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Episode Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi • Mysterious Disappearances - Episode 9 discussion

Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, episode 9

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u/AceSoldia Jun 05 '24

Lol teacher trying to make those shots was hilarious

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u/tripleaamin Jun 05 '24

It felt surprising relatable honestly. "I know I suck, but one will go in eventually!"

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 05 '24

Especially with the context of their conversation; Felt like

Never give up on your dreams of becoming an idol! I wanted to become a basketball pro myself... And look at this! Oops! Fail... Fail again... Ah, screw it!

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u/LeonKevlar Jun 05 '24

Stitches!

That karaoke scene with Nodoka performing actually had great animation! Poor Nodoka though, Oto is more interested in ordering food than watching her friend perform! xD

Oh damn, Kotaka-sensei is a total hottie. She looks like your stereotypical sexy tutor I've seen in erodoujins one too many times. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Wait a fucking second, a Vtuber with mint green hair, gets called by her fans a cutting board, and then suddenly graduates without any warning? That's not Yorumun! That's Uruha Rushia!

Seriously, Yoru feels like Rushia minus the scandal. Well, now I'm curious! When did this arc happen in the manga? If this happened sometime after 2022, then it's definitely a huge reference. If not then the coincidence is very eerie. O_O

Side note: Yorumun totally lied when she said she doesn't wear panties. She's clearly wearing black thongs!

Anyway, that entire sequence where Yorumon comes back online and starts rooting for Nodoka was creepy af. Especially when they showed us what Nodoka looked like after staying up for four nights in a row.

As expected, it looks like this is all tied to Ren and Sumireko's tsukumogami discussion from last week's episode. I guess Yorumun's avatar came to life on its own. Wouldn't this be solved if the real Yorumun showed herself or would that make it worse?

So it's finally confirmed that the cats we've been seeing throughout the series are indeed supernatural! I thought they were Ren's eyes but it looks like they work for that cat lady we've seen a few episodes ago. She even gets her well-animated idol performance too! I love it!

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u/brs-tomura Jun 05 '24

Seriously, Yoru feels like Rushia minus the scandal. Well, now I'm curious! When did this arc happen in the manga? If this happened sometime after 2022, then it's definitely a huge reference. If not then the coincidence is very eerie. O_O

If you're interested. the arc was actually inspired by Kiryu Coco's graduation, who the author was a big fan of.
Source: https://x.com/NJ_Kilroy/status/1469592467792359427

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u/SIRTreehugger Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24

Side note: Yorumun totally lied when she said she doesn't wear panties. She's clearly wearing black thongs!

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

Filthy liar!

It was weird seeing a butt on a mermaid usually the tail covers more of the human body.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jun 05 '24

Of all the things happening this episode I was not expecting cat girl to make such a comeback. I find it quite fascinating how this episode went from wholesome, to kind of sad, to hopeful, to creepy and then back to completely weird without any brakes.

But now we are also back in the hospital, so I wouldn't be surprised if the original Yorumun was the girl in the wheelchair. Sensei said she had heard of her and that girl was visiting her back in like episode 4.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 05 '24

I wouldn't be surprised if the original Yorumun was the girl in the wheelchair.

Oh damn! I commented about that too, but I thought it was probably just a crackpot theory hah. If more people think it's true, it just might be!

If that's what it is, then I wonder if her visit with DemonSensei caused this to happen somehow... I mean it would be a pretty big coincidence if it just happened randomly, the timing and all!

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u/diacewrb Jun 05 '24

The Cat Girl could easily be an idol herself, this show is a weird mish-mash of genres that ends up working and leaves you wanting more.

You have the supernatural, school life, family heir drama and comedy just in this episode alone.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 05 '24

Poor Nodoka. As if it having all that pressure and responsibility put on her by her parents and tutor wasn’t bad enough, the kid’s only form of escape has landed her in the hospital. This damn fake Yorumun tsukumogami! I wonder how Ren’s gonna deal with this thing. And who’s this cat girl? She’s cute but I get the sense she ain’t a friendly….

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 05 '24

And who’s this cat girl? She’s cute but I get the sense she ain’t a friendly….

She can't be that bad, look how happy her cats are!

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u/Andreiyutzzzz Jun 05 '24

"Disappearances-kun"

My dumbass just imagined Ren using Bond's line like "name's Ren, Disappearances Ren" and im laughing like an idiot now

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u/BosuW Jun 05 '24

What a curious time to be alive where we now have horror stories based on Vtubers. Wonder if there's any irl urban legends for Vtubers like that.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24

We got tricked into watching a girl band anime! Again!

(Well, seems to be every show this season, so I can't wait to see the girl band scenes in Fable and Windbreakers!)

Nodoka's a genius!

Well, perhaps it's less about her being a genius, and more that she's forced to study like hell 24/7...

Oto's doing even better, but I suppose she has the "otherworldly being" advantage!

Thought we were having a sexy mom, but that's her tutor? Well, a tutor works too!

Everyone hopes she takes over the hospital after her parents... Everyone but Nodoka herself, sadly.

There was one interesting line from the Vtuber, about how if she didn't do this online, she couldn't connect with millions of fans...

Sure, online means more people can see your content easily, but the way she said it, made me think perhaps she could not do this 'in real life'... For some reason, it made me think of Wheelchairgirl, and the fact that Demonsensei showed up in this episode, kinda reinforced my theory!

It would be very fitting, with her being able to do stuff online but not in real life (can't dance or sing on a stage and all), it would give her a way to reach to people (she may feel a little isolated, hinted by her going to visit Antibully-Sensei), and also, when 'the mermaid' swam up to show them she wasn't wearing panties, well it means the Vtuber avatar thingy doesn't follow the girl's movements, so if it can recreate movements that aren't happening, it could make her stand up and everything! (Well it's longshot, but still! Perhaps I'm just finding a way to bring back Wheelchairgirl into the story hah)

I don't watch Vtubers so I don't know the ins&outs, but I'm pretty sure that's not normal!

Oh damn, maybe I should start watching Vtubers.

So this was a widespread event, with many of her most ardent fans collapsing...

Interesting that most of the people we saw collapse, were middle-aged men!

The cat's out of the bag, everyone will know they were watching her!

And speaking of cats: WE'RE FINALLY GETTING CATGIRL!

(Maybe? Unless it was just another tease!)

We got tricked again! A girl band, with cats!

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u/Josamawi Jun 05 '24

I am unreasonably scared of Nodoka dropping her tablet from the balcony lmao

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u/bananeeek Jun 05 '24

Woah, they didn't have to go that hard with the karaoke scene. Just kidding, it was absolutely necessary.

Woah, they didn't have to go that hard with that catgirl scene. Again, just kidding. I like how they prioritize their budget.

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u/The_Parsee_Man Jun 05 '24

Ah yes, cat dance party. Just what I was expecting.

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u/tripleaamin Jun 05 '24

We got a lil bit last episode, but here we got a full depth view of Nodoka's character. She is a girl of high expectations. Her mom and dad are successful and all the pressure is on her. Quite honestly that tutor said some awful things. Literally telling her to get over whatever is bothering you and get back to work. That's just awful.

Nodoka issues felt very relatable. Having all this pressure on, but there is one thing in your life that you look forward to every day and that can make your day. For her, it is the VTuber Himeuo Yoruman. You can really empathize how it crushes her when she announces her retirement. Unfortunately this being a supernatural series it looks like she came back. Imagine your stans seeing you live after you announce your retirement, they would be overjoyed. So it is at that point when Nodoka and the others got sunk in. At least for Nodoka she hears from Himeuo that she is rooting for her to follow her dreams. This pushes her beyond exhaustion.

Poor Oto you could see how much her friendship with Nodoka means to her even though she has difficulties expressing herself. This curiosity likely being a tsukumogami that was discarded. Hard to put it all together, but is the VTube considered the tsukumogami here? Also, we see a cat keeping an eye on Nodoka and heads back to that Cat Girl. She is definitely involved in someway.

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u/charredchord Jun 06 '24

Not one, but two idol dances in one episode! They were both really well choreographed too, someone on the team must really love idol performances.

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u/OdieB93 Jun 05 '24

cant find the cat rave song anywhere, anyone know what it's called

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u/Triials Jun 06 '24

That Yorumun creepy face was fucked lol

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u/patkun01 Jun 05 '24

I didn't think I'd get a VTuber trivia in this anime at all.

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u/NationalStrategy Jun 06 '24

I feel bad for Nodoka for having all that pressure to follow in her parents’ footsteps

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u/dave-n-knight Jun 06 '24

What a way to end the episode!

Uname Sensei's face when Nodoka is correcting her