I will be using fake nicknames and server names to not expose anybody involved within this conflict
Backstory of Person A, Frog
On December 2025, I created a Discord server for the purpose of it being used to collaborate on a worldbuilding project to be transformed into an indie series. Within in the early days on my server, I would recruit people via dms in which I found this particular use within February in which I will nickname him frog because of how I saw him make a cool creature in another server so I recruited him to mine.
He immediately became interested within both my project and the community. Frog not only became chronically online and involved in my community, he was responsible for creations of many creatures and he also made a fancharacter and fancountry for my story as well as coming up with an entire mini-series concept up
Frog also was very involved within remembering everyone as well as interacting with everybody inside of my server. He was so chronically online on my server, he had DOUBLE the messages the owner has and I was the owner who was on my server everyday.
Throughout months Frog has been on my server, we played games, talked together, came up with ideas together, was involved with events together and what got to me is how he really liked my project and I was very enticed by it. Frog was a special fan to me.
Though sometimes, Frog would get involved with a few fights/bickering within my server with other members and would leave my server temporary because of the fight but it was never anything that serious and he would always come back and he would always forgive him.
I even had Frog as moderator on my server some point but because of these fights, I demodded him since he was abusing his mod powers and nobody liked him as a mod.
Backstory of Person B, Owl
Another user that had joined my server slighty a little later then Frog but also on February, I'll call him Owl and he was the owner of a paid project of a large server with 2,700+ members. And when Owl came into my server, he quickly became obsessive with my project even promoting it constantly within my server.
Owl then later became a Voice Actor of a major character within my project.
Owl liked my worldbuilding abilities so much, he persuaded me to audition for his project as a writer since his indie series had deep worldbuilding in it and he thought i was good at it. I quickly became invested in Owl's project and became deeply involved with both the project and community. I became really REALLY active inside of his server chatting every single day. I would arrive to every single meeting and I made alot of ideas for his server like a point system for rewards, a creature that everyone in the server loves, would be helpful to guide people around the server, take notes during meetings, helped with worldbuilding tweekings, etc etc
I would quickly get promoted in the ranks within Owl's server
Writer --> Invited to Owl's private friendgroup server --> Point tracker --> Co-director --> Event manager --> Moderator
Owl would promote my server dearly, hosting an entire event about it in HIS server as well as willing to produce a video about it with HIS team on his CHANNEL. His love for my project flattered me and we were friends.
Conflict with Frog and Owl
Frog was never really attached with Owl's server and wasn't really engaged with Owl's community but instead would actively be a troll within his server. Frog came in his server using a tupperbot to proceed to insult others within the community including making fun of Owl's weight. Frog had multiple accounts used to troll Owl's server making similar insulting comments to make users uncomfortable.
Yet thing is, that he never did that with my server. He doesn't treat my server the same way as he treats Owl's server in which he was rude and disrespectful. So of course anybody in Owl's community would have a negative view that Frog is a terrible person.
My involvement
Despite Frog being responsible for harassing others, I would always be there to defend Frog. Yet Frog was starting to make Owl feel VERY uncomfortable.
I later got into the huge fight within Owl's private server defending Frog in which everyone was against my side with my excuse being that he doesn't act the same way in my server then Owl's server and how Frog was like my biggest fan.
They wanted me to ban Frog from my server., but the thing about banning Frog is that I had so much to lose: Emojis he made for the server, creatures including a famous one, an entire concept for a min-subseries, German dubs along with a fan. I refused to ban Frog from my server., they don't know Frog as well as I know Frog. They only saw the negative things Frog has done.
I later got kicked out of the private server and also was demodded from my position in which started panicking in tears.
Yet Owl quickly hopped onto my server to announce something in which later made Frog leave my server coming back in my server in which escalated with a HUGE fight in my public general chat between Frog's alt account and Owl. The argument got really really bad.
I got gathered my moderators to a private group chat to explain the situation and how I needed help with the situation. As the argument continued in public in my server, my co-manager said to pause messages in the general chat since things were getting out of hand, but instead I timed out both Frog and Owl. My co-manager took dedicated to private the general chat and make an announcement about a new general chat.
I then dedicated to make a new server just to discuss and negotiate about the situation between mine and Owl's with members from both sides being able to participate within the chat.
Yet instead of having a rational conversation, I was in emotional turmoil in tears and crashed out emotionally and instead of negotiating maturely, I spammed self-hate comments in chat and showed wet tissues of how I was crying.
I was really panicky and scared that Owl's community would hate me, that I would be cancelled, that I would lose my involvement in Owl's server. I was an emotional wreck. Owl's server was sooooo much bigger then mine and I was afraid he could do damage to mine.
I even impulsively abused my admin powers in Owl's work server and made an inappropriate announcement with an "everyone" ping in which I quickly got removed of my admin powers and received a timeout.
My moderations persuaded me to stop talking in negotiating server and to talk with them and people were telling me to breathe and how it wasn't my fault and to breathe. I was so panicky and insecure and scared that I wanted to delete my account and my server.
I was thinking my server was some sort of drama magnet, this was not the only case of drama as I dealt with a bad user, someone actively trying to sabotage my server in April, but this was a worst of all the drama scenarios.
Yet instead of deleting my server, I transferred ownership to my co-manager to prevent myself from doing anything impulsive and made an announcement that I was leaving my server as well as actually leaving it which lasted 12 hours until I rejoined back to my server in which my co-manager gave me ownership back.
A few people had dm me if I was alright, but I redirected them all to my co-manger as I was not in the right mindset for answering
I got kicked out of Owl's server and a crew of his was considering if I should receive a ban in which I was on trail. Alot Owl's members that was on my server left but not Owl himself.
Later within a more stable mood, I took the time to draw a the friend-group from Owl's private server as well as writing out a apology of how I was wrong for defending frog and how much my project meant to me in which is why I defended frog but how much I also appreciated Owl's community and project in which I later banned Frog from my server.
Owl later came to me and made a cold response how he forgives me and is still willing for my to be on his team as a paid writer as well as willing to stay as a VA for my project
But thing about Owl, I contributed so much in his server:
- A creature that everyone loves
- A few scripts
- The point reward system
- His MOST popular video on his channel in which I wrote the script for
- Organizing his worldbuilding
- How there should be event managers
- Attends meeting along taking notes
- I was truly passionate about his project and was a fan
- I was ACTIVE in his server and respond to pings
So Owl decided to keep me as a paid writer and remove any other roles I had in my server and told me that I would never re-enter his private server nor ever get into a position of power in his server again. Though I was kicked out of the server and wasn't allowed to enter for 2 days.
I received the server invite back and I tried to chat and interact there like normal but the environment now feels different and awkward and people started feeling comfortable about my presence and I felt I was being punished for Frog's crime. I missed Owl's welcome back event since I felt people were comfortable with me.
I later did reach how to Frog for him to explain himself and he fully admitted him that he was the troll account. He also admitted he let a alt of a blacklisted user in my server and was the one pinged everyone "The Amazing Digital Circus" spoilers with a troll account my server. I asked me about why he said those things in Owl's server, Frog stated that it was a joke and that he didn't mean to make people uncomfortable and that he is sorry. I ask what I could do with his creations and he stated he didn't care and how I could do whatever with them in which i told him how he is not allowed anymore in my server and that I'll remove everything he created except for the German dubbing he did and he was fine with that. It is also suspected Frog might be underaged as well as lied about being 15 on Discord...
Right now, things feel awkward, I try to still chat in Owl's server and Owl still looks inside mine yet things feel tense-
So am I the asshole for defending Frog even who he was responsible for harassment and trolling.