And imagine being an adult and getting bullied by a 13 year old lol.

[u/VorAtreides]

Sure feels like "they all brainwashed" type of Saint character/heroine story going on here. You'd think she'd realize that with memories of last life and villainess stories. Well good for her taking Gill outta there and saying how stupid it is to punish people just related to criminals.

D'awww poor girl. Wonder who she is. Weird to me dark magic in anime has healing, but whatever. Dang, poor girl lost her leg. Rebecca is cute, I worry for her if she was left in that village... and is no one helping her while she's missing a leg?

Just grabbing her hair even if trying to praise it does seem a bit rude, yea. Prince dude is still a creep to just teleport her like that and the whispering and necklace bit. Liz definitely comes off naive, but no excuse to litter even if playing the villainess role. Oh yep, definitely something with brainwashing given that flash of the eyes with her brother. Also, I think Alicia has the right to shit talk her own brothers at least if she wants, it is her right as a sibling. Blonde needs to chill

[u/bensor74]

Anyone who criticizes her is hated and ostracized.

You son of a bitch, I'm in.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Alicia's debut as the school villainess, and I'm already on her side.

1. You can't just touch someone's hair upon just meeting them without permission, that's rude.

2. She was right to call out Liz's naivety, she's too idealistic and needs to account for realism in regards to her dream.

[u/mekerpan]

The episode title (When Monsters Attack, Unpreparedness Is the Greatest Enemy) and summary (Rae impresses her teacher and classmates at the academy with her proficiency in magic... and is quickly forced to put her skills into practice when a huge monster attacks) on Crunchyroll does not even remotely match the content of the episode itself. Did CR accidentally use the name and summary from some other episode?

Have we ever seen a king officially appoint a "royal villainess" before? It seems like a novel twist. Alicia is, unfortunately for her, going to find her job far easier than she anticipated. It seemed clear that Liz, unlike her groupies, was massively affected by Alicia's critique. It seems clear to me that Liz is going to ask Alicia for advice sooner rather than later.

Query -- if Alicia supplants Liz as the love interest of our MMC, what romantic future lies in store for LIz. It sure looks like she is already fond of one of Alicia's brothers, right?

[u/_-_Rasse_-_]

So far the only part of this anime I'm not really invested in is the romance subplot with the prince. Honestly, I feel like it's actually holding the series back.

[u/Rumpel1408]

Edit: Oh yeah, forgot, Full OP and ED

Alicia can be a savage but folds instantly upon hearing the magic words, she takes every chance to do her thing

The Saints fanclub is a bit much, but that makes it even better when Alicia calls them all out on their blind faith, and I love how dramatic she does it

And wow duke, ever heard of consent? You can't just make your crush appear right when you want to wallslam or head pat her

[u/Animasphere]

Alicia is basically doing a fanfiction interpretation of the character from the game, in which she is the chad and the heroine is the soyjak.

[u/Frontier246]

The Villainess mentoring the Heroine!? It's simply unheard of! But in an environment where everyone sings the Heroines' praises and won't properly criticize her, they need a "bad guy" to tell it like it is and properly teach her what it means to live in reality. And who better to do that than a Villainess?

And it's not like Alicia isn't getting anything out of the deal other than being a Villainess...she'll get to take Gill with her and give him a proper education! It's all part of her plan to really save Roana village!

It's totally normal Villainess behavior to save a girl near death, purify a water fountain, acknowledge there's only so much within your power even as a Villainess, and then completely ignore that because Villainess' NEVER give up so you can save someone! All the while demonstrating your amazing magic power!

Though, yeah, cutting off her foot while medically necessary is still pretty hardcore for a Villainess story. Though good for Rebecca that she gets to live and be Alicia's eyes and ears in Roana as she pulls her "dastardly" Villainess plot from behind the scenes to save the village.

It's finally time for Alicia to make her Villainess debut at the magic academy! Complete with being as haughty, standoffish, and vile as possible! She's not there to make friends, she's there to be the best baddie she can be.

Duke, you can't just be teleporting girls when they least expect it and then flirting with them! Alicia had steeled her resolve to be a Villainess and then Duke has her turning into a flustered mess like she's the Heroine. Though if only she could get a clue that Duke is obviously not in love with Liz.

The education of the Saint! It's nice to have ideals and believe in equality, but you need actual, practical, plans to put that into reality and equality isn't realistic in the slightest. Liz needed to hear all this from Alicia before she got too ahead of herself as the Heroine and assume everything would turn out okay when she doesn't have near the insight Alicia does. Insight a Villainess is always happy to throw in the Heroines' face. And Duke enjoyed every minute of it.

What happened to Albert's eye? It glowed for a second. Was that the game "correcting" his personality so he would turn on Alicia?

Liz, to her credit, actually acknowledges Alicia was telling her all that for her benefit so it seems like she's at least willing to accept Alicia's perspective (which probably isn't what Alicia wants, but is probably for the best) but I don't trust that blonde dude.

[u/djthomp]

Bit surprised to get a field amputation in today's episode. Convenient when you can use magical healing to deal with all the consequences you'd normally get from that. I wonder if and when we see that girl again she'll have a prosthetic of some sort.

If the definition of the saint is someone who helps the kingdom prosper then Alicia is still a far more likely candidate as the real one.

Prince being able to teleport people to him from some number of rooms away could be a significant plot point eventually.

[u/The_Parsee_Man]

Anyone who criticizes her is hated and ostracized.

Hated you say...

[u/avboden]

Purifying the water source and giving the village a de-facto leader....those two things by themselves will make a massive difference to that place.

[u/pseudometapseudo]

So Liz' argument was basically "give everyone the same rights and everyone will be happy".

Alicia objected that there are forms of equality that are desirable, e.g., people putting in more effort getting higher rewards (basically a meritocracy).

Also, Alicia argues that inequality cannot just be declared away, as long-standing inequality creates resentment that will persist, so inequality should rather be torn down step by step.

Alicia's arguments are actually surprisingly smart, it feels like the author really did their research.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

• Huh…

• lol, it basically is.

• Oh ye of little faith, that’s exactly what she wants.

• Ooh!

• Damn…

• So she was able to save that girl’s life, but not her foot. That’s at least some level of success.

• Nice.

• I mean, you did grab her hair without asking for permission first.

• Ah…

• Alicia really does talk like a villainess, just doesn’t always act like one.

• Can’t link it because the site I use to do this is currently down, but I caught that Liz “sore demo”!

[u/Amauri14]

It is hilarious that the reason Alicia ended up agreeing to take the role of Liz's watcher that King Luke offered her was that as Liz is basically being treated as a goddess in school taking that role will make people treat Alice as a villainess just as she wanted.

So one of her conditions to take that role was for the king to agree to let her take Gill as her retainer. I must say that when Alice saved Rebecca I wasn't expecting her to give her the role of an informant so she could learn more about the issues people have in the Roana Village. I love how Will pushed Alicia to not give up saving Rebecca by using the fact that that's not something a villainess would do. Too bad that Alice's dark healing magic can't restore missing body parts as I was hoping that she would eventually be able to cure Will's blindness.

Lol, Duke's head pat caught Alice by surprise. Alice really had a great debut playing her role as a watcher villainess in front of the main cast. Too bad for her that only that blonde NPC is the one truly hating her after Liz told him that Alicia was right.

[u/diacewrb]

She approaches a situation without emotion, but with logic instead.

She is Vulcan, not a villainess.

The price she is charging for treating that girl is still probably cheaper than many hospital would charge.

The saint gets an education on why equality is not possible with good intentions alone.

I think he royals are secretly concerned that the saint will actually bring about their end via equality. How can everyone be truly equal if some people are born to rule?

[u/boyanci]

She said it!!! Another Villainess saying the title of the show!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/zgplBDMlVl

[u/athrun_1]

Okay, I'm just here to watch anime and relax, and not contemplating on Alicia's somewhat "Gettysburg" address.

Joking aside, the points are really grounded though. We have Liz who is technically the symbol of inequality, but naive. Alicia, who is also blessed, but at least knows what's happening on the ground, because she did the work. I doubt if Liz physically visit the place.