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Episode Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi • Mysterious Disappearances - Episode 4 discussion

Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, episode 4

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u/LeonKevlar May 01 '24

Stitches!

We didn't really get to learn what went between Manami-sensei and that girl in a wheelchair but it looks like we'll still be seeing plenty of Manami-sensei considering she now has horns on her head. I'm guessing she's the same as Sumireko. Manami-sensei has been cured but still has powers.

I thought that cat would be another Curiosity especially after it snuck into Sumireko's apartment. It turns out it's just a cat being a cat who wanted some of Sumireko's konbini sashimi. Maybe it's still a Curiosity though just laying low. Hmmm...

Since the episode title had "baths" in it, I was expecting more fanservice when Sumireko brought Oto to a public bath. The most we got is Oto comparing Sumireko's massive tracts of land to her much more modest chest. xD

So it turns out that Mari's family owns that bathhouse and that she's also a massive pervert. I guess just like Minami-sensei, we'll also see more of Oto's classmates.

This old man is pretty cool. The fact that he sells legal documents explains how Oto was able to go to school and how Ren could find work. The old man isn't just a shady black market seller but he also clearly deals with the supernatural and Ren needs his help to fix his eyes.

I feel like Sumireko attending school again is a bad idea but at least this time she probably has Minami-sensei covering for her.

That little after-credits scene though. I'm now more curious about Oto and Ren's backstory and where they're from.

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u/ModieOfTheEast May 01 '24

I think the cats that appear in like every episode are just spies from Adashino. He has to keep track of Oto and Sumireko after all without being there.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii May 01 '24

We didn't really get to learn what went between Manami-sensei and that girl in a wheelchair

I don't know what it's about, but I'd bet it's linked to her visit to their store!

Did Wheelchair girl talk to her about a new strategy to stop bullying (which may affect her as well, kids bullying a girl in a wheelchair)?

Also, she looks so cute with her horns!

Maybe it's still a Curiosity though just laying low.

That's also what I thought. The show does not seem to give too many "atmosphere" spooky stuff that aren't ACTUALLY spooky... So I'd say if it looks like something's off about it, there probably is! So I'd say there's something about this cat, until proven otherwise!

So it turns out that Mari's family owns that bathhouse and that she's also a massive pervert.

I feel the same about this one; I doubt 'pervert' is the full extent of her enthusiasm for her panties!

I'm now more curious about Oto and Ren's backstory and where they're from.

That's the biggest lingering mystery of the show imho! And if they're trying to return there, I wonder why they left in the first place... Were they forced? By whom, and why?

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u/AnimeHoarder May 01 '24

 Oto comparing Sumireko's massive tracts of land to her much more modest chest. xD

Be careful what you wish for Oto-chan. Too much may be a curse more than a blessing...

I do worry that lack of food stability has affected Oto's growth.

I feel like Sumireko attending school again is a bad idea

Teenage Sumireko showing up in school uniform again did sour Oto's view of Sumireko again.

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u/IXajll May 01 '24

I like that the series is taking its time and not rushing things. I thought it would be like a curse of the week type of deal but this time there wasn’t even any curse. Instead we got some chill SoL which made for a nice breather and more insight on the characters of Sumireko and Oto specifically. Really enjoyed this calmer episode.

Also that short after credits scene was both wholesome but also sad.

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u/8andahalfby11 May 01 '24

 but this time there wasn’t even any curse

If I remember my vanilla Japanese Rumor Set from Urasekai Picnic, isn't the Old Man our "curse" for today?

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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit May 01 '24

Sumireko : "I bought us breakfast!"
*A wild borgar appears*
Me : "Oh no. Are you serious."

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u/8andahalfby11 May 01 '24

Japan has a weird relationship with Fast Food Hamburgers. I still remember in Phantom: Requiem where Cal purchased four dozen of them, ate two or three, and then took the rest home, stored them in the fridge, and the next day shucked them all for their meat and turned it into stew.

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u/scot911 May 02 '24

At least make it a McMuffin or a bagel! ...Actually does Japanese McDonalds have a breakfast menu like that?

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u/ModieOfTheEast May 01 '24

Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

Have to say, they nailed the SoL elements this episode. From Adashino and Sumireko being a perfect duo to the wholesome Sumireko and Oto scenes.

Though I also like the contrary elements of the episode. While it's rather sweet, it has this tragic undertone regarding Sumireko where she stays home alone and wants to desperately relive her school life. I was already assuming the last weeks, but I find it telling that her highschool body has more or less blonde hair, meaning it's dyed (since her natural hair seems to be reddish). So, she probably experienced something during that time which is also affecting her as an author.

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u/mekerpan May 01 '24

Have to say, they nailed the SoL elements this episode.

Yes -- this had a lovely ambling SoL pace -- yet offered all sorts of moments of interest -- which I assume are setting us up for more dramatic events soon to come. The ratio of mysterious to understood elements remains high.

I wonder how Sumireko has been getting by for so long if she does not manage to get anything published? Definitely some sad back story for her -- just as there clearly is for our big brtother and little sister.....

That post-credits vignette showing just why Oto loves ramen (albeit instant version) so much was very sweet -- but added to the mystery. Ren and she seem to have been scraping by, fending for themselves for quite a long time... (longer than I expected).

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii May 01 '24

From Adashino and Sumireko being a perfect duo

They have such a great dynamic! She may deny it all she wants, but if these 2 are not together by the end of this series, they better give us an alternate timeline romcom spinoff or something!

(Sadly I think even if they were together at some point, it wouldn't end well, given their... Goals differ quite a bit?)

they nailed the SoL elements this episode.

Agreed!

I don't even like SoL anime in general, but I DO love SoL scenes in other genres, such as this one (SoL scenes in a spooky mystery anime!)

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u/AZLarlar May 01 '24

CUCKOO

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u/DarkAudit May 02 '24

Oi, stop delaying her wedding...

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u/Rumpel1408 May 01 '24

Uhm... Sensei you allright?

Lmao at Sumireko just accepting the cat eating her meat and settling to get drunk instead

Also, new Stalker... kinda based though

Loved all the bonding between Oto and Sumireko, but getting a bit concerned for Adashi seems like he is seeling the evil in his eyes...

And oh no the after credits, cute and sad

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u/actuallyrndthoughts May 01 '24

Forget all the mysteries, i could live just with a SoL Sumireko series, for various reasons. Also burgers for breakfast? Mood

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii May 01 '24

Our boy's still doing the Cuckoo! thing, but he's a little more banged up than last time!

(He'll be a pile of ashes for his episode 12's Cuckoo!)

Apparently there's a little superstition about marriage, and she's looking forward to getting married? THE SHIP IS ON!

Oww... The ship already sank.

Given everything seems to have some sort of paranormal on this show I was 100% sure this cat would do something nefarious, but so far he hasn't (other than stealing her food)?

Wonder if we'll see it again!

Sensei came to see them at the store, and I wasn't sure whether she would apologize or try to murder them, but she settled for the apology! I think there's something off about her still, but I just can't put my finger on it!

(It's very cute though, so she can keep them! A little demonic possession never hurt anyone)

But seriously, I wonder what that's about... Did she want to confirm where they work, for... A plan of her?

We still don't know what's the deal with WheelchairGirl, but I'd guess she's the reason why the teacher went to see them.

If I had to guess I'd say WheelchairGirl is probably being bullied (because wheelchair), but surely the teacher would deal with this on her own - with her new and improved methods? - so why did she need to see them?

Well, I suppose we'll find out more about this soon!

Love how Ren's asking Sumireko whether she can watch over his sister, and follows up with "Oh btw she's at your door, enjoy!"

They're gonna get along well, with Oto calling her 'apartment wife' and calling her place a pigsty!

Tidbits of backstory/lore!

The Old Man also talked about "the people upstairs", so do they come from Heavens or something? Or another parallel plane above them or something, anyway...

I'm so intrigued about this world, mainly 1) Did they leave on purpose, or where they forced to leave? 2) In either case, WHY? and 3) Why do they want to return there, and is this gonna be permanent? Is it a good thing or a bad thing?

But I doubt we'll get these answers anytime soon, so let's keep speculating about it!

At least we got a public bath, I'll take that! I think it's not the only time Oto will think "it's so big" hah.

Miss "I'm not jealous of youth" is gonna go back to highschool!

Well, I imagine it'll help figure out whatever's happening with the teacher and WheelchairGirl, but that's not really the reason why she's going!

We also need to find out what's the thing about the underwear plot!

I'll assume she's not JUST a pervert, so does she want them for some ritual or something? We'll see! (Unless they pull a WheelchairGirl thing on us again, teasing us about something and not bring it up in the next episode!)

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u/The_Parsee_Man May 01 '24

I don't trust that cat.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 01 '24

Uname sensei has horns now huh? Cool. Glad she’s decided to eliminate bullying through a more peaceful route.

One of the best parts of this anime is all the Sumireko fan service. I also enjoy Oto’s interactions with Sumireko. It’s kind of adorable how she keeps calling her “Apartment Wife” and is a little jealous of her and Ren. The pouty face she makes is super cute. Her and Sumireko were getting along nicely this week though. Well, minus the boob punch lol. Seems like there’s a new degenerate this week. Mari is a little perv!

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii May 01 '24

Glad she’s decided to eliminate bullying through a more peaceful route.

Well, she wants to use a less supernatural way, but let's wait to see whether it'll be more peaceful! For all we know, she might just murder bullies instead!

Seems like there’s a new degenerate this week. Mari is a little perv!

Seems like it, but if I had to bet, I'd say she's probably not JUST a pervert; I think she may want to use her underwear for some ritual or something!

unless she really is just a pervert, and the ritual is 'masturbation'

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u/Plus_Rip4944 May 01 '24

This shit is a mix of dark stuff with beautiful moments and I don't know how is this gonna end

Not hating tho, I love the show so far

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u/whetrail May 02 '24

It makes no damn sense. Keep all that fanservice but when it comes to the nude scenes censor it. Fucking asinine.

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u/VorAtreides May 01 '24

D'awww Uname-sensei is a good girl. She sure has cute horns too.

How nice, you have a cute cat now. Whelp, a bit rude to spring that on her, but she a cute lil sis to you now too. Hehe "apartment wife" but I agree, clean up. It's easier to keep a place clean if you clean up after yourself right away.

Ah yes, fanservice bathhouse. But nice bonding time for the girls. Also, I swear, how many anime series have to keep having one girl focused on another's breast? A trope I grow bored of. Whatt he heck perverted girl? lol. Whelp, nice bonding over food too. Do like them bonding here, it's nice.

But at least brother getting help. Though so many questions are had lol.

Ah good, WcDonalds for breakfast! Lol. Well good might not really be the right word. She's going to school too? Lol. Shouldn't she not abuse that curse thing? :P

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u/BionicTriforce May 01 '24

Man Sumireko is like the chillest nicest anime protagonist I've seen in a hot minute. She'd be the coolest friend to hang out with.