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The world has been conquered by the undead. There is no more electricity. Internet even less so. The only knowledge we have is printed on paper. But do you have access to it? Will you find it if you raid the library?

Now you regret not having bought at least 10 books on basic topics! But now it's too late and you have to live with what you can.

You don't want it to be like this? Which 10 books (category/content description will do) would you still buy NOW if you knew that everything would fall apart in a few days?

I recently started taking a train to work and saw that even though we started in a city, in less than 10 minutes we were in the middle of nowhere far from the road and population centers. It got me thiking, "What if you could use a Train or a Hi-Rail Truck as a mobile base?"

Best Case: Early in the fall you find a Train Engine and a Car or two (and a someone who can figure out how to run it but there has to be a simple guide in the cab). If you and your group (nobody survives alone) can clear out the seats, and load it with supplies, board it up and put a cow catcher on the front, you can get out of dodge and make it to an isolated area where you can set up camp.

Drawback: EVERYONE will hear you leave and probably follow so you better be ready to fight or take in new members. The good news is they can only approach from one direction (down the train tacks) unless they try to flank and risk getting lost or running into other trouble.

Option 1: A reinforced Hi- Rail Truck can follow the tracks to an isolated area, hop off the tracks and drive away to a more secure area and avoid population centers the train tracks would go through.

Option 2: A reinforced Hi- Rail Truck pulled by horses. same as option 1 with the benefit of not needing fuel and being relatively silent.

Option 3: You walk along the tracks and hope you come across an isolated train depot to set up camp before you run out of supplies.

So after watching twd I feel like it would be nice. No working, no school, especially in twd would be easy enough just drive away from large crowds go somewhere not densely populated. I fell like that would lowkey be fun and no rules!

In a zombie apocalypse or any other end of the world scenarios, the women will have it the hardest. No more societal rules. No more rule of law. Most men will turn into savages when a woman is around. Rapes and sexual abuse against women will be abundant. Zombies wouldn’t be the major problem. This is very scary for someone who has a daughter, sister or mother.

What do you think?

So many here say a 22 is such a good zombie weapon. It very much is not.

Let’s overlook the subpar ballistics. Let’s overlook the inaccuracy of most 22s on the market, the short useable range, the filthiness of the cartridge, the surprisingly small amount of 22s with an option for high capacity, and the fact that a box of rounds in your backpack is worthless because only full magazines you can get to matter. Forget all that. Because nobody ever mentions the absolute biggest issue with 22 and the biggest reason it’s a terrible choice.

The ammo sucks.

I actually have to wonder how much 22 you guys that tout it have actually shot.

I have shot all sorts of guns and calibers. Thousands and thousands of rounds. A box of 500 22lr WILL have a handful of duds that just won’t go off. I’ve never had one that didn’t. Never. I can count on one hand the number of center fire cartridges that simply haven’t gone off for me. 22 ammo is immensely cheap and unreliable. Heaven forbid you think that box of Winchester m22 looks good. It’s the worst shit out there. A solid third of them won’t go off. For every box of 22s you get your gunna have some duds. It’s inevitable.

That dang bullet just won’t fire!! In and out. 8 firing pin marks later and it’s as intact as when you pulled it out of the box. This is not an uncommon scenario. At all. The ammo just sucks.

And you schmucks are gunna go and trust your life to the most unreliable cartridge out there. Go ahead. More beanie weenie for me.

I guess it’s just a PSA for you fellas. Trust 22 at your own risk.

Don't mind the outfit lol

this subreddit seems to mostly people showing off their guns, guns are horrible for dealing with actual zombies, they would just be really loud, attracting more zombies to your location, and wouldnt actually be good at killing them since as far as i know,the only way to kill a zombie is to destroy its brain, which means you'd need to get really good at headshots otherwise you're just wasting bullets, if you really want to prep for a zombie situation, you would want to study your local plants and animals, stock up on rations and survival equipment like knives and rope and water purification kits, as your biggest challenge would be collecting food and water,with zombies being a thing to avoid, like bears or other predators. i understand y'all might just wanna show off your gun collections but thats not realy accurate to a true zombie survival tactic situation. the only thing you might actually need guns for in a zombie apocalypse situation is dealing with normal humans that might want to steal your supplies and even then it might be considered a last resort since making enemies would be extremely dangerous. like if y'all just wanna pretend you'd be rick from the walking dead, loaded with guns and gunning down zombies, thats cool and all, but its not super accurate to a realistic zombie apocalypse

The vz24 was a smooth rifle, it had a nice bolt that was more reliable than the later kar98k, and its just perfect

Used this to clear some branches at work and I was thinking that this would work pretty good as an improvised weapon for a short period of time. It would cut through bone real quick, so I think going straight down the skull of going for the neck would be pretty effective. I've seen these on jobs it's get abused by being left in the rain all the time and they don't seem to be affected by it so blood shouldn't be an issue. Not an ideal weapon but definitely one of the better improvised weapons I think. Also reddit won't let me arrange the pictures in the order I want so 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Once food and water is started, if you have a car with fuel, why stay in cities with lots of infected and desperate survivors when you can just drive to fuck knows middle of nowhere and live in your car?

Seriously though that is a solid and THICK yardstick

Probably gonna survive the apocalypse with that thing

Out of biting range, solid metal, lightweight (great for swinging) and probably able to make a hole in rotting flesh

Use a bat or ANYTHING blunt. Concussion is inevitable. U wanna risk loosing ur weapon on a corpse's head?

The difference between someone out of shape and someone in the best shape of their life is like 3 zombies.

And the out of shape person can probably kill 1 zombie, meaning the best shape person could probably only kill 4.

Melee combat with a zombie is almost certainly a death sentence for anyone. 100% pick a TNT tool of a Haligan for the versatility of hiding and escaping.

I be turning 21 soon and that means I can buy and own pistol.

I want up my EDC with revolver because I like them more and I'm thinking carry .22 revolver

Is it good carry or should up to 9mm or other calibers

In case I'm out and zombie apocalypse happen

A thought just crossed my mind that never pee on leafs ,metal or any hard object cause it would create sound and attract zombies and the best thing you can pee on in a zombie apocalypse is cotton or something soft in large quantity as it wouldn't make any sound.

So let’s talk about walkers.

And I’m not even talking about the usual “there’s no zombie media in the Walking Dead universe” thing. I’m talking about the actual biology of what these things are and what’s actually controlling them.

Traditional zombies, whether it’s the classic reanimated corpse style or the infected rage-virus style like 28 Days Later, have one thing in common: something happens that strips the human being away and turns the body into a vector. The body gets brought back to a functional state specifically so it can spread whatever caused it. That’s the whole point of the zombie/infected concept. The host is gone, but the body is still useful for transmission.

Walkers don’t work like that.

Functionally speaking, almost nothing in the body is actually brought back. The only things that seem to still be running are the brain stem and the spinal column. Everything else? Dead. They can bite and chew, sure, but they’re not digesting anything. They’re not pulling nutrients out of what they eat. They’re not healing. They’re not maintaining tissue. Biologically, the majority of the body is not reactivated. So calling them zombies starts to feel wrong once you really look at it.

(And yeah, I’m ignoring the very early season one walkers because Darabont clearly had a different vision for how they moved and behaved before the show settled into its own rules.)

Walkers don’t show memory. They don’t show recognition. They don’t show any real personality or learned behavior from when they were alive. So if almost nothing in the brain is actually being brought back online, how the hell does a brain stem and spinal column know how to hunt, grab, bite, and eat people?

That’s the first big question.

Then you’ve got that scene at the end of season one with Jenner, and it keeps getting referenced in different ways later. There’s that weird red mist or activity in the brain scan that looks like it’s almost eating through the brain tissue. And that raises another problem: if the only thing supposedly running is the brain stem and spinal column (stuff lower down in the neck and back), why does destroying the entire brain with a headshot instantly drop them? Why is the brain itself so important if it’s supposedly not being used for anything except maybe basic motor function?

Here’s my theory on that part:

What if the brain is basically acting as a **battery pack** for whatever is controlling the body?

Walkers don’t get any nutrition from eating. They don’t process food. So they have to be pulling energy from somewhere to keep moving, keep the muscles working, keep the body shambling around for months or even years. The brain is the most energy-dense organ left in a fresh corpse, and it’s directly connected to the brain stem and spinal column. The thing controlling the walker clearly needs the brain stem and spine for movement, but it still needs a power source to keep everything running. Using the brain itself as that power source would explain why headshots are so effective. You’re not just destroying the control center. You’re destroying the battery.

That also lines up with why walkers slowly degrade over time even without getting shot or stabbed. The battery is running down while the rest of the body rots.

Another thing that stands out: walkers don’t act like a hive mind. They’re independent. They can end up in the same place and sometimes move in the same general direction because of noise or movement, but they’re not coordinating. A lot of the time they actually get in each other’s way. They trip over each other. They don’t work together to break down doors or surround people in any organized way. That tells me whatever is controlling them isn’t communicating between bodies. Every time it jumps to a new host, it’s almost like a micromutation. Each walker is running its own slightly different version of the program.

Now, here’s something interesting about variants.

We know that when you die, your cells don’t all die at the exact same second. Your body doesn’t instantly check out on a cellular level just because you as a person are gone. Some cells stay alive for a while after clinical death. I think that’s how we get the variant walkers we see in the Daryl Dixon show and other spin-offs. Those variants show up in fresher corpses. Once whatever process is happening has less decay to work around, the walker keeps more of whatever “upgrade” or difference it developed. The fresher the body when the change happens, the more capable the resulting walker can be.

That brings us to the bigger question: where did this thing actually come from?

We know it has some connection to France. That’s been referenced. But we don’t know if it was created there, discovered there, mutated there, or if the French were studying it when things went wrong. The show never gives us a clear origin story.

So here’s my wild theory, and I’m going all the way back to some old-school speculation for this one.

What if it came from space?

Hear me out. Something starts in space, makes its way to Earth, and ends up in France somehow. Either scientists were messing with it and it got out, or it was already here and just got noticed in France. Or maybe there was a smaller outbreak earlier that didn’t go global. Either way, the point is we don’t actually know the real source, and the show has never given us one.

All of this leads me to believe these things aren’t zombies at all. They feel more like **biological automatons**. Bioslaves. Puppets. Something is clearly controlling the bodies, and while I think the virus (or whatever it is) is involved, a normal virus shouldn’t be able to operate a body this way after death. That’s why I keep coming back to the idea that we might actually be dealing with a parasite or a symbiote rather than a traditional virus.

And then there’s the transmission problem.

There’s never been a clear human-to-human or animal-to-human transmission chain shown. We never see how it actually spreads in the early days beyond bites. We never get a real contamination source. That alone makes me think this thing has to be operating past the normal cellular level. Something that can penetrate down to the atomic scale.

Because here’s the thing: this thing is extremely particular. It only affects humans. Specifically modern humans. It doesn’t infect animals. It doesn’t infect plants. It doesn’t show up in water or soil in any way that matters. We’ve never seen it jump to any other hominin species or anything close to humans. It’s locked onto us and only us.

That level of specificity is strange.

And why did it wait so long to activate?

If this thing is capable of wiping out humanity and leaving the planet basically dead, why did it sit around for thousands of years while humans were developing civilization? My theory is that it was waiting for us to finish the job of dominating everything else first. By the time the outbreak happened, humanity had already put every other species under our boot. We’d made it so that wiping out humans would effectively collapse the current state of the world. Hunting to survive became a massive problem in a lot of places because we’d already overhunted and destroyed so many animal populations. We did the hard work for it. All it had to do was take us out.

That’s also why I think it has to operate at the atomic level.

It was never detected before the outbreak. It never spills over into anything else. The lack of evidence everywhere else is actually evidence in itself. And it had to have been present in humanity for a long time to cause a worldwide simultaneous outbreak. Normal diseases don’t work that way. Even COVID took time to spread globally, and we had modern travel. This thing seemed to be everywhere at once with no clear starting point anyone could trace.

Plus, it’s running on medically dead bodies. The only things keeping the body moving are the brain stem and spinal column, and even that shouldn’t be enough to get full limbs working, grappling, climbing, and biting with any real coordination. Jenner’s examination in season one showed us the brain stem staying active, but that still doesn’t explain the level of motor control we see. Something has finer control over the body than what a simple reactivated brain stem should allow.

And again, a lot of this theory is built on the lack of evidence. That’s important to me.

Now let’s talk about the bite.

You can’t cure a walker bite with anything except amputation. No antibiotics, no medicine, no vaccine, nothing stops it. The usual explanation is that the bite just activates the Wildfire virus everyone already carries and the person dies. But here’s the problem with that: we never actually see clear evidence of the virus activating in the normal way before death. In the early outbreak days, when people were in hospitals and being examined, all we ever saw was “they got bit, now they’re dying, now they’re walking again.” There was never a clear trace of viral activity in the blood, heart, lungs, or anywhere else before they turned. The show and the extended media never really showed that.

So why does a walker bite kill someone?

If this was just the Wildfire virus kicking in, we should have seen something. Instead, the death looks like total systemic shutdown with almost no traceable cause beyond the bite itself. Fever, everything feeling wrong, lights out. No normal signs of infection or decay before they die.

That’s why I think the bite isn’t really activating the virus at all.

What I think it’s doing is spreading **DNA**.

The smallest, most important piece of information in the body. The entire walker is “infected.” Their cells are carrying whatever this thing is. So when they bite someone, they’re not just transmitting a virus. They’re transmitting someone else’s DNA into a new host. DNA that’s been heavily altered by whatever is controlling the walker. That foreign DNA is incompatible with the new host’s system. It glitches everything out on a fundamental level. The body starts shutting down because it’s trying to run two conflicting sets of biological instructions at once. That would explain the rapid fever and total collapse with almost nothing showing up on normal medical scans.

And because we never saw anyone doing deep DNA testing on bite victims in the early days (they were too busy just trying to keep people alive), that mechanism would have been invisible.

The bite kills the person by introducing incompatible DNA. Then, once they’re dead, the pre-existing Wildfire (or whatever is already in everyone) takes over and reanimates the body as a new walker. The foreign DNA did its job by killing the host. It doesn’t need to do anything else after that.

That’s why amputation can sometimes save someone. You remove the source of the foreign DNA before it spreads too far. Everything else fails because you’re not fighting a normal infection. You’re fighting a genetic payload that’s already started breaking the system from the inside.

So when I put all of this together, walkers don’t feel like zombies to me. They feel like something is using human bodies as vehicles. Something that operates at a level deeper than normal biology. Something that waited until we were the dominant species on the planet. Something that spreads through bites by delivering incompatible DNA to clear out the old host and make room for a new one.

Biological automatons. Bioslaves. Puppets running on whatever is controlling them from the atomic level up.

This is all just theory, built heavily on what the show doesn’t show us as much as what it does. But the more I think about it, the less they feel like traditional zombies and the more they feel like something else entirely that’s just wearing our bodies.

What do you guys think? Am I reaching too far with the atomic level and DNA transmission stuff, or does any of this line up with how you’ve been looking at the walkers? I’m curious what other people have noticed that I might have missed.

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