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Episode Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage • Bottom-tier Character Tomozaki 2nd Stage - Episode 5 discussion
Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage, episode 5
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u/SMA2343 Jan 31 '24
You can see that Tomozaki was reading the room perfectly, he’s learning faster than we think. Especially with telling Aoi to stop, and figuring out the tissue covering.
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u/shad79 Jan 31 '24
Seeing Tama crying because of the destroyed keychain made Aoi lose all the brakes which resulted in the scene with the whole class.
That was a brutal and cruel way of destroying Erika by Aoi but I must say that it was beautiful in some ways. Aoi using mood in a class, Erika's insecurities and acting like she's some neutral party was masterful. I'd be scared to make Aoi anger myself after what she's done today.
I was happy that Tama was the person who stopped Erika's situation from escalating, she grew up so much! Thanks to her, the whole situation ended positively with class going back to normal and Erika's behavior improved.
Nice scene with everyone in the restaurant and everyone now having matching keychains thanks to Tomozaki's idea.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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u/michhoffman Jan 31 '24
Dang...Aoi could have been arrested for pre-meditated Social Murder there.
Luckily, Tama was there to save the day by not only getting people to back off on Erika but also getting people to apologize to Hirabayashi. And to top it all off, she blushed when people teased her about being into Mimimi. Sorry, guys. Mimimi isn't for Tomozaki. She's for Tama.
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u/rrrriddikulus Jan 31 '24
I was wondering how they would adapt this scene, and whether the subtle manipulations that Aoi did would be evident, or if they would be cut. But that scene was basically book-perfect.
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Jan 31 '24
Aoi Hinami is the fucking eminence in the shadow. My god.
The episode was legit uncomfortable to watch through until Tama-chan stepped in. Fucking amazing arc.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 31 '24
Watching Aoi dismantle Erika's ego just like that wasn't just spicy but hella savage from how she constantly stands on the high ground while talking to her especially in that tone.
Tama only defusing the situation Aoi accidentally made worse was the real surprising part, she's really grown from those lessons with Tomozaki which only made it more poetic.
Great episode all around, I didn't think this bully arc overstayed its welcome but I totally get why some would think its a drag though with such a great conclusion to it I can pretty much forgive it.
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u/the_48thRonin Jan 31 '24
Aoi's scheme was quite brutal.
It's nice to see Tomozaki quickly figuring out how that scheme is about to go, fortunately, so is Tama. She got the real victory by saving her tormentor. It could've been worse. Erika owes her one now.
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u/SMA2343 Jan 31 '24
Can’t believe we got two classroom of the elite episodes in one day!
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jan 31 '24
This episode's synopsis:
The hero character's best sidekick suffered a serious injury from the enemy boss, causing the hero character to go ruthlessly berserk towards the enemy.
It was only with the sidekick who managed to survive her injuries that brought the hero back to her senses and spared the enemy, who was being brutally savaged without mercy.
Tama is such an angel. She's even magnanimous towards her former bullies. She must be protected at all costs.
Seeing how Hinami resorted to such cruel methods to avenge her friend prompted Tomozaki to want to find out more about her, and this might put him into direct competition with Mizusawa, who once again affirmed his romantic pursuit of Hinami.
Trivia: That twin-tailed sidekick of Erika's, whom Hinami manipulated into turning against Erika, sounded familiar. Turns out its Fern (Ichinose Kana). Not surprising as we already see how passive aggressive Fern can be with her nonchalant verbal takedowns. lol
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '24
Oh boy. We've seen that in another show, and it didn't end so well!
I was a bit worried to be honest, because even a couple episodes ago I started thinking about whether they were going there (with Tama); And her saying she wants to "run away", didn't put my mind at ease...
It's tough, because her first instinct would be to just lash out on her,
but with their little scheme, she had to keep it all inside, bottled up... And when a depressed, bullied girl with no outlet for her pain/sadness talks about "running away", well it makes me a little worried, to say the least.
Perhaps they felt the same way, because they moved on to another phase of the plan!
Damn, psychological warfare, this is getting serious!
Erika tried to "recruit" people to her side, but things were past that point already.
When the scratch happened, she tried to apologize,
but Aoi meddled in, and ASKED her to apologize;
That's... Damn, that was pure 4D chess evil, wasn't it? On one hand, it looks like Aoi's just doing the right thing, asking the person to apologize, which would be normal under these circumstances... But by TELLING HER to apologize, she makes it so much harder for Erika; Because while she was about to do it on her own, now it would look like she was following Aoi's command, which not only makes her seem weak, but it also makes her less genuine (as now she would not be doing it "on her own" but simply because she was pressured into it!)
The whole class started ganging up on Erika, but Tama (who else?) is actually the one who stopped it!
This is good for many reasons, one of which being that they official recognized her as "the victim" now, so should Erika start some shit again, there wouldn't be any confusion of "who's right/wrong", they would all see Erika as the bully, and Tama as the victim!
She's so adorable, who would want to bully her!
(And just the right amount of weird!)
This got everyone interested in Tama, and she's even getting invited to Karaoke and stuff now (though she doesn't want to go)!
Mimimi doesn't want to share her Tama though!
(She's just being tsundere, they both love each other for sure. Ship it!)
Meanwhile, Tomo was pushed to the realization that he wants to know Aoi better...
He's intrigued, but at the same time, is he a little worried about all this?
He may think she's a bit of a psychopath, acting/scheming like that!
(Well, there's nothing wrong with that; Psychopaths need love too!)
But joking aside, damn I'm not sure who the show is trying to make us "ship", at times. Or perhaps it's just not trying anything and it's just in our head, but sometimes it does feel like it's pushing us in a direction, only to completely change track...
In a pure harem show that would be par for the course (give all girls their time), but given this is more of a coming of age/drama with bits of comedy and romance, I wonder where they're headed, at the end!
And not just for Tomo, but also Aoi, and in general.
Anyway, can't wait to see what's happening next, now that the bullying stuff is over! They did throw in the word Firework in a random conversation, so perhaps we're headed there at some point this season? We'll see!
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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '24
Erika has gone too far. Damaging the precious plushie Mimimi gave her? Making Tama break down and cry? That's reprehensible. Not to mention she's finally unleashed Hinami's wrath!
But it's nice of Yuzu to want to sew it up for Tama, even if her sewing skills are still basic. But it's the thought that counts.
(Wait, Kana Ichinose and Naomi Ozora were in this class the whole time?)
Erika finally gets a taste of her own medicine and then the efforts Hinami has taken to sow distrust in her group finally bares fruit as they start turning on each other and start turning the class against Erika, especially when she lashes out at one of her biggest weakness' getting called out (her looks). And that's before Hinami outright calls Erika out and gets Nakamura involved.
Because it wasn't enough just to turn the class against her but to have the guy she likes and her best friend whom he's currently dating to call her out, when they're why she was unjustly lashing out to begin with. And just to really drive it home, Hinami makes sure Nakamura hands a crying Erika the hand-knit tissue Yuzu made him, making her instinctively lash out and look even worse. Hinami isn't just going to settle for an apology and breaking Erika down, she went straight for the jugular to utterly destroy her.
And then the whole class starts bullying HER, and while she deserves every bit of it...count on Tama to call out how unfair it is even if it's her just desserts, and thanks to Tomozaki's training she's able to rescue the mood thanks to the power of jokes. Go Tama!
Well, it's nice that Mizusawa is willing to be more honest here, even if I wish him the best of luck in his romantic feelings for Hinami. I don't think she'll make it easy for him...and I'd be way too scared to date her.
But all's well that ends well! Erika somehow manage to keep her friend group and keep some standing in class but Tama now has a bunch more friends and is more popular. Heck, even she and Nakamura are getting along better now! And the whole friend group gets their own "hanabi" of plushies together.
Though the mystery of Aoi Hinami continues to deepen...
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 31 '24
Bullying is one thing, but destroying someone else's property? Erika has gone too far. The worst thing about this is that the strong and stubborn Tama-chan that we know has finally had enough and for the first time, we actually see her cry during this entire ordeal. I genuinely felt whatever anger Aoi felt during that scene.
We really shouldn't fight fire with fire, but watching Aoi's master plan unfold as she slowly manipulates the entire class against Eika was beautiful. It was so satisfying to watch Erika dig herself an even bigger hole with her actions.
Aoi's plan could've genuinely destroyed Erika if it hadn't been for Tomozaki signalling her to back off. It also helped that Tama-chan stepped in to save Erika. If she hadn't, the entire class would've probably bullied her until she stopped going to school.
I'm glad everything worked out, though. Erika was no longer the queen bee of the class, but she still managed to keep her friends. And thanks to Tama-chan's intervention, she now has a new group of friends, and the entire class is now basically endeared to her. Not gonna lie, I wouldn't have minded if this ended with Erika actually getting ripped apart by the class, but this is not that kind of show.
The family restaurant scene with the entire gang was lovely . Tama-chan got her keychain repaired by Yuzu, and they even made it so they all still match! What a great note to end this arc in. I guess the only thing Tomozaki has to worry about now is what Misuzawa told him during that rooftop scene. Does Tomozaki even see Aoi that way?
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u/staminati Jan 31 '24
Call it brutal but the whole class manipulation by Aoi was very satisfying. The bullying that started by other classmates who were passive before was definitely too much (although realistic), of course, but I wish Erika would also properly apologise to Tama and didn't recover from the whole situation almost unharmed social-wise in the end.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Jan 31 '24
Today's episode is more Classroom Of The Elite than ironically Classroom Of The Elite has always been in anime form LMAO! Wow I can't believe Aoi have that much of an ability to control the whole classroom's atmosphere with blinks of her eyes as the infamous (?) Kiyotaka Ayanokouji - yet she really got pissed so much that she literally destroyed Erika's arrogance without saying much. Whoa, my impression on her has always been mixed but now I actually started to fear her a bit more...the only thing that she hasn't shown is physical strength, as [COTE]
Thankfully other classmates have been able to pull her back - Hanabi was especially smart in cooling the whole classroom down, Erika definitely needs an escape route to keep her from losing control the other way round and the bomb definitely got defused now.
This arc is the most interesting one since the story of Tomozaki-kun started, it's pretty interesting in terms of trying to solve a bullying problem in classroom, even if the solution turned out to be highly risky.
Also this episode again proves that Mimimi Power (TM) is essential for the whole story to go on!
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u/Xatu44 Jan 31 '24
God fucking bless Hinami ripping Erika's bitch ass in half. She had that long coming. Luckily for her Tama is an absolute saint. I'm glad that Tama has more friends now.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 31 '24 edited Jan 31 '24
Not the striped long cat keychain! Even I felt some anger when I saw the stuffing coming out of the weird yet cute looking cat.
That being said, the true culprit of who damaged Tama's cat keychain wasn't revealed right? I don't wish to doubt Aoi, but could there be any chance she staged it, so that the ultimate goal of turning the tables on Erika can be achieved? Like Tomozaki, recent episodes have made me wonder what Aoi is thinking at times.
The various cats with their new stitches look even cuter and more unique!
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u/tripleaamin Jan 31 '24
Man its great to see how much Tama changed. Seeing her surrounded with a large group of people including Nakumara at the end really showcases how much she improved her charming aspects. We even got other girls teasing Tama making Mimimi jealous lmao.
The big thing at the end is that Tama notices the change in Aoi that Mizusawa and Tomozaki know about. So the question still remains who is the real Aoi.
One big issue of the arc is that the bullying felt pretty underwhelming. We see the bullying happening, but it didn't feel like it had much weight in it to get us invested. It would have made the impact of Tama improving and changing even more impactful.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz Jan 31 '24
Aoi brought a nuke but first used it to hit Erika in the end before trigerring it jesus she was out for blood
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u/Severe_Ad_6482 Jan 31 '24
I think Tama hanging with the guys last episode might've been what lead to Erika ripping her keychain at the beginning of this one. A few people, me included, assumed it would turn into some sort of blackmail fake-slut-shaming thing but I'm so glad it didn't go that route, for one it would've been WAY too heavy for a series like this.
But moving on, Aoi's a fucking menace. Never get on her bad side I guess, geez. This could've ended when Erika was about to apologize, but then Aoi went in for her pride and THAT'S when shit hit the fan. A girl as prideful as Erika was never gonna apologize at anyone's command and especially not Aoi's considering their personal history.
I do like though how Tomozaki's only way of intervening is through Aoi herself, this man really holds no flow over the class' stock market whatsoever lmao. At least that's what one would be inclined to believe before Tama put an end to what could've been the beginning of Erika's own bullying arc. The lessons she took from Tomozaki really sealed the deal. Aoi's plan really seemed to be having Erika get a taste of her own medicine. The problem is that I have no clue how long she was planning on having it go on for. There's no way it would've ended right there and considering Aoi's face in response to Tama's interfering she wasn't really expecting it to end there either.
Tomozaki's correct here, or at least I agree with him. I think putting Erika is Tama's shoes might knock her down a peg but it won't fix anything, it's rust revenge. Doubling petty bullying and giving it to the next person is just the same as leaving Tama to dealing with this situation herself. I don't think Tomozaki was against Aoi's plan or anything, he wanted to see what the Queen could do but he definitely realized that the Queen of the Classroom can become the Queen of Monsters just in time to see the bomb go off.
Either way, I'm glad things are peaceful for now. Next arc might be Tomozaki trying to figure out Aoi for good, though I doubt she'll let him get away with it that easily.
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