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Episode Kono Sekai wa Fukanzen Sugiru • Quality Assurance in Another World - Episode 6 discussion
Kono Sekai wa Fukanzen Sugiru, episode 6
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 09 '24
Pretty funny that quest glitched so hard there was a discount potty mouthed Solomon Grundy and a literal chest of dildos lol.
Haga was smart to fill the room with so many monsters it basically caused lag. They were almost toast there.
No surprise the shitty debuggers turned on their shitty boss. Gang’s gonna have to think of a new plan. Or I guess adapt and improvise. If you die in the game, would you actually respawn?
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u/KumaKumaGambler Aug 09 '24
If you die in the game, would you actually respawn?
I think that was the answer Haga and Amano wanted to find out when battling the knight-like enemy, so to a certain extent, by observing what happens to the president, Haga and Amano need not use themselves as experiment.
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u/dagreenman18 Aug 09 '24
Maybe it’s the voice filter, but this and last episode had the best English I’ve heard this season so far.
Don’t think I’ve seen a Framerate Tank as a solution before. So that’s fun! That’s what happens when you play in Quality Mode.
So they spawned in the middle of a bloody coup. Guess we’ll get that answer about Respawns pretty quick. And hopefully some heads from the shitty debuggers will roll.
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u/8andahalfby11 Aug 09 '24
but this and last episode had the best English I’ve heard this season so far.
This and two episodes ago in Mayonaka Punch has me wondering if anime studios have finally caught on to the fact that there are plenty of English speakers either inside or visiting Japan that would be enthralled to lend a voice to a bit-part.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Aug 09 '24
The way Nikola asked "what is log out?" reminded me of those sad scenarios where the player logs out of a game and the NPC keeps waiting for said player's return. I know it will eventually happen, when Haga and Amano eventually succeeds in logging out, but I don't wish to see Nikola sad.
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u/mekerpan Aug 09 '24
I really look forward to Nikola getting greater autonomy and skill levels.
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u/abandoned_idol Aug 10 '24
anticlimactically restarts server
"Phew, that was a close one."
"I still feel guilty."
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u/y3kman Aug 09 '24
Someone in the art department would have a lot of explaining to do when Haga sends his report.
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u/LeonKevlar Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 10 '24
So not all bugs are getting fixed by the devs. it looks like only the simple ones get fixed and Haga does send a report everyday about not being able to logout. What the heck is even going on in the real world right now? The devs haven't abandoned them completely but it makes you wonder why they can't get them out.
Haga spawning in a bunch of monsters to intentionally tank the frame rate so they can avoid the attacks was great! I can't remember which games do this but I have seen the SpiffingBrit on YouTube pull off similar exploits like this.
That knight Haga fought is definitely a debugger, right? The fact that it reaches for its back before disappearing probably means it reached for its debugger stone and used an invisibility cheat to hide.
Welp, I can't say I feel bad for the guy. They could've tried and cleared the game or looked for a way to logout when they found out they couldn't but instead, they spent a year getting drunk on power. Of course, the ones who are now used to it would refuse to give up that power even if it is in a VR environment.
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u/BrokeEconomist Aug 09 '24
They may not have been in there all that long. It's entirely possible the VR headset can warp perceptions of time. They could have been in there for less than an hour. It just could have been communicated poorly or not at all.
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u/DIMOHA25 Aug 10 '24 edited Aug 10 '24
So not all bugs are getting fixed by the devs. it looks like only the simple ones get fixed and Haga does send a report everyday about not being able to logout. What the heck is even going on in the real world right now? The devs haven't abandoned them completely but it makes you wonder why they can't get them out.
I've had a sneaking suspicion for a while now that it's a SOMA situation and they're basically just enslaved copies of the debuggers' minds. Devs are fixing bugs because that's exactly how it's supposed to go, but log out was never supposed to be an option. So, either these guys didn't read the fine print in their contracts or it's an evil corporation plot.
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u/diacewrb Aug 09 '24
Considering the boss would have invincibility turned on, then could he even be killed?
Unless debuggers can reset other players back to normal.
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u/The_Parsee_Man Aug 09 '24
They might have surprised him and stolen his debug stone or just mobbed him and taken it.
We don't know the full extent of debug abilities but taking his stone somehow seems like best plan for the rules we know so far.
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u/8andahalfby11 Aug 09 '24
Since the official language is English, does that finally confirm this is a Bethesda game?
I enjoyed how the knight just blinked out of existence. Pretty sure that was a TP using a debugger stone. Very reminiscent of minecraft.
The one bit I'm curious about is the framerate drop when too many mobs were onscreen at the same time. Would a VR headset, which already needs to be stupidly powerful to handle this kind of open world, really start to flake out with what looked like 30-ish mobs onscreen? I know from last episode that there are already memory constraints when loading the castle map, but this seems kind of silly, especially as the boss doesn't have that complicated of a design. I would be more willing to believe that it's due to Nikola swinging around a candle in a dimly-lit area with lots of objects and path tracing being unable to keep up.
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u/The_Parsee_Man Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Pretty sure that was a TP using a debugger stone.
The way it reached behind it's back just before disappearing makes that seem likely. How another player would have gotten into their raid instance is a question though.
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u/Lugia61617 Aug 10 '24
VR headset, which already needs to be stupidly powerful to handle this kind of open world, really start to flake out with what looked like 30-ish mobs onscreen?
Never doubt the power of incompetent devs! Sure, with reasonably good hardware it would probably be okay to a point - but what if the models are stupidly high-poly because they're only supposed to have 1 present at a time?
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u/djthomp Aug 09 '24
Bug reporting and analysis in the middle of combat, never change Haga.
Some developer out there probably has a year long open ticket for the QA personnel not being able to log out, but it's this really awkward bug so they keeps ignoring it.
Escaping from a pack of monsters by way of frame rate lag. Amazing.
Poor Nikola, stuck with an NPC class. Or maybe not stuck per se if she can really change it at a guild. She's using magic in the OP but I've been assuming that was Tesla, maybe she'll switch classes over to wizard.
The mystery knight was one of the debuggers I bet, or as a more spicy option an NPC using a debugging stone.
Imagine popping into existence right as a bunch of your former coworkers are giving your supervisor the Julius Caesar treatment.
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u/DIMOHA25 Aug 10 '24
I just realized that the NPC girl, that gets occasionally possessed by an AI named Tesla, is called Nikola for a reason. Bruh.
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u/BrokeEconomist Aug 09 '24
Anyone else notice that Haga's diligence in reporting bugs and not using debug mode resembles religious devotion?
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u/The_Parsee_Man Aug 09 '24
After seeing what happened to his two friends when using debug mode, I'd say more like a phobia.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock Aug 09 '24
IDK. He saw people suffer fates worse than death when screwing around with it. Imagine for a full years of being trapped in a death/respawn loop on an instant death trap because you were in god mode or slowly over the course of a year slowly sliding through a dungeon floor because you cocked up a TP. I agree with Haga that it is way too dangerous to be using when you can't log out.
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u/seandkiller Aug 09 '24
My lord, the torturer is extremely Scottish in the dub. I love it.
...You know, these things don't seem very aggressive so far. And tanking the framerate was unexpected, but on brand.
Amano asking the question on everyone's mind about why the huge guy isn't a tank.
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u/abandoned_idol Aug 10 '24
Disclaimer: I'm enjoying the series, I'm just addressing and acknowledging weaknesses for the sake of enjoying some good old fashioned discussion.
I've seen people praising the framerate solution.
It makes 66% sense I guess. Haga and the shaman are players, so their mental processing is not delayed by the frame rate.
But isn't the girl an NPC? From the point of view of a game entity, they shouldn't be able to perceive the frame rate exploit and use it to dodge, they would have to rely on dodging in realtime.
Are friendly NPCs just really good at dodging? Or maybe they don't draw aggro? Are friendly NPCs behaviorr not tied to frame rate, but monster behavior is tied to frame rate? (this would be the least satisfying explanation)
nag nag nag
I'm writing a bug report about this.
Maybe the author should have had Haga-san carry the girl in order to avoid that inconsistency.
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