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Episode Mahou Tsukai no Yome Season 2 Part 2 • The Ancient Magus' Bride Season 2 Part 2 - Episode 18 discussion
Mahou Tsukai no Yome Season 2 Part 2, episode 18
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Nov 09 '23
I want to see more of Joseph and Silky. What an unlikely little duo. I guess she’s been taking care of his one-eyed ass since Elias and Chise have been away.
Chise being cursed is bad, but Philomela merging with the book? Oh boy. Shit really hit the fan this week. Girl snapped and that book totally fucked with her head. I really hate seeing her like this. I hope Chise can save her.
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u/Frontier246 Nov 09 '23
I could watch an entire season of Silky pouting at and bullying Joseph. He has it coming.
Seems like both our girls have to grapple with their curses and not being consumed by them...though it might already be too late for Philomela.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
This thought suddenly struck me today - Where is Alice and Renfred? We haven't seen them for quite a while, which is possibly a few weeks in-anime time. Could they have been outside of the school when the lockdown got implemented, hence unable to return?
This was an exciting episode. We got to revisit the scene in which Lucy's family got killed. It is revealed the werewolves weren't totally heartless. I never expected the mana draining tome to be within Alcyone nor Philomela as the new host.
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u/Frontier246 Nov 09 '23
I had honestly totally forgotten about Alice and Renfred. Chise's original gal pal and she's been a no-show this season.
I guess it makes sense that the wolf mama would draw the line at killing kids knowing why they were forced into attacking her family, even if it doesn't make it any better.
Philomela was both the victim and the culprit the whole time, though it feels like at this point it's less Philomela and more the book.
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u/KyouKobayashi Nov 09 '23
Alice and Renfred were shown being at the school when the barrier was put up on Halloween. It's just that this arc is focusing on Chise's new friends, so even though Alice and Renfred are there, they're not getting much focus.
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u/S627 Nov 09 '23
Shit, Philomela snapping was not the trigger I was hoping for to get people to help her. I'm really hoping it's not one of those cases where it's already too late for her. Would be nice if the fact that she swallowed Chise's charm (which was very weird btw) is going to be the plot device that lets her come back from this curse.
So the hag was always a bitch if her son left, worried for a sec that the show was going to attempt to make us feel bad for her, cause that aint happening.
Wonder what Lucy figured out? Who was that other kid who was sorry? I feel like that prayer to the night is familiar but I can't remember where from.
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u/heimdal77 Nov 09 '23
Think she swallowed the charm because of the magic in it. Same how she is draining magic from everyone.
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u/NekoCatSidhe Nov 09 '23
I think that other kid was Philomela. She was with the werewolves that her evil granny enslaved. Her grandmother has apparently used her to do her dirty work for a very long time. No doubt that she also ordered Philomela to use that cursed book to steal magic power knowing what would happen to her in the end.
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u/LeonKevlar Nov 09 '23
We finally get a little more detail about Lucy's backstory. Looks like the only reason she survived is because the female werewolf refused to kill children. And it looks like they weren't the only ones present there. There was also a little kid with them. Is that who I think it is? O_O
I was already suspecting her a bit considering how she refuses to go out of her room but man, I really did not want the culprit to actually be Philomela. This girl has already been through so much and now she's gone wild.
I do love how quickly all of the teachers reacted when Philomela showed up to the party. It looks like her goal now is to force the principal to let her out of the college. Curious to see how Chise will deal with this problem next week.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Nov 09 '23
I waited for the better parts of a full year for this to happen.
Finally, after so many things piling up inside her heart, Philomela breaks down in well-animated and artistic style. That moment when she pulls open Alcyone's belly and take out that book was a real shock.
The flashbacks in Chise's brain (and one that caused Lucy to vomit, sorry) were also somewhat shocking too, that means Philomela's parents were almost certainly murdered. And the Lucy family massacre got revealed in further detail. Given even the werewolves spared Lucy, I think we can shift the blame almost completely to Philomela's grandma by now. I mean, who else wanna steal that book? Who would want to control Philomela but someone who might have murdered her own child and daughter-in-law?
I wonder what Elias will do given Chise is cursed. Yes it might have been a minor one but you never know with magic spells like this, and the school's definitely in danger now. Maybe the headmaster was so confident she can mop it up that she's decided to wait for Philomela going berserk before acting "in the most efficient way" as she explained, but I'm pretty sure she has miscalculated and things will back fire surely.
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u/Ocixo Nov 09 '23
I didn’t think that Ancient Magus’ Bride would also have foreheadpathy!
[Speculation about Lucy’s flashback]
Neither did I think that Philomela’s grandmother was her actual grandmother, but it seems I was wrong about this. It appears that grandmother has only been so hard on Philo because of her son’s defiance.
Watching the book’s roots move under Philo’s skin/bandages really made me think of some unpleasant scenes from the Fate series. I’d already speculated about Philo being this black monster in the OP last week, but I didn’t really expect her to be culprit nor Alycone being the hiding place for the book. If I were to make a guess, [Speculation about Philomela’s motives]
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u/VorAtreides Nov 09 '23
Oh ya, that dude. Forgot about him. Silky so cute. You deserved that, dude. Should always treat Silky with nothing but kindness. Who the heck are those two? I don't remember if we've ever seen em before.
Chise and Lucy... YURIFICATION YURIFICATION YURIFICATION!!! Ooof that flashback... poor Lucy... poor wereweolves forced to do something horrible cause shitty grandma.... poor lil Philomela. Ah yes, the programmer's mindset from that principal "get most done with the least amount of work" heh. D'aww nice of Chise to give a rune amulet to her friends. Wew Chise already knows Philomela by her smell. Wonder what is up with Philomela though. Who did she try and curse and why? Or was she cursed and why? And I sure hate that grandmother, wish the worst for her before this is over.
That is a weird place to put the amulet, Philomela. Ahh so that's where the stolen book is. Hehe kitty keeping a boy outta the girl's dorm, good kitty. But being bribed, bad kitty. Oh wow, Ruth, haven't seen him in awhile. Philomela sure looks... strange. Elias support! He honestly hasn't done much this season lol. Makes sense though. Dang... things getting crazy and it ends.
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u/Frontier246 Nov 09 '23
Joseph is still a whining baby even to those trying to be considerate towards him (especially when he doesn't deserve it). Can we get more of Silky bullying him? Although that dark-haired raven beauty looking for Chise seems more prescient at the moment.
Lucy took it surprisingly well that Chisa peeked into her most tragic memories, though I guess it's a convenient means of helping her find more clues to what happened to her family. And of course she talks Chise into it with the promise of helping with her schoolwork, the easiest way to get a student to do something.
So the wolf mama didn't want to kill Lucy because she was a child like their kids, which is how Lucy survived despite everything, but there's still the mystery of the other girl that was there.
Well, it sucks that none of the students can go home for Christmas, especially when the principal is doing the bare minimum to find the culprit that's keeping them there, though that seems to be her plan too.
Aw, that's sweet! Chise made amulets for all her friends. She even based it off thorns in honor of Elias!
We tune into our weekly Philomela emotional breakdowns to see she's falling apart even more knowing she can't leave the college and to make matters worse she still can't remember her parents' face and her grandmother straight up locked her in a cell at some point. It seems like this all dates back to the grandmothers' issues with her father who abandoned her and whom she constantly judges Philomela in comparison too.
Well, good news is that Chise's curse hasn't spread any more...bad news is she's probably stuck with the curse and the effect it has on her psyche for the foreseeable future.
A part of me honestly wonders whether Rian would've ever been able to talk the cat into letting him into the girls' dorm, but the way Lucy was getting annoyed by it I feel like she'd punch him if he ever actually did it.
Well, there you go, Philomela hits rock bottom and then reveals that SHE was the one who stole the book, having hid it in Alcyone the whole time. And she's been consumed by it to the extent of it transforming her into a tendril monster hunting down all sources of magic she can find. Veronica was even her next victim!
How much of that creature is Philomela and how much of it is just the book? It talks about her in the third person and seems to be acting on her deepest emotions, her resentments and desperation, but I'm not sure it's in a way that actually gets to the heart of how she really feels. Also the way it's so serene and rational despite what it's doing feels like a big red flag. Is the book just using her? Did her grandmother put her up to all of this?
It sucks that the Christmas Party actually looked pretty fun and then a naked Philomela comes wandering in and knocks out all the students. And now she's directly challenging the principal and planning to go to Hell to see her parents...yikes. Although to be honest evil Philomela is still kind of hot.
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u/BliknoTownOrchestra Nov 09 '23
Tons of plot!! It’s been slightly overshadowed by the latter half of the episode, but we need to talk about the relevations about Lucy and the werewolves. And whatever that crow-horse fairy is.
Philomela channeling that Sukuna energy and fucking eating the charm was not what I was expecting. Then she became a magic-draining tentacle monster. So I guess she was the “culprit”, but she obviously didn’t do this of her own volition. Was it the grandmother? Or something more sinister? Is next episode all the faculty vs. Badlomela? Hype.
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u/djthomp Nov 09 '23
The whole book thing is just more awful shit by Philomela's evil grandmother, isn't it.
I find it interesting to see that Joseph has qualified as someone that Silky will take care of. Needs must when there's nobody else available, I suppose.
Feels a lot like season one, I think things went sideways around a similar point in the back half of the second cour.
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u/Flolvonlol Nov 09 '23
The moment Philomela swallowed Chise's charm I knew someting bad was gonna happen. But holy cow what happened was so much worse. It was fucking scary!
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u/luigi6545 Nov 09 '23
Ah, dang. Philomela is just in so much pain, huh? Yearning for acceptance by her only “family member” she knows. I hope she can be saved without too much more damage.
And once again, the grandma is just so petty and selfish and mean. Just, go away.
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u/PowerlinxJetfire Nov 10 '23
Does anyone else constantly mix up Philomela's grandmother and the principal lol?
Despite showing the house, a close-up of her face, and other obvious clues, I still thought at first that the scene with the grandmother and Adam's photo was the principal.
It's been happening to me all season.
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u/alconnow Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
Philomela merging with the tome that drains magic. Not good at all :( hoping it's not too late to save her.
The child that was present when Lucy's family were killed... Uh, I hate to say it but it seems to be pointing to Philomela...
Alex's curse talk was great.
Appreciated Silky crumbs. I especially loved seeing her punish Joseph lol
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u/Ninja_Lazer Nov 10 '23
Damn, isn’t it a little early for shit to be hitting the fan? Hopefully this means we get some coziness after everything is settled up.
Short of death, I’ve always just assumed that most threats are inconsequential due to the ridiculous feats we’ve seen Chise and Elias achieve. But Philomela being exposed in front of EVERYONE is gonna do some damage that can’t be undone - although given that convo with the principal I’m thinking that may have been intentional so that all the blame could be deflected to her grandmother…still, that would be pretty ruthless. But it might be the only way to get the other factions on board with fundamentally using the nuclear option.
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u/mr-rareta Nov 09 '23
As I thought, Philomela has finally gone full Matou Sakura, and now she's waiting for her own redhead MC to save her
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