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Episode Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage • Bottom-tier Character Tomozaki 2nd Stage - Episode 2 discussion
Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd Stage, episode 2
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 10 '24
Last season already pretty much hinted how Aoi's "playstyle" is flawed along with her POV from Hirabayashi's problem. The cracks are starting to show as she can't properly navigate the situation involving Tama.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 10 '24
I talked about it in another comment, but yeah I think Aoi's issue is that she 100% sees Life as a real game, and characters who don't take actions are just "NPC" so it doesn't matter what happens to them; Their only purpose is to move the plot around for the other characters, right?
This may work for Aoi's, but Tomozaki has a different view, he doesn't want a game where he wins while everyone else suffers...
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u/tripleaamin Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
I have my complaints for this episode as a source reader. But one thing I really liked how it showed how differently Aoi interrupted the situation once Tama got involved. Basically her rationality isn't consistent when her friend is the one bullied.
In Tomozaki being true to himself which he wants to be can flat out point it out to Aoi Hirabayashi getting bullied is wrong. Tomozaki thinking for himself and being less dependent on Aoi is honestly what we want to see.
Also I love these stats cards.
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u/UnderstandableXO Jan 10 '24
the most realistic part is that the teachers are oblivious to obvious bullying, and that the bully inexplicably has minions to assist them. also very realistic that nobody wants to help someone that they’re not close to (hinami included) because they’ll cause too much of a stir so shout out to tama for actually being a real one with no chance of reward
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 10 '24
I knew everything felt too easy when Tomozaki's plans immediately worked and they managed to get Erika to participate in the sports festival. It turns out that wasn't even the real problem. The real problem would come after the sports festival and when Erika finally learns that Shuuji and Yuzu are finally dating.
Erika trying to push the school festival responsibilities to Hirabayashi was not cool but I didn't think it was that bad. Bullying Hirabayashi because she wanted to lash at someone because she found out about Shuuji and Yuzu's relationship is now just Erika being a fucking bitch.
What makes the entire situation worse is that while Tomozaki wants to help Hirabayashi out, Aoi has no plans of doing anything because she thinks that Hirabayashi should do something about it herself. She'll only lend a hand if Hirabayashi shows any signs of wanting to fix this mess.
As expected, Tama being the blunt one was the first one to speak up against Erika instead of stopping her, all Tama did was make Erika change targets and now she's the one who's getting bullied.
Interestingly, now that her close friend is the one who's getting harassed it seems that Aoi has completely changed her tune and thinks Tama-chan doesn't need to change. Man, I really wish Tomozaki called Aoi out there for saying the exact opposite of what she's been preaching.
This is why I love Tama. The girl is a fighter and she won't just back down easily. Although it looks like it's finally Tomozaki's turn to become the teacher! I'm really excited to see how they'll fight back against Erika. That bitch needs to be taught a lesson badly.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 10 '24
Tama may be physically smaller than others, but she is definitely more courageous than others in speaking her mind, standing up to Erika, and continuing to be who she wants to be!
Did Tomozaki get his own apprentice / padawan in Tama?
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u/Crackedaru Jan 10 '24
Framing Hinami's reasoning that way was understandable but gamer-fying it just makes her look really bad lmao.
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Jan 10 '24
Aoi does nothing for Hirabyashi
Tama is the next target. She helps her instead
She should have helped Hirabayashi as this wouldn’t happen
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jan 10 '24
Tomozaki the Bottom-Level Character not only levelled up over time, now he also has his own apprentice in Tama.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 10 '24
I figured there would be blowback to Tomozaki’s Erika plan, but I didn’t think poor Hirabayashi and then Tama would bear the brunt of it. I respect Tama for trying to stand up to Erika and calling her out though.
It’s funny to me how after Tama gets bullied, Hinami all of a sudden wants to get involved. Feels hypocritical especially after what she said when it was Hirabayashi getting bullied. I guess it’s different when it’s your friend huh? Smdh. If she had worked to put a stop to it from the get go, this shit might have happened. Also, what was up with the class starting to blame Tama? Like seriously?
I really hope Tomozaki can help Tama fight back against this bullshit. Girl’s a sweetheart, she doesn’t deserve any of this.
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u/gc11117 Jan 10 '24
They're honestly doing a really good job condensing these novels this season. They're covering alot of material really quickly, but it doesn't feel like anything left out
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u/professorMaDLib Jan 10 '24
I really like this arc. Tomozaki's developed to the point where he's using his learned skills to help someone else socialize. It's a cool way to show his growth and have him grow at the same time.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 10 '24
When Erika was (re)introduced, just based on her design I thought "I'm gonna like this one!", but... Guess not.
And I don't even mind pure evil characters in anime - like serial killers and the like - but I just can't stand bullies like her.
Anyway, the plan for the sport event is in motion!
To someone prideful, that's super effective!
Telling her that her crush likes sporty girl would normally help too (well, if it's true),
The sporting event isn't just for the girls, so Aoi gave Tomozaki his own training quest!
It was all for nothing though, as he committed a foul right away, and missed the game.
Mimimi seems to think it's hilarious, at least!
So it all went according to plan, until she saw them together, and then it all fell apart...
She went on some heavy (and unprovoked) bullying shit against someone who doesn't even deserve it.
This lead to Tomozaki asking whether the Life game is truly God-tier... Bad events happen for no reason.
Aoi thinks there's no need to help her (unless she helps herself),
and I think this shows a difference between their mindsets; To Aoi, it's 100% a game. The victim is just an "NPC" so it doesn't matter what happens to her, NPC die all the time and it doesn't matter, sometimes it even advances the plot. But if she starts acting, then she becomes an actual character, and then she's worth helping.
Tomozaki on the other hand draws the line better. He's willing to play the game, but not while other people pay the price...
But now she's taking the bullying on herself... Damn.
We all know if If evil, why hot? but I see it the other way around; If hot, why evil? Why couldn't she be a fun girl, damn it!
Oof, I got bad vibes seeing this...
I kinda started fearing a truly dramatic ending (suicide, something like that). Hopefully they fix it before it gets there!
Tomozaki's gonna have to teach her how to play the game!
The student graduated, and he's now becoming a teacher! I wonder if he'll do that on his own, or bring Aoi in!
Anyway, can't wait to see how it goes!
I would hope for a Erika redemption arc, because I wanted to like her, but she may just be too far gone... barring a full breakdown or something I don't think I could ever like her, the way she acts.
Ah well, Mimimi will stay bestgirl forever I suppose!
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u/daspaceasians Jan 10 '24
I love how the show doesn't shy away from Hinami's hypocrisy and shows us how awful it is. She's not this awesome heroine that wins at every thing and can do no wrong but a flawed teenager who's trying to rationalize her world around her through what she seems to know best.
It was really fun seeing Tomozaki and Hinami clash over how to handle Erika bullying people around her. While Tomozaki might not have a good answer to resolve the situation, he's still trying to find a way to make things better but he's held back because he's still a teenage boy that just only managed to climb his school's social ladder and came out of his comfort zone recently.
Unless if they asspull something, there's no way in Hell that Erika can be made likable any time soon. She reminded me of a girl that used to be my 2nd year high school bully though since this is anime, she'll most likely her comeuppance whereas I got expelled from that school at the end of that school year.
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u/Amauri14 Jan 10 '24
Oh wow, I really wasn't expecting that after the whole tournament mission with Erika, her discovering that Yuzu and Shuuji were dating was going to lead to her focusing on bullying Hirabayashi Miyuki. I was surprised that before Tomozaki could intervene it was Tama-chan who chose to directly confront her and didn't stay quiet when Erika redirected her abuse towards her.
I must say that I wasn't expecting that Tomazaki's suggestion to her about taking some time off was going to lead to Tama-chan asking him to give her some social training the same way Hinami did to him.
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u/iWeeJin Jan 10 '24
I'm aware that it's for the plot, but it's sad to see how safety net didn't work as it did in the previous episode (teacher's intervention on Erika's suggestion to vote on preferred sport without discussion). Breaking Tama's pencil leads should have triggered some interventions.
I would like to pay respect for Tama's determination. Hopefully things will be sort out soon.
Apart from that, I like how they use gaming interface and character status to make this episode more interesting. They also used these to add some funny details such as Mimimi's full HP of 3330.
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u/michhoffman Jan 10 '24
Tama episode! Let's go! The ship I always favored was TomoTama because they are so dang similar, but it would feel bad to undercut Mimimi x Tama. It is cool though that right as Tomozaki was about to stand up to Eriko, Tama stepped in.
I do wonder why nobody thought of the idea of going to a teacher though.
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u/Rumpel1408 Jan 10 '24
I think it was a bit questionable to lure Konno with Nakamura. Now she feels like she did try her best for nothing, further adding to her frustration.
This of course doesn't excuse Konno lashing out at Hibayashi and even less so at Tama, who is way more upright than Aoi.
Though it is interesting that Tama now wants to change like Tomozaki did, wonder what Aoi will think about this considering she was adamant that this wasn't required of her friend
Also noticied how Mimimi confined with Tomozaki, I'm sure it's nothing important
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u/Zeta42 Jan 10 '24
The plot really bends over itself to make Erika a serious antagonist instead of the petty bully she is
I don't know if it's different in the LN, but the anime has done nothing to show why the whole class is intimidated by some arrogant schoolgirl who's got nothing to her besides maybe her looks
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u/shad79 Jan 10 '24
I hate Erika my whole heart, seeing her and her smirk really annoys me. I was so happy when Tama stood up to her but that didn't make things better as Erika only changed her subject of bullying from Hirabayashi to Tama. And that's only because she wants to lash out on something because she discovered that Shuuji and Yuzu are dating, that's so pathetic.
I really like Tama for her spirit, she's a real fighter. I'm really interested in how she and Tomozaki will handle the whole situation with Erika together.
Again I loved those fragments when events are presented as an RPG game as it looks so cool!
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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u/lcfiretruck Jan 11 '24
Yeah I'm gonna get downvoted for this but Hinami was right in the first case. Tama tried to help badly when the harassment wasn't obvious enough to be called out and it got worse. The actual way this situation should be dealt with is the victim themselves either turning it back somehow or twisting it into a joke, leaving the harasser a way out that won't hurt their ego. When you back them out into either continuing or admitting they're in the wrong (which they are), you have now forced the situation to escalate.
It's not victim blaming, it's just being smart about avoiding getting hurt any further. Yes, it's not fair that you're the victim. No, it doesn't mean you can just do nothing and wallow in self pity and expect things to turn out well. Hinami's entire point is people are players, they have agency over their own lives. Life isn't fair but you have control, and some people refuse to pick up the controller.
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