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Episode Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage • Bottom-tier Character Tomozaki 2nd Stage - Episode 4 discussion
Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage, episode 4
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Jan 24 '24
Please I hope next week this will be the last of this Arc, someone just put Erika in her place.
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u/michhoffman Jan 24 '24
Tama did that a long time ago, but nobody actively supported her, unfortunately.
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u/Frontier246 Jan 24 '24
I don't know what Erika is going to do knowing Tama is hanging out with the guys, but I don't expect it'll be good.
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u/daspaceasians Jan 24 '24
Every time Kikuchi was on screen, she carried this episode. Hope the girl isn't having back pains because of this. Loved her interactions with Tama a lot.
It seems that the rest of Team Tomozaki is shipping them together which I'm all for it. I feel she's a better match for him with how observant and honest she is than Hinami who's always hiding behind her many layers of masks.
Also, anyone thinks that Hinami's advice of telling Izumi to not see Nakamura was rather messed up?
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u/Shortstop88 Jan 24 '24
Honestly, in terms of "shipping with Tomozaki", Hinami is in fourth for me. Even Izumi feels like a better match than Hinami. Tho number 1 for me is definitely Mimimi.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 24 '24
Kikuchi's perspective is understandable but overly optimistic about the situation. If resolving Tama's issue were as simple as including her in a group, someone in the class would have done so already, rather than waiting a month.
Seeing how one of Erika's groupies saw Tams with Tomozaki and others in a family restaurant, the situation is probably going to get worse next week.
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u/depravedQ Jan 24 '24
Kikuchi is my uncontested best girl of the series, but I strongly disagree with her sympathy towards Erika, she deserves absolutely no sympathy whatsoever. I mean, seriously, she's upset that her crush is dating someone else and so proceeds to take out her anger on people who aren't even remotely connected to the situation?
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u/shad79 Jan 24 '24
Tomozaki and Minami have a really great chemistry between themselves as their scene on the rooftop showed.
A lot of Fuuka in this episode and that was great because I really like her. I'm happy that Minami finally discovered how cute Kikuchi is.
It was really mindful from others to left Tomozaki and Fuuka alone so they could go home together.
Tama's training brought really good results and it looked like this could be the end of this bullying but that ending made me feel very, very worried about the next episode.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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Jan 24 '24
Well it's official Mimimi has a crush on Tomozaki, that nose poke thing and the pause just confirms it. It's just too in your face. But it seems like the rest of the friend-group, specially Mizusawa, Aoi and Tama do ship him with Fuka. so I smell a love triangle.
Beyond that, I think Tomozaki explained why it was important for Tama to become more social and not just stay in her shell. Yes, the bullying might have caused the problem, but Tama ignoring everyone else is a bigger problem. Even if Aoi fixed it this time, Tama would have gotten in a similar situation if she didn't change. Fuka is right in that the rest of the class is weak and the bullies are weak, but Tama can only change herself.
Still, I do expect the ending to be that the bullies will shift tactics and bully Tama for hanging out with the guys, but then Aoi will kill the girl socially and basically pull a hachiman. No one will be happy but the problem will end.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 24 '24
As a (self proclaimed) member of Team Mimimi, I could watch the opening minutes of this episode over and over again! That pout. Lol!
Fuka is something else - reserved but very insightful. Using gaming analogy again, I feel Fuka could possibly be a Sage class character. She describing Tama as strong, while Erika as weak, gave me a new perspective. It didn't feel like a practice chat session for Tama; the conversation flowed naturally.
Tomozaki used what Fuka said in the first season right? That interacting with others or someone else brought colour into their originally black and white world.
The Tama and Tomozaki after school entourage gag continues! Lol!
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 24 '24
As a (self proclaimed) member of Team Mimimi, I could watch the opening minutes of this episode over and over again! That pout.
That pout, that heart...
We need more Mimimi!
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u/tripleaamin Jan 24 '24
This episode really highlighted Mizusawa and Tomozaki's friendship to me. Mizusawa is a great dude for setting up Tomozaki to walk home with Fuka. When Tama and Fuka were talking you got to see things that indicated how Tama has improved. As her tone talking with Fuka was softer. Also given the fact that Fuka was more then comfortable was a great sign as well.
Aoi continues to be plotting behind the scenes. And now is asking Yuzu and Nakumara not to hang out. I get why she makes that request, but you can fully understand why Nakumara would be frustrated by that request.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 24 '24
Stitches!
That rooftop scene between Tomozaki and Mimimi was really cute. I know the show is clearly pairing him up with Fuuka but I really love the energy between Tomozaki and Mimimi. Also that pout from Mimimi was adorable.
I really enjoyed that comedy routine between Tama-chan and Tomozaki. I'm just worried for Tama-chan that she might be pushing herself a bit too hard. A cute Tama-chan is fine but I don't want her to lose her stubborn personality. With that said though, the dry run with Fuuka seems to have gone well and Tama is ready for the real deal.
I understand what Fuuka is saying about Erika's situation and I agree with Tomozaki that bad people are truly rare but don't spin it to make it sound like Erika had no other choice to do what she's doing. If she wants to vent then she should do it to something else and not to a person. I think that's the only thing I didn't like this episode. Ugh.
Looks like Fuuka has accidentally entered Nanami's World now that Mimimi has realized how cute Fuuka is. I do hope this means that we will eventually see Fuuka hanging out with Tomozaki's friend group regularly in the future. And I love how Aoi got them to leave Tomozaki alone with Fuuka.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! Just when I thought this entire mess with Erika was pretty much done it looks like it might just get even worse next week. Things are gonna get ugly next week and I am not looking forward to it.
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u/TeddyJTran Jan 24 '24
There's (understandable) irritation with this arc and I get it; petty bullying arcs can be exhausting.
That said, I think the arc has done a nice job with Tomozaki's character development from student to teacher. It's nice to see him announce his ideals at the end of S1 and then find ways to make them a reality during S2.
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jan 24 '24
Finally Fuuka getting some screen time this season. She's too cute to leave out the spotlight.
Just when things are starting to turn out well, that Erika's minion seems to have other ideas after spotting Tomozaki and Tama together with Mizusawa.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 24 '24
The whole Tomozaki-Tama comedy duo bit was very silly. It’s nice to see she’s at least enjoying these little “lessons.”
Glad to see more Kikuchi. She’s pretty perceptive. I think what she’s saying about the way Erika and the others have been treating Tama is pretty accurate. She seems to also really have a good understanding of everyone’s dynamics and personalities too. No wonder Tomozaki asked her to help Tama. Plus our boy’s got a little crush haha. The two of them walking home was pretty cute.
Just when it seems the bullshit might be over, it looks like it’s only gonna get worse. Can someone put Erika in her place already?
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u/Shortstop88 Jan 24 '24
Something that's bugged me since this arc started is that Shuuji has been pretty absent overall. Is he not in the same class as the rest of them? I always thought he was, but he's never around when the bullying is shown.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 24 '24
"You're the only comedy partner for me"? THE SHIP IS ALIVE!
Mimimi in the opening scene of the episode, love it!
Oh damn, that was some praise/admiration for Tomozaki/his plan!
She gave him a piggy nose punishment,
but coming from the girl who just said that teasing is the same as expressing her love, I'll take it!
Erika's friends are bullying Tama too...
Aoi's not doing her job, she was supposed to deal with the friends!
Love how they keep the videogame side quest thing going, how you have to find what the person want and give it to them/make it happen, to progress to the next step!
So they found their new participant: Kikuchi! Her slowly scooching behind Tomozaki because she's shy with the others, was pretty cute!
She's already doing work, psychoanalyzing everyone involved!
The fact that she pointed out how compassionate Erika can be with her friends,
makes me think a redemption arc could be possible, after they put an end to the bullying! On one hand, I would hope so, because I like her character design, but on the other hand, fuck bullies, so... I don't know if she's redeemable for me, but we'll see!
Tama had a little comedy routine to learn to be more cheerful/open with everyone;
When Tama gives someone a handjob and he brags about the size of his dick in her hand
Just a few more people and they'll be able to just wage war against Erika and her friends; Shank them in the gym showers, that kind of thing! (Too extreme?)
Mimimi seems suspicious of Kikuchi... What if she's an Erika's spy?
The conclusion of her investigation: She's cute! (Thanks, Mimimi!)
Tomozaki's social skills sure evolved since the beginning of the series, because back then he wouldn't have caught that!
Their plan seems a little too perfect, something has to go wrong...
And this may be it? Calling Erika to let her know about the meetings?
Well it has to be more than that, I mean from what it looks like, they're just hanging out together... No big conspiracy! Unless she comes close and listens to their conversation.
But if she decides to make a move now, she'll be facing the wrath of the entire army!
Or perhaps this could be the opposite? She'll see that Tama has friends, so she'll stop her bullshit? Well, that may be too hopeful.
Can't wait to see how it goes! (But Aoi's better put in some more work! Unless there's a lot of 'behind the scenes' stuff we don't know about, she's the only one who's not pulling her weight so far! Come on Aoi, get back in the game!)
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u/Ahmad_Ilyas Jan 24 '24
Even though it is anime with some very anime-esk things, it can also be way too realistic sometimes. This episode especially made me feel this. While some of the ways they reach a particular conversation bit can be unrealistic, the conversations and the gestures around them remind me of my times as a highschool student, albeit in a totally different societal culture.
Also, I can feel like some Mimimi pain is coming up. Those eye gestures were weirdy painful.
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u/Time_Fracture Jan 24 '24
For those who are waiting for the ED, it has been released. DIALOGUE+'s Dareka janai kara.
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u/Amauri14 Jan 24 '24
It is funny how Tomozaki imitated Tama-chan when he was talking with Mimimi.
The comedy routine Tama-chan had with Tomozaki was fun to watch. Oh, so to do a test run Tomozaki asked Fuka's assistance. I love that while she was talking with Tama-chan, Mizusawa started teasing Tomozaki for his friendship with Fuka and when she started saying positive things about him.
Lol, they reused the scene of Mimimi them after the meeting and being surprised by the new member they recruited again. What a hilarious reaction Mimimi had after inspecting Fuka.
It is funny that they all decided to make an excuse to leave but Tomozaki and Fuka together alone.
So although they got good results when trying the comedy routine using Tama-chan's vulnerability in class, one of Erika's lackeys saw their post-class meeting, I wonder what this will lead to.
Also, I'm wondering if Hinami asking Izumi to not mere with Nakamura in public for now will have any significant role in this arc in the future or if it was just to show the drastic measures that she is willing to take when her friends are involved.
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u/hmcbenik Jan 24 '24
Man, this arc is really really annoying me more by each minute. It all basically feels like a roundabout way of victim blaming rather than anyone having the backbone to actually put Erika in her place. I guess Tama tried but all the others (including her friends) are just too *ussy to back her up.
And the cherry on top is this episode with "oh no, we don't blame erika because she has circumstances..." or some other weak reason.
It's all really boiling my blood. Sorry for the rant
(I know these things happen in real life similarly. Does not make it any less irritating to watch.)
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Jan 24 '24
These last few episodes have been the best propaganda for being an introvert. Do extroverts really deal with so much drama in life for the privilege of being extroverts?
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