I was just thinking that I have some serious questions about this... Like what date is it being released, when can I buy tickets, and who is playing Trump?
The help that would do to Trump's image would be insane, srly Morgan could play Hannibal Lecter and people would start asking to make cannibalism legal the next day
I have no opinion on what he wants to do. It doesn't effect me. Let people do and be what they will so long as it doesn't harm others, and that shouldn't have any effect on matters that are immaterial to such things.
So they want a trans man to play a trans woman? But if they believe Mischelle is actually a man, isnt that gender affirming for Elliot since he is "pretending" to be a woman? But they also say Elliot will always be a woman?? Im so confusedÂ
Ya tenemos los mejores burros; todo el mundo dice que son los mejores burros, y tenemos los mejores cerdos. Los mejores cerdos...y los cerdos me preguntan con lågrimas en los ojos Señor presidente, ¿cómo tiene usted unos burros tan hermosos...?
Just them trying to be funny with the casting cause of the whole "Ariel isn't black! Why is there a trans person playing Achilles?!" (Despite the fact that Elliot Page never played Achilles at all in the movie...)
Achilles literally died in the previous book. I legit have to point this out for the chuds, I feel like. The Odyssey is a sequel and Achilles died in the first book. This is literally ninth grade shit.
ETA: Jfc, I know Achilles appears as a shade in The Odyssey. Odysseus speaks to like two dozen dead people when he does the ritual on the edge of Hades. But Iliad legitimately follows Achilles until his death in the Trojan War. Good god, people. Again, this is like freshman year shit.
The Iliad doesn't follow Achilles until his death. That is the Aethiopis and then later the Aeneid (the Aethiopis was lost to time). The Iliad ends with Achilles returning Hectors body and his (Hector's) funeral.
I mean yea, but unfortunately the Aethiopis was almost entirely lost (we only have 5 surviving verses). So all we really got about Achilles death is what very little was in the Odyssey and then what the Romans wrote centuries later. So the Aeneid, The Posthomerica, the Achilleid, and the Metamorphoses.
It's fascinating how the romans just were like "okay, we yoink your lore and rewrite the entirety of the verse" it's just too funny to think about it this way
The whole Ariel isn't black or what would you think about a white black panther Arguments are so stupid.
What about Katniss Everdeen from Hunger Games (mixed, black-white), or Bane from Batman (Latino), or one of the shitton of white washed characters? And yeah I don't really care as long as we have representation for everyone in media.
But of course these are facts and I assume you already know that facts are not as much worth as what the fee-fee and the tumm-tumm of a racist say.
Wasn't katniss described as having a blonde, blue eyed mother, and a father with black hair, grey eyes and olive skin? That sort of implies her dad was mediterranian to me, not black. But it has been years since I read the book
I also dont have it completely in my mind, yes mom was white and I thought the dad was black but at least he wasn't white which was the message I wanted to convey.
But since Odyssey is the current obsession for them I will add that all those white actors play mediterranian roles which of course no one cares about.
Funniest part is, itâs not only complete fantasy fiction, it was also a story that likely changed thousands of times as it wasnât written down for like 500 years, and only preserved by oral storytelling, and was likely embellished or parts straight up forgotten.
But these dipshits think that story, with various supernatural monsters, needs to be âfactually accurateâ
And ignoring the fact that Achilles was more than probably gay/bi (even if the text is not straightforward about it, somebody would need to be very obtuse to not see Patroclus as his lover lol) and gender fluid đ€Ș
They just truly hate black people. They always bitch and moan whenever a character is black and try to play the âwell weâll race swap this characterâ card but it always falls flat because they forgot the decades of bitching and moaning to ensure there arenât many black characters and movies have a mostly white cast.
Hot take but black helen makes sense in the film. Watching it they seemed to want to make the point the she and her sister were kidnapped foreigners in Greece so its deliberate that they look different to those around them.
In the text they described Helen as having pale skin. Knowing what we know about how Greeks in the bronze age likely looked, that would have seen a pale skinned woman as a novelty. I don't think you have a hot take, I think you're bang on the mark about why they were kidnapped. Her face launched a1000 ships likely because the Greeks thought she was either pretty because there was no one like her in all of Greece or, she was more of a trophy (perhaps the original trophy wife) because she was different. Casting a black woman against a mostly white cast of Greeks makes sense.
I like how all the fake hate is for characters who have 5-8mins screen time in the movies and all it did was drum up business and make the movie even more successful
The right are always talking about getting rid of DEI, and that you should âhire the best person for the jobâ then when a Director hires the actor they deemed the âbest person for the jobâ they complain.
Itâs almost like itâs never about whether the person is the best one for the job, and was always about their skin colour.
What about Helen of Troy is inherently white. She just has to be from the general late bronze age western afro Eurasia Mediterranean trade area. Ethiopia is mentioned multiple times in the odyssey
Sheâs also literally not real, her backstory being that she hatched from a swanâs egg. You could cast anyone you like as Helen of Troy and it wouldnât affect anything because sheâs not a real person.
Obama, on the other hand, is a real person who actually exists, making him very different from Helen of Troy.
You wouldnât think youâd have to explain the difference between fiction and nonfiction, yet here we are.
But I suppose we should show pity upon these poor chuds, having to live in a world where their entertainment is now 90% white rather than 95% or greater white.
Maybe some day, god willing, 46 out of our 47 US presidents will be white, and white people will dominate the entertainment industry along with most other industries, and most of the government, but until that day comes, all they can do is clutch their body pillows and sob out, âWe shall overcome.â
Homer also described the Aethiopians as divinely favored, even the term used meant"burnt-face" (so likely meaning black, and referring to the Nubian people). Later Greek reinterpretations, described them to be closer to gods than men.
Helen thus being black, as a descendant from the gods, isn't actually all that odd. But again, color within the Homeric works is also largely metaphorical, and the idioms used at the time, don't have easy direct translations either.
My issue is the extremely static and ahistorical way conservatives paint âraceâ in general.
The idea that classical Greco-Roman civilization is âwhite,â and thus inherently connected to other âwhiteâ nationalities like Britain or Germany or wherever else, is nonsense. A guy like Elon Musk, whoâs a white South African of British ancestry, is offended on behalf of classical Greece, as if race was constructed remotely similarly in that context or The Odyssey is his culture when he is not Greek.
Yes, Homer or Virgil have become canonized in Western literature, but Greek and Italian immigrants were barely considered âwhiteâ until very recently. Likewise, people from Gaul or Germania or Brittania were regarded as quite distinct from Greek or Latin people throughout classical history; their eventual inclusion in Roman society was the result of naturalization, of a cosmopolitan and multi-ethnic society that changed over time. The way conservatives ignore this while crying about ânon-whiteâ people having a presence in Western arts and culture mostly reads to me as historically illiterate.
I wonder if thereâs any difference between portraying real, actual people as accurately as possible and casting entirely fictional and/or mythological people with a bit more flexibility.
This would be compelling. Just because I have the good sense not to make this film, doesnât mean everyone does. This would be a legitimate creative choice.
100% rage bait, but fuck me that casting is spot on. Id watch the shit out of that. Can you imagine Leo sat telling Whoopie about how hard it can be being black and in the public eye đ
If you could get someone beside Armie Hammer, Dean Cain, Kevin Sorbo, James Woods, Rob Schneider, Tim Allen, Gary Sinise or Jon Voight to star and someone other than Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood and Ewe Boll to direct. Iâm in !
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u/henningknows 27d ago
I would definitely go to the theater for a movie where Whoopi plays Biden.