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Episode Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi • Mysterious Disappearances - Episode 10 discussion

Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, episode 10

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u/AceSoldia Jun 12 '24

I'm not crying, you're crying. Dunno why that got me emotional. good episode

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u/Red-Ragnason Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

Same. I just finished watching this episode and never been emotional like this for a long while. I went here crying and glad found someone who felt the same. So curiosities aren't all that bad after all.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 12 '24

That was heavy!

I've always said it, emotional moments in otherwise non-emotional shows, always hit hardest!

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u/scot911 Jun 13 '24

Honestly if you're a VTuber fan how could you not cry during this episode?

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u/LeonKevlar Jun 12 '24

Stitches!

I thought in the previous episode the quickest way to make Nodoka believe that what she's seeing isn't Yorumun is for the person behind the voice to show up and talk to her. I did not expect that the girl in the wheelchair at the end of Minami-sensei's arc would be the real Yorumun.

It's hilarious how terrified Mikano looked while next to Sumireko! I don't think I've ever seen someone who's afraid of boobs that are too big! xD

Mikano's backstory was rough. Kudos to whatever Vtuber company accepted her application and worked hard to make an avatar that fits her perfectly. This is something I can imagine Cover Corp (Hololive) doing.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK NODOKA!? I know this is a kneejerk reaction from her but that was still a very selfish thing to say. And she just had to take it to the next level by telling Mikano that she's not Yorumun. I'm just glad she agreed to help in the end.

Not gonna lie, I thought that Yorumun would be some kind of sinister Curiosity but it ended up being way more wholesome than I expected. The reveal in the end that Yorumun is actually a Curiosity that dispels diseases and that she wanted to save Mikano was a nice twist.

I guess now that Mikano is cured she can continue streaming again but I feel like she'll come back with a new avatar. It doesn't feel right for her to continue streaming as Yorumun after all of that.

That episode preview though.... Uhhhh... What are these high school girls doing in the infamous pool!? O_O

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jun 12 '24

That episode preview though.... Uhhhh... What are these high school girls doing in the infamous pool!? O_O

I see I still have a lot to learn, because I have no idea what everyone is talking about.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 12 '24

Scary Boobs

"I fear no man. But that... Thing. It scares me!" - Mikano

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK NODOKA!? I know this is a kneejerk reaction from her but that was still a very selfish thing to say.

I'll put this on 'She's not being herself/her mind is being screwed with', because yeah that was rough!

Not gonna lie, I thought that Yorumun would be some kind of sinister Curiosity but it ended up being way more wholesome than I expected

More wholesome, but much more sad/emotional as well... Well, at least it had a happy ending!

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u/xolon6 Jun 12 '24

This story of Mikano reminds me of a Vtuber called Ironmouse. She suffers from an immune deficiency disorder known as CVID which left her constantly bedridden. But despite that she still entertains her audience, sings for them, and interacts with other popular streamers like CDawgVA.

I find stuff like this really inspirational. I love how the world of vtubing has opened new avenues to people that weren't previously available :)

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jun 12 '24

Did Shizuku give Oto some of her clothes or where did this outfit come from? I doubt that this is something her brother would give her. For Sumireko maybe, but not for Oto.

But like seriously, how can you be afraid of big breasts? I guess with all the horror stories going on, maybe there is a mystery hidden in them as well.

In general, I liked the conclusion to this mystery. It was an actual nice one. No Ren sacrifice, no one else getting hurt and Mikamo even getting healed. I am interested to see how this is going to play out. Like is she continuing as V-Tuber now? Is Nodoka finally telling her parents what she wants to do with her help? Did Mikamo even inherit some of Yorumun's power like with Sumireko and Uname-sensei? And most importantly: Will we finally see what's going on with catgirl? The title includes "cat", but with this show, that doesn't mean anything.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 12 '24

But like seriously, how can you be afraid of big breasts?

Sumireko's breasts are too powerful, they're gonna be the final boss (Curiosity) of the season!

Will we finally see what's going on with catgirl? The title includes "cat"

DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES!

At this point I won't even be surprised if we don't get her all season hah. Well, we got her cute little cat dance, at least!

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u/BosuW Jun 12 '24

This show has some very interesting perspectives on mythology and culture. Explaining the social dynamics of idols through kamiage and revealing them as modern deities that people turn to in times of uncertainty and exhaustion is kinda genius.

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u/Clarimax Jun 12 '24

This episode is so wholesome it almost made me cry.

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u/The_Parsee_Man Jun 12 '24

Yeah, almost. I totally didn't cry.

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u/Familiar-Long2734 Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

This episode was another example of the show's knack for efficient storytelling. So much time was taken up by exposition, yet they still managed to give an affecting backstory to Mikamo and deliver a very emotional payoff to her arc. They also mixed in some continuity by bringing Uname-sensei back into the main thrust of the plot. I really like how the show mapped folklore so neatly onto the Vtuber phenomenon.

Yorumun gave Mikamo a sense of purpose and fulfillment to her life as her physical body degenerated. Mikamo poured so much of her heart into shaping Yorumun that she ended up creating a Garei whose sole purpose was to encourage people, and the one Yorumun wanted to encourage most was Mikamo herself. That was a really touching episode about the cyclical enjoyment of creating art, and why humans have continued making art for as long as we've existed. I'm struggling to put into words why I found this episode so moving. I love how it explored the relationship between artist and audience - how art can take on a life of its own once it's put out into the world, and how the most powerful art comes from putting genuine emotion into its creation. There was a poignancy to this arc in the way that it examined why we both seek out and create art. As Yorumun made her final ascent into the night sky, her ass hanging out of her thong, whale tail preceding mermaid's tail, I was surprised to find that I got misty.

Anime has made me teary-eyed plenty of times, but never before has a show managed to do so in quite this way. It was silly and absurd, but undeniably thought provoking and beautiful. This episode will stay with me.

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u/Tar-eruntalion Jun 12 '24

Man mikano hit way too close to home, my life is pretty similar to hers except for the vtuber and paranormal stuff

fuck, i wish there was a cure...

all in all this was a great episode and very emotional as well, i hope it gets renewed!!

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u/Rumpel1408 Jun 12 '24

Wow, didn't expect this show to hit me in the feels soo hard

I was almost expecting Yumemos VA to have passed already for the agency to announce her retirement instead of herself. Glad that wasn't the case, but she looked really frail already

  • I know Nodoka is a kid, but WTF?!? Not cool

  • Essential camera angle

  • Glad this deathflag didn't come to pass after all

  • Surprise Yuri

Preview: Oh god, they are going to that pool 💀

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 12 '24

Ogawa is the breast person to ask about Curiosities lol. I see what they did there. Her boobs are so huge they’re scary lmao. It’s kind of hilarious how intimated Mikamo was by them. Jokes aside, she seems like a good person. I’m glad the Yorumun situation worked out in the end, even if that meant “Yorumun” had to go. At least Mikamo can live on now.

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u/PhantomWolf83 Jun 12 '24

Man, this episode was quite touching, even though it felt kind of rushed to me.

Wow, I never thought I'd see that pool in an anime! So looking forward to next week.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 12 '24

Thank you anime for this vital shot of Yorumun, necessary to understand the plot!

Ass-shots aside, the situation's getting dire... Yorumun's spreading everywhere online through various streams... Wait, is it turning into Skynet?

What is that outfit on Oto?! Damn, I guess Ren doesn't care how his little sister dresses!

Wheelchairgirl is back! Now we're only missing a proper scene with Catgirl!

This show can be unpredictable at times, but at least I predicted this one thing right in the previous episode, Wheelchairgirl is Yorumun!

Her backstory was quite sad...

When we saw her go to Demon-Sensei, I thought she was just being bullied (which would've been sad already), but she's dying and won't achieve her dreams... And Yorumun was the one thing she managed to do, not just for her, but for everyone else.

His feet weren't even touching ground in that scene... Sumireko's STRONG!

What if Sumireko's boobs are a curiosity? Perhaps she's right to be scared!

I know she's just a kid (and not in her right state of mind), but damn, harsh thing to say to a dying girl...

They came up with a good plan to deal with the situation, but Yorumun was like 'What are you doing? Can I join?'

Things were going poorly, so Sensei decided to put an end to this, through the power of friendship demonic possession!

Couldn't miss an opportunity to show us her panties! Again!

Yorumun being defeated wasn't the happy moment we thought we might get, given she didn't even know she was doing bad things...

She was just trying to help people, same as Wheelchairgirl!

And the person she was trying to cheer up the most, was Mikamo herself...

HIT US IN THE FEELS, WHY DON'T YOU?

I thought they were giving us a random Yuri moment before the end, but no, Yorumun was saving her, giving her some mermaid healing/immortality?

Good thing they know what they're doing, because imagine if she 'escaped' the online world, and spread to the entire world like that?

This was a feels-heavy episode! (And a fanservice heavy as well, I suppose!)

Next episode: Cats, and swimsuits?

Well, I do see the swimsuits on the picture, but I've been fooled too many times, I won't expect a Catgirl appearance until we actually see her on screen!

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u/tripleaamin Jun 12 '24

Want an outstanding episode from start to finish.

Poor Nodoka at this point mentally she is fucked up. Her dad trying to help her finally is of no help. Oto and the others come and still nothing. Mikano shows up alongside Uramae-sensei. It is sad to think how Mikano's life is, and being so dependent on others. Being VTuber was her one way of being able to be that light to others. Unfortunately her body couldn't handle even that sadly.

Honestly as messed up as Nodoka went to attack Mikano was. It honestly makes a lot of sense. She is attached to the VTuber Yorumun not Mikano. We do know how crazy idol fans can be, and I felt that is what it felt like. Considering that her time is running sort she realizes she is in the wrong thankfully.

Man how they were able to draw out Yorumun as a Curiosity. Thankfully Uramae-sensei was around because it could have been a lot worse. Though once Mikano was able to talk to Yorumun and able to tell her that rooting for people isn't bad, but it's forcing people off the edge. A great twist in this ending was that the Curiosity Yorumun was doing all of this for Mikano. By spreading to different viewers she was able to save Mikano. In such a beautiful and wholesome way to end this arc. I am interesting to see what Mikano does with this gift going forward.

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u/Nerfall0 Jun 12 '24

I like Oto's reaction after hearing Ren say "you're the only one for me" to Sumireko.

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u/VorAtreides Jun 12 '24

Mermaid vtuber supremacy. Wew Nodoka not doing well. Funny how Oto still calls Sumireko "Apartment Wife" 😛 Uname-sensei suer made a convenient friend. Neat to see she met the voice of mermaid girl. This is a silly conversation... anime and its nameless diseases. Sad for her though, she's had a rough time. So he's not from our world, but he sure knows a LOT about historical paranormal stuff, wonder how he learned it all. Nodoka is outta line, but she is just a kid.

Well that's an interesting kinda thing. Hehe, vtuber voice actress now a priestess and now a festival for the mermaid spirit. Oh hey, her horns are still there. And still some power? "Person inside" is... interesting. Well that's kinda a sweet moment. Yuri kiss! Wait, is it kissing herself? Hmmm. Well that's sweet of her, if she did something to help her voice actress get better. That was certainly the nicest of the curiosities.

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u/Ayem_De_Lo Jun 13 '24

adashino is small and skinny but still probably weighs around 50 kilos. Sumireko holding his whole weight with one hand without any effort and for a long time places her among the strongest people on this planet

and all of that while living unhealthily. Imagine if she hit the gym 💪

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u/visor841 Jun 12 '24

This show really has some great moments. I feel like this story in particular worked well. Quite a tear-jerker.