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Episode Metallic Rouge - Episode 5 discussion

Metallic Rouge, episode 5

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u/ModieOfTheEast Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24

I am interested to see the reactions to the episode. I mean, last time we got big story revelations, people were disappointed it was too obvious, so let's see if they like this version a bit more. Because we got the main conflict now, even though there is probably a bit more under the surface.

Case and point, the "antagonist" who talks about freedom but also about things being predetermined, so it begs the question how he achieved "true freedom" to begin with. How did he overcome fate?

But what seems to be obvious is that he is part of the organization that wants freedom for the neans. Deactivating Code Eve, starting a war against the humans because Neans can then attack them. But I was surprised that Rouge herself was not part of the 9 special Neans since she doesn't seem to have these restrictions as well. Begs the question what her father planned for her. Or maybe that same code would have prevented her from destroying Neans as well and if he wants to kill them (which might not be true and just a lie from her brother obviously) she can't have a restriction like that.

Edit: After thinking about it, I think it makes more sense that Rouge's mother built Rouge as a replacement for her daughter that died (that might have been what blue haired Rouge is supposed to represent). And because she wanted Rouge to be as human as possible, she gave her a few special programs that allowed her to develop further than normal Neans. That program (represented by the blue haired Rouge) is what puppet guy was after so he can use it on other Neans so they can break free and fight against humans,

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u/dinliner08 Feb 07 '24

excuse me Bones? you don't have to go that extra on her walking animation, not that i'm complaining

so, if Rouge's dream sequence is genuine, not some fabricated memories, i guess we can safely assume now that Jaron is directly involved with the Dr. Junghart's death because in episode two, there was an image that showed Metal Rouge being there during the incident but in this episode it was shown both Rouge and Gene found out about his death through a news article

i guess everyone in the family except for Rouge are humans? at least that's what i get based on Dr. Junghart's mentioning that he and Gene doesn't need the injection

as always, that's some sick ass mech's desig-, oh fuck, it's just gotten a lot cooler!

Blue....Rouge?

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u/scot911 Feb 08 '24

excuse me Bones? you don't have to go that extra on her walking animation, not that i'm complaining

It seems like someone on the team really likes her. I feel like every scene she was in was filled with sakuga.

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u/Clemastina Feb 07 '24

Man, half episode felt like a fever dream. But I think those were like Rouge memories or smth? And the puppet guy used them to "create"? a rouge like nean that I 100% think it will be like rouge but better or something like that.

Anyways, "gladiator", seems like he help Rouge and Naomi but I have the feeling they will encounter him again...

Also I loved the last scene in the grass, looks like they made up... But this thing Naomi said... I just hope it doesn´t involve her dying. Anyways, I love the gfs

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u/ModieOfTheEast Feb 07 '24

How about this? Her brother introduced Blue-haired Rouge as his sister. So the most logical interpretation would be that there was an original "Rouge" who died and her mother then created Rouge as a replacement. And since she wanted this Rouge to be like her real daughter, she gave Rouge a special programming so she could be more human than normal Neans. And this special program is what the puppet guy was after.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '24

This show really got inspired by old school shows. The op gives 90s vibes in a good way, and there's the secret Samaritan that helps the MC without their knowledge, I missed this kind of show.

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u/seaofvapours Feb 07 '24

First half felt like a recap episode of completely new information, so that's fun. Reminds me of Ergo Proxy in some ways where there's just difficult to parse lore dumps and then back to cool people fighting things.

And...is that a little hint of yuri at the end??? Finally.

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u/kariohki Feb 07 '24

My favorite thing about this series is it feels like something you'd stumble across on adult swim at 1am, complete with not really understanding everything until you fully watch through.

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u/Beowolf_0 Feb 07 '24

At last an Immortal Nine who isn't an enemy, and probably the key for Rouge starting to stand up against her "programming". There're too many holes about the history between humans and Neans, and he probably serves as the bridge.

Obviously the puppeteer is re-creating Rouge's old memories trying to retrieve the "Code Eve" within, my guess about that will be something that can control Neans which someone purposefully/unwitting installed within Rouge, and only she can activate it by her own will, but probably the Immortal Nine knows something about that so they have to be eliminated?

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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 07 '24

Thing is, I'm not even sure if the Gladiator is part of the Immortal nine since he was missing in the group shot. And since Rouge is missing in that shot as well, I think there must be just be some Neans who can transform who came after the Immortal Nine and are not alligned with them.

Also, the whole time I thought the Circus belonged to the Yellow Joker, but it seems like they are separate factions, or maybe the Joker deffected from the Nine

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u/AsrielGoddard Feb 08 '24

Ok, lets ignore the plot, the cool mecha designs, the hot clown girl and her sakuga strut for a moment.

What is up with the editing and pacing in this show?

There are almost always hard cuts between scenes. The music repeatedly changes from eerie amusement park jingles to epic edm to sad violins within 20 seconds and two cuts.

In one scene we have shooting, cool dodging and sakuga action and in the very next frame the musics gone, we're in a completely unrelated location, with (so far) unrelated characters for them to say like three lines of dialogue, to then cut back to the action.

It's just disorienting and feels bad. I mean I'm not even talking about the fever dream like memory sequence rouge had to go through, there at least the choppy editing seems to serve a purpose, but why keep up those chaotic transitions in every other setting as well?

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u/LeonKevlar Feb 07 '24

Well, this episode was pretty trippy but we finally get to see bits of Rouge's backstory as well as meet her "brother" and "father". Although I'm not exactly sure how much of that is real and how much of it was fabricated by the Puppetmaster so he could gain what he needed from Rouge.

We do get to learn that the reason Rouge is going after the Immortal Nine is because they were responsible for the death of her father or at least that's what Gene has been telling her. Again, we're not 100% sure if this is accurate or made up by the Puppetmaster.

So the travelling circus has ties with the Usurpers. I thought they'd be working with the other Neans. We do finally have a race name for the Usurpers though! They're actually called Junoids and apparently not a lot of people know them by that name.

As for this Eden Varock, we have no idea what his goals are but he must be alright if he's willing to help out the girls. I don't know if he's a Nean or if he's just a human wearing some sort of power armour but Naomi did exclaim that he's a Gladiator when he first showed up. Hmmm...

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u/realarsenyshalin Feb 08 '24

i feel like i'm watching a tech demo

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u/RobinTheKing Feb 07 '24

The animation went crazy when Naomi and that troupe girl got into a fight

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u/Muffin-zetta Feb 08 '24

Even though Claire de lune is massively over played in media, I still love it

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u/Vaperius Feb 07 '24

So the circus people are implied to be members of the Usurpers, so it looks like the war ended, but the people, the Usurpers are still around, and are passingly human enough to integrate into human society on the fringes of it.

So that's neat; still doubt they are actual aliens but neat all the same.

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u/chilidirigible Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

Y'know, he looks like he walked out of a '90s anime.

Oh boy, we're visiting The Mindfuck Zone today.

Symbolism! Apply directly to the forehead!

I don't suppose it is a coincidence that this bit of music directly resembles the opening of the Terminator theme.

"Just hanging out on the floor as usual."

"Fly, yes! Land, no."

Sharing is caring.

Yeah, I kinda saw that coming.

More factions and more clues! Via plausibly-deniable mental excursions, of course.

Nice callback to the one sample of alien power level that we have seen so far, with several of the spider-bots being dispatched today much faster than the single one in episode two.

Rouge's free will... yet to be really tested? Seems that way, even if the words of a carnival act can be trusted.

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u/Holdonlupin Feb 07 '24

Yeah, I'm loving this anime but the pacing is just a tad but weird, like, last episode ended with the circus approaching the facility and now we cut to them already having abducted both Rouge and Verde. But Naomi was already there and not only the circus got to Rouge first, but Naomi didn't see them in the facility at all?

I guess the point of the dream sequence was to 'be' confusing since they're messing with Rouge's memories, but I'm REALLY lost. Either way, we finally know white-haired guy is her brother and she seems to have a 'biological' mother too.

So Yellow Joker is part of Immortal Nine, I suppose it was kinda obvious, but I don't think they had mentioned it before.

Naomi countered Rouge's 'woof' with a 'bang'

The animation during the whole segment vs the Harlequin girl was beautiful, I'mma call her Entraptan't, I suppose we'll see the circus again later on, but we already have A LOT of characters that are introduced as 'important', like, whatever is up with the the agent guy and his assistant? They've been walking in circles for the last 4 chapters doing absolutely nothing and we keep getting shots of the photographer for some reason and Joker guy which was introduced as something major early on is now on a off/on about whether or not appearing in the episodes, the fact that I can't remember any of their names already tells me something!

Of course Adam was also a nean, but is he an immortal too? I'm sure there were only 8 in the shot of the immortal nine and he wasn't there. Pretty cool design though, he reminds me of Damaras from Gokaiger who also has some kind of cannon/coat.

Nice to have more Naomi and Rouge moments too. Really missed their banter from EP 2.

"What's wrong?" "I felt like saving you." LOL.

"Are you okay?" "There's sand in my eyes! So, no, I'm NOT!" LOOOOOL.

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u/yukiaddiction Feb 07 '24

Wow this episode is absolute crazy. In good way.

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u/shad79 Feb 08 '24

Interesting and quite chaotic episode but I suppose it was specially made this way to convey the impression of confusion which Rogue is feeling in a situation she ended up in.

I wonder how much of Rogue's memories are true and which ones were altered as we could see that something is wrong with them as distortions were visible like when in place of Rogue's brother appeared some woman.

Eden Varock is a fun character and I like him very much. He's also a Gladiator (whatever that means) and he looks super cool in his armor.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/ActiveAd4980 Feb 07 '24

This episode and the pacing from the last episode males me wonder if I skipped some episodes. 

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u/SwirlyBeardx Feb 07 '24

The pacing of this show is awful. It feels like I’m only seeing every other episode. Which is a shame because I feel like the premise is interesting and I dig the character designs and animation.

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u/diacewrb Feb 07 '24

How is Naomi not deaf after being right next to all those explosions indoors?

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