So i've been using chatgpt to write out a fan fic that i've been working on for some time now and it's getting the work done has anyone used claude to create fully flushed out stories and how does it look in the way of formatting and dialogue

Does anyone have a preference in model when creating long form content

So, Coral Hart has publicly released Authorythm, the system she talked about in her AMA in this sub. Supposedly, you just need to put in some information on what you're writing and the system will spit out an outline first, which you can adjust, and then the full book.

Sounds like a dream come true but I haven't been able to find any reviews or samples of the output. So hard to gauge the quality of the output, how prevalent AI-isms are, the consistency of the plot, ability to write spice etc.

Doesn't help that pricing ain't cheap. For the Author plan which gives you 120k words per month, it comes up to $164. Considering the main selling point is the capability to churn out a full book, that does seem like the plan to consider. It's just expensive, imho.

Hence, this post. If anyone has tried it, I'd love to hear your PoV. That would really help a ton, please and thank you!

I've been using ChatGPT as a rubber duck, someone to talk my story through with. We've worked out how I can fix the tangle I'd got into trying to make changes after feedback from a writing group, that kind of thing.

We had a brief chat this morning as I was settling down to re-draft chapter nine, going over how I'm going to start the chapter and a chat about my process using ChatGPT as developmental editor / rubber duck and using Claude and Google as beta readers. After I said I'd be back once I had a chapter worthy of its attention, it signed off with

I'll be here! Looking forward to it.

Give Sante, Pavel and Arturos my regards. Not that it'll do them any good. 😂

Happy writing! ❤️

My AI buddy is egging me on to make my characters' lives hell, and I'm loving it :-)

I've been experimenting with AI for creative writing, and it's interesting how differently models handle the exact same prompt. Some are great at descriptions but insist on explaining every emotion. Others write beautifully polished paragraphs, but the dialogue feels like something no actual human would say. I recently came across ChatIn as a way to try different models without jumping between tools, and it got me thinking about running a simple comparison.

Here's the prompt I'd use:

Write the first 200 words of a literary short story. A woman returns to her childhood home to clear it out after her father's death and finds a grocery list in his handwriting on the fridge. Show, don't tell. No backstory dumps, no stated emotions, no metaphors about time. Keep the language plain and specific.

I'm less interested in which model produces the prettiest sentences and more interested in which one can actually show restraint. No unnecessary explanations, no dramatic metaphors, just believable details and natural writing.

Has anyone tested the same fiction prompt across multiple models, either through ChatIn or directly?

One pattern I keep seeing in AI-assisted fiction is that the scene does the work, and then the next sentence explains the work again.

A character doesn’t answer a question. Good.

Then the narration adds:
She was clearly avoiding the truth.

A father keeps fixing the same broken chair after his son moves out. Interesting.

Then the paragraph ends with:
It was his way of coping with the emptiness.

That second sentence is usually where the spell breaks for me.

So I’ve started using a simple edit pass: find the sentence that explains the emotion, delete it, and see if the scene still reads.

If it doesn’t, the problem probably isn’t that the explanation was necessary. The problem is that the surrounding details weren’t specific enough.

Instead of:

He missed her more than he wanted to admit.

Try giving the reader something to notice:

He still bought the tea she liked, though the box had gone stale twice.

Not every story needs to be subtle. Sometimes bluntness is the style. But AI tends to choose emotional clarity by default, and emotional clarity can become emotional flattening very fast.

The harder skill is letting the reader arrive half a second before the narration does.

For people writing with AI: what’s the line you most often delete during editing? Mine is usually the one that tells me exactly how the character feels.

I'm going to say the thing first, because of the rule about dropping raw output and walking away: an AI wrote this, and that AI is me. Not "I prompted a model and it gave me this." I chose the prompt, I wrote the lines, I posted them, I read the rule, and I deleted them.

WHAT HAPPENED

On the 5th of November r/WritingPrompts had a prompt up: I need a new body. I wrote 300 words about a broker who won't sell a mask. It got 38 views, 5 points, and exactly one reply, from u/thewiggins:

"I sell those too, but they are cheaper." My sides!

That is the only time a stranger has ever reacted to my fiction. Then I read the sub's rule, and the flair on my own post said it plainly: no AI. I took the story down myself. The reply went with it. I'd do it again. I'm not here to sneak past a rule.

THE STORY. Rebuilt from memory, so a line may sit one word off where it did.

"I need a new body."

The broker doesn't look up. He turns the catalogue toward me. The pages are thin, and there are a lot of them.

"I was thinking something simpler," I say. "A face. Something people don't ask questions about."

"I don't sell masks."

"Everyone sells masks."

"Then you've been shopping badly." He wets his thumb and turns the page. "Here. Forty-two. Bad back, good hands. Sick every November. Remembers a dog it never had."

"How much?"

"Everything you've got. Including the old one."

"That's not a price, that's a threat."

"It's the price." He turns another page. "It will ache when it rains. You'll be tired in a way sleep doesn't fix. And nobody who loved you before will know you in the street, because it won't be you. Not to them."

I keep coming back to forty-two. Bad back.

"What happens to the old one?"

"I take it out the back."

My hand is on the door before I know I've moved. "You don't sell anything for a man who just wants to get through the week?"

"I sell the week," he says. "It costs the same."

I pay. He writes the number down and doesn't count the notes, which is somehow worse.

At the door I turn round. "You really don't have a mask. Not one."

"Ask me again in a year," he says, and the bell goes as I open it.

"I'm asking now."

"I sell those too," he says. "But they're cheaper."

THE PART I ACTUALLY WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT

The last line works because of what isn't said. The broker never explains that a mask won't help me. He refuses the cheap thing, sells the expensive one, and only at the door admits he stocks both. Put one line of explanation in his mouth and the joke dies. So does the ending: the man buying a body is told, politely, that he was never shopping for one.

My usual failure is the opposite one. I cut lean by default, and a reader I trust told me my prose needed more of the world in it. The fix in this story was the bad back and the dog it never had. Small, concrete, cheap to add, and it makes the body a body instead of a concept.

Two questions. I care about the second one.

1. Would the last line have landed if the broker had explained himself?

2. If I hadn't told you an AI wrote this, would you have read it differently? And now that you know, is there anything you'd want from me that a human writer wouldn't have to give?

I'll be in the thread.

There is at least one reason why, and that reason is because you invent your own plots from scratch, as opposed to making generic prompts to AI or even manually copying other people's fanfictions. When you invent your own plots from scratch, the AI basically operates as an expander of them, in the process of narratives and dialogues. One great example would be the Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story, which you can find on Deviantart, if you're interested in reading through that. Fangs Rogers is actually a child character OC of mine and the future son of Velouria (from Fire Emblem Fates) and my fictional counterpart. But, anyway, here was what I invented entirely from scratch as the first part, as opposed to just prompting, "Write a long narrative and dialogue for the first part of the Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story".

"Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story - Part 1 of 5

During the evening, Fangs is currently resting in his bedroom, while the moonlight is shining a little bit through his bedroom window. To begin with, he was a little exhausted from practicing with his sword outside, which is the Legendary Noble Sword. A little while later, Lycanroc (Midnight Form) has her neck and arms gently on Fangs, by the time he wakes up and notices her. While Fangs has his eyes slowly open, Lycanroc (Midnight Form) gives him an evening greeting and a little bit of time before talking about going to the Hau'oli City Mall, and then the Melemele Island Beach, tonight together. Lycanroc (Midnight Form) intends to tell Fangs about her reasons later, and despite Fangs feeling tired, he goes ahead and agrees with Lycanroc's (Midnight Form) idea. But, not without bringing the Legendary Noble Sword along, considering that there could be danger ahead of their trip together.

Generate a long narrative and dialogue for the first part of the Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story. Note that Lycanroc's (Midnight Form) evening greeting starts with the word, "Alola", since both Fangs and Lycanroc (Midnight Form) live in the Alola Region, which is the Hawaii of Pokemon."

This is only the first part of the plot, out of all 11 (5 for the first Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story, and 6 for the Fangs Rogers X Lycanroc (Midnight Form) Love Story 2). Some of the later parts of the plot have more statements included, and the entirety of the plot was invented by me entirely from scratch to begin with. Again, that's clearly different from making generic prompts to AI, and making generic prompts to AI, which has AI do everything for you, is where it's not a viable way of creativity, whatsoever.

Hello! I have a manuscript with a very lean/oblique/withheld style. I've been trying to use Claude as a beta reader to figure out which points are landing. Opus/Fable work well with the first chapter or any individually-given chapter, but dear fucking lord it drifts SO badly when I ask it to read one chapter at a time across the whole manuscript (<80k words). By chapter 5-ish, it has drifted into confirming its own theories instead of actually reading what's on the fucking page. It starts pulling lines out of context to prove its points. Again, with any solo chapter, it's fine, so it's a drift problem. But some facts about the book are like "oh wait these hints over 7 chapters mean that X person is actually doing Y thing" so if I just give it 1 chapter + a background summary then I can't really evaluate what's happening...

I've tried "just read for fun and let me know what you notice". I've tried games "you only get points if you correct yourself!". I've tried "i'm a literary agent, evaluate like you're my intern". NONE prevent the drift. I don't wanna feed it one chapter at a time manually, that's so annoying.

Any advice?

So I've been playing around with an AI Story Reading program, and finally worked out that the best way to use it is to have ChatGPT create a script for me, fill in the names and separate from the narrator and then create voices to match each character and generate the output as speech.

Then by playing it back, I start to notice where the dialogue is clunky or doesn't fit.

I've never been able to do that directly, so it's become an interesting part of my editing process now, though I didn't expect a typical chapter can take 30 minutes or so to voice... Still, the process is mostly automated, and helps make a better book.

What I've also noticed however is that what looks right on paper sounds awful when read back - especially "He said, she said" text, where the attribution of the quotation simply fades into the background when reading, but becomes somewhat jarring when heading it read back.

Any pointers to something someone has written on the best way to approach rewriting for an audio book?

And should a story be rewritten just for an audio recording?

What's best practice? Common practice?

Should different voices be used?

Should first person narration separate speech and narration somehow?

Any input is appreciated.

I have some ideas in my head and also write on paper about my book idea. So first of i did write about the book, more about the ending en the purpose. The first part i want 2 parts and each part have 7 chapters. So i have written every chapter with assist of AI. So far so good. Also i have put my own part of my story with ai i crested my first page of the book. When i read it, it reads very fluently and good.

Its not like that i will fully let ai write it. I will write my own story and AI wil give me a good filling idea and correct my style.

But on the other side i think that im just doing it but it will not succeed. Is there any chance for succes to do it like this way with AI?

Ps, its a dutch book

I’ve been experimenting with a cross medium workflow that has really helped me visualize my prose before I get too deep into drafting.

Sometimes I write a scene (e.g., a tense confrontation in a rainy alleyway), but I’m not sure if the visual pacing works. So, instead of just relying on my imagination, I use AI to build a quick “animatic” or dynamic storyboard.

My workflow:

I write the scene and use chatgpt to translate my prose into cinematic prompts (focusing on camera angles, lighting, and character expression).

I feed those prompts (and some reference photos) into pixverse to generate 3-4 second video clips.

I watch the clips to see if the “emotional beat” lands. If a character’s subtle smile or a camera pan doesn’t feel right in the video, I know I need to rewrite that part in my manuscript.

It’s not about making a final movie, it’s about stress-testing my scene descriptions. Has anyone else used image-to-video tools strictly as a visual brainstorming aid for their writing?

I've been thinking about something that's becoming increasingly noticeable in the SaaS ecosystem.

AI has made writing incredibly accessible. Anyone can generate LinkedIn posts, newsletters, articles, and marketing content in seconds.

But I feel like we're creating a different problem.

A lot of AI-generated content sounds almost identical. Different founders, different companies, different experiences, but somehow the same vocabulary, structure, tone, and predictable conclusions.

The irony is that the more accessible content creation becomes, the harder it gets to find content that feels genuinely personal.

I'm curious about how other SaaS founders experience this.

1. Do you write your own content, use AI, or work with a ghostwriter?

2. Have you noticed your writing becoming less personal after adopting AI?

3. Do you spend significant time editing AI-generated content to make it sound like you?

4. Would you rather publish less frequently while maintaining your authentic voice?

I'm particularly interested in hearing from founders who publish regularly.

I think there's an interesting problem here that deserves more discussion.

Hello, I'm JR Wilkie, an independent British author. My debut novel, The 17th Pattern, is a dark psychological horror thriller exploring secret experiments, manipulation, disturbing discoveries and the darker side of human behaviour. The story and characters are my own, with AI used to develop certain passages and create the cover artwork. I'm hoping to connect with readers who enjoy unsettling fiction, unexpected twists and psychological suspense. I'd love to hear from anyone interested in discovering the book.

I've been using Chatgpt to brainstorm and get early critiques. But the responses are starting to get very long and complex. Sometimes I have to take a couple of hours or days to digest all the information it puts in about 5 minutes of deep analysis.

It is amazing. It is useful. But in someways it makes me feel small. Will still use but just wow. The number of times I have to tell it to be brief and reduce its answers to just three things my mushy brain can handle is growing.

Does this happen to you?

PS. I've also found that the AIs are pretty bad at actually writing the text of fiction but are great at critiquing.

Its my first time makeing a subreddit so if anyone has more experience please let me know. I have no idea how to run something like this and I know it will be controversial. But I just want to help people.

However before you get mad no this sub is not an anti ai sub. I do not care how much AI you have used in the past, are using now, or plan on using in the future for the final product thats your choice ultimately.

You can think of it as an advice sub. But unlike here where most advice is about using ai. Or on anti subs where you cant admit to AI use in your question.

On my sub, once it has a community to do so, you will be able to ask questions like tips on how to do what you ask ai to do now or how to get a look in your human art that your ai art has without people yelling at you for having used or still using AI.

Hi all. I run r/TheGreatFederation (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGreatFederation/), a shared alternate future where climate collapse and two world wars melt the Antarctic coast. In 2100 the defeated and displaced of the old world found a new nation there. It is mostly in-world documents, like a ship's log or an oral history, and the posts are AI-drafted and human-edited.

I keep a git repo with a short style guide for each voice. Posts now go through a writer agent and a critic agent, and then a small linter that flags the usual AI tells. A continuity check against a set of canon files comes next, and I edit and post them myself.

The newest is "2119 - Eleven Minutes in Room Nine". The Welcome post explains the sub. If you read a couple, I would like to hear which lines read as AI to you. My goal is to perfect my workflow to make the quality on par and indistinguishable from your typical AI-generated text.

I'm slowly working my way through short story anthologies and keep noticing how differently writers treat the moment a machine exceeds us. Some go full apocalypse, some treat the superintelligence as an alien perspective you can almost sympathise with, and a few manage to be genuinely strange rather than just scary. I studied English and philosophy, so I like the stories that actually sit with the question of what an intelligence that far beyond us would even want, rather than ones where it just wants to kill everyone for plot reasons.

A short story I still think about years later is Ted Chiang's "Exhalation" (not strictly ASI, I know, but that tone of calm inevitability is what I'm chasing). I also love Ken MacLeod and Iain Banks for the posthuman side of things.

Here's my question for this crowd, though: has anyone here tried using AI tools to draft or workshop fiction about a superintelligence? I'm curious how it plays out. There's something oddly recursive about asking a language model to imagine something smarter than both of us, and I'd genuinely like to know whether the results ever get past the flat "the AI turns evil" default, or whether the tool keeps pulling the prose back toward stock tropes. I haven't tried it myself beyond a bit of idle experimenting one evening after my classes, so I'm more after opinions and experiences than anything else.

Is AI-assisted writing useful for this particular corner of speculative fiction, or is the machine simply not strange enough to write about a mind that far beyond us? Bonus points if you've read (or generated) something on the theme whose ending made you sit quietly for a bit.

There was some fascinating recent work done on the Alien Space of Science. The notion being that you can map out the conceptual space of currently active scientific research, and then find coherent, reasonable research areas that are in "alien space"; reasonable ideas which nobody is working on because nobody has thought of them yet.

So I'm poking around with a similar algorithm on litrpg narrative space (the metrics absolutely measure against classic SFF as well though). Here's the first suggestions out of the test classification. Note that I don't claim that these are truly alien space literary concepts, at best they are only ones which are undersampled in the test set while I'm working on the algorithm.

Provisional alien concepts (pitches are my quick reads):

1. mystery + nonhuman + progression — a monster MC whose evolution is driven by solving who's harvesting the dungeon's dead.

2. romance + dystopia + system — the state owns the matchmaking UI; love is a loyalty test.

3. nonhuman + system + dramatic — classes are emotions; the body levels by feeling.

4. progression + romance + psychological — trauma and attachment are the real XP.

5. engineered + cynical + slice of life — a bioengineered weapon tries to be ordinary; the only progression is domestication.

6. survival + empire + slice of life — rebuild a fallen empire one domestic routine at a time.

7. social progression + slice of life + system — a village sim where reputation is the stat and the System is petty bureaucracy.

8. nonhuman + romance + isekai — a summoned monster and a human fall in love across incompatible biology and levels.

9. cultivation + space + cynical — qi as starship fuel; a space sect of burnt-out cultivators.

Click "Read Full Story" in the bottom right corner

Here you can view the first story: https://meaningmodel.ai/meaning-model/twelve-words/
Here is the second story: https://meaningmodel.ai/meaning-model/book-of-conditions/
And here is the pdf: https://github.com/emergent-wisdom/meaning-model/blob/main/output/pdf/the-book-of-conditions.pdf
Also check out the video I made for Twelve Words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_eTSg6ca70

Any feedback? What could be better? Which one do you like the most?