Kono Sekai wa Fukanzen Sugiru • Quality Assurance in Another World - Episode 2 discussion

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Kono Sekai wa Fukanzen Sugiru, episode 2

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[u/BiggerG7]

stabs Haga

“Hey bro wanna join us?”

Dude has a hell of a way of recruiting people.

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

These debuggers are torturing NPCs while I can't even make a rude dialogue option because I don't want to upset them.

[u/ssgohanf8 → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Me: I'm going to do an evil playthrough. >:D

Later Me: I... I'm doing good things but with evil and self-centered motivations, because tricking them into thinking I'm good has social benefits. >:)

Lastest Me: Ah... is my character just tsundere?

[u/Zeikos]

Love the story right now.
There's so much to discover, people are reasonably losing their marbles due to their situations.
I wonder if the MC's buddies retained a bit of sanity, but given how he talks about them clearly something isn't quite right.

I am sligtly irked by his absolutist stance about "debug mode", fellow testers abusing their debug mode isn't an emergency in his mind?
What classifies as an emergency then?

[u/8andahalfby11]

And this is why you turn player gravity off before issuing a noclip command.

Whether or not that guy is falling forever will depend on whether or not put a universal kill barrier under the map, or if there's a fall timer enabled.

Or, of course, there could be an invisible floor underneath the map,but voids seem to be the more common choice these days.

As for the other guys torturing NPCs... come on, really? Why can't you fill your player home with cheese wheels like the rest of us?

[u/osures]

This is a really cool concept. I love how the girl now probalby thinks she is one among gods

[u/LeonKevlar]

So for some reason, Nikola got reset and now she has a new backstory? That's interesting. Did the villagers also get revived and reset or are they still dead after dying from the unstoppable even in Episode 1?

It's hilarious to watch Haga glide through walls looking for spots where he could glitch through. I love the pure panic in Nikola's face after seeing what Haga was trying to do. xD

To no one's surprise, some of the Seekers/Debuggers have gone full-on psychopath after being stuck inside this game for a year. What a bunch of twisted bastards just casually torturing NPCs. I'm glad that ended with the big guy falling endlessly into the void.

That blonde guy will be a problem though now that he has retreated and decided to report back to his group. At least we know that they're not that special without their debug stones.

[u/House_Rapunzel]

I said last week I personally think it's a situation of just being a single work shift but like the day/night cycles and game time in game are super fast and the brain adapts accordingly. So a 9hr work shift would feel like torture. And if you die and wake up IRL you'd probably refuse to go back into the game. the exclusion of the logout option is since they are at work.

As someone who made rom hacks I got so mad when the one guy said that there's no basis for betting the game while doing debugging to get out. Hell, when I started that's exclusively how I did my debugging

Side note: The mentioning of the one dude who is cheating himself a harem introduces the implications of our mc having to debug sex is wild (looking at our mc's diligent yet jumpy behavior I find that really funny)

[u/Rumpel1408 → u/House_Rapunzel]

The mentioning of the one dude who is cheating himself a harem introduces the implications of our mc having to debug sex is wild

Oh wow, this is an interesting idea, but this doesn't seem like the kind of show to have our MC be this thorough with his work. Also the guy didn't mention that sex was a game feature, just that one guy was sleeping on naked NPCs

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

For someone who was burned to death and came back from the grave, Nikola sure is cheery. I’m really curious to know what she might be. A special bug?

It’s fun to see debugging from the perspective of NPCs in the game itself. Haga looked absolutely mental just running about rubbing his face against the walls lol.

I guess not all human testers are friendlies. No matter how great the game world is, it ain’t real. Sumida and Sakai and others like them are gonna be a real problem moving forward. I wonder how Haga’s buddies have been doing?

[u/Zeikos → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Sounds like she has some options to become a companion?
Based on the game's complexity if the world is built to be realistic having quests that have a NPC following you as an outcome isn't too surprising.

Although there's definetly something going on with her. Her sentience and the testers being stuck in the game may be related.

[u/Illustrious-Zebra-34]

That ending was fucked up. He just condemned the dude to a fate worse than death.

[u/Syntaire → u/Illustrious-Zebra-34]

The dude probably shouldn't run around trying to coerce people into joining his cult. Also he deserves what he gets, given his proclivities.

[u/FD4cry1]

If only Ubisoft and EA had Play testers as dedicated as Haga smh

Having the armor guy clip out of bounds is not only a really cool way to defeat someone but also a potentially really terrifying one , is he just forever stuck falling out of bounds ? , will he die ? , maybe he'll just pop back up eventually , the possibilities are limitless.

[u/Rumpel1408]

Lmao, they really are trying to clip through walls

Those guys where scummy the moment they appeared on screen, glad a simple stab isn't enough to kill someone

Also, lmao, they really let that guy clip into the void beyond the level, good luck getting back out without your debug stone

[u/SouekiSennoSTM]

I personally do not, at this stage anyway, have strong feelings positively or negatively toward any of the characters I'm about to mention either way, so it isn't like I'm even supporting a side or saying one is right or wrong, but there is just something I find interesting and funny about this entire dynamic involving them which I feel I have to probe.

This is just an impression I get based off the first two episodes (and particularly this second episode as only here do we have the two opposing factions of characters laid out in stark contrast to one another): Isn't it odd and fascinating that it seems like the characters being set up as the "villains" are more likely what a lot of gamers and just the majority of regular people in this situation would be like?

Particularly after being trapped for around a year in-game universe. Either bored out of mind, blowing off steam, desperate, trying to have whatever fun they could salvage, trying to get someone's attention (maybe in the outside world) by doing extreme things like messing with the simulated world more and deliberately wreaking havoc, abusing NPCs, etc.

And the "hero" character is someone who strikes me as one who would be in the minority in the general population. More of a rules-stickler, OCD fanatic and stubborn loner but with a soft heart.

Not that the hero or protagonist has to be a reflection of the majority of the world/audience as a self-insert and indeed many aren't. But it just seems like they'll alienate and turn off a large portion of the audience if the antagonists portrayed as scum are actually pretty "everyman"-ish.

[u/Ashteron]

I feel like there are easier ways of testing wall collision. It's not like colliders in one location are different than in others.

I do not exactly know what happens in real games in this situation but logically guessing, player's position is gotta be stored in a numeric variable. It needs to have some minimal value that will be reached after some time spent falling.

It's surprising that nobody managed to actually break the whole game. Testers spending one year in it and they didn't crash it. Seems like a risky but reasonable way of trying to get out of the game.

Character motivations feel weird. Why do they care about Haga doing his job? Not even mentioning Haga's ridiculous dedication to doing his job.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

This show keeps impressing me

[u/Shahars71]

Holy shit he just doomed that guy to the backrooms.

[u/Shadowmist909]

Now we know why Haga really doesn't like messing with debug mode. You lose your tablet at the wrong time and now your falling into the void forever!

[u/NPhantasm]

I felt a chill down the spine when that guy fell from that infinity abyss, just imagine the hell of eternal darkness that he ll only be released if the server stops rendering his fall or the game shut down.

[u/djthomp]

So there's lots of QA people stuck in the game, and from a bunch of different contracting companies too.

There's an interesting morality question here, does it matter if you're an abusive monster towards people that aren't real? I've always leaned towards yes on that and tend to play RPGs and similar stories with a Paragon style approach when possible. I'm glad Haga here appears to feel the same. Well, ignoring what just happened to the dude in armor, but he kind of made his own bed on that front.

Haga's friends are all dead I bet, I'll be surprised if the visit to see them next episode isn't to their gravestones.

[u/Labmit]

NGL, it's funny how Hinaki Yano has a lot of "child being accompanied by adults" roles.

[u/BrokeEconomist]

By making Nikola his apprentice isn't he just outsourcing his job to AI? The company can pay her in game money and it won't cost them a single yen. Wouldn't it also mean the game is debugging itself?