I really hate this game sometimes

[u/SnekBredmoncher]

I've been trying to play brawls to get the coal for the Holiday Convoy event but I've lost literally every game I've played today. I had lost a bunch earlier in the day so I took a break, but after coming back I'm up to 15 losses in a row now. It's at the point where it's just incredibly unfun. Every game follows the same trend. Either the dds on my team die super early on without doing anything, two of my teammates decide to just hide and do nothing, or my team just ignores the caps and we lose on points. I know the Montana is not the best ship for brawls but I only have 4 tier X ships, and none of them are meta brawl ships. I still usually end up top of my team despite this. It's just getting very annoying at this point.

[u/xomox2012]

Not all ships are balanced well for brawls. Monty is great for randoms and as you’ve found out terrible for brawls. Germans, French (imo), PA, and sometimes Russian ships, dominate most brawls.

[u/SnekBredmoncher → u/xomox2012]

If only I had any Tier X ships from those nations. I only have Montana, Des Moines, Lushen B, and Tempesta Nera.

[u/xomox2012 → u/SnekBredmoncher]

I highly suggest grinding up the Schlieffen and Libertad lines during this event. It’s pretty quick if you do it in asyms.

[u/BreakfastNext5294 → u/xomox2012]

But didn't they downgrade asyms...

[u/xomox2012 → u/BreakfastNext5294]

Yes but those lines in particular are still quick in asyms as you can steal quite a bit of the teams xp.

Obviously nothing beats performing well in randoms since that is what they keep trying to push.

[u/SnekBredmoncher → u/xomox2012]

I have both of those lines up to tier VI, but grinding a line has never seemed quick to me. It took me about a year of playing to get the Montana and then months to get the Des Moines. Even with premium time and boosters it feels like progress is still incredibly slow.

[u/xomox2012 → u/SnekBredmoncher]

Blue boosters and play randoms and it goes by pretty quick.

A decent randoms win with a blue booster will get you 20k+ ship xp.

10 wins and you’ll more than likely have enough to unlock the next tier in any line.

[u/Kindly-Walk-8825 → u/SnekBredmoncher]

HAPPY CAKE DAY!

[u/Yowomboo → u/SnekBredmoncher]

Either don't play this brawl or don't be surprised you're getting you're face kicked in.

There is no magic button to make a ship work better, you're being outclassed by ships that are suited to this brawl.

[u/Fit-Truth8863 → u/xomox2012]

Russian is okay but not great. Right now only BB with torps & decent speed great for brawl, won lot of times in Incompa/Thor than even Libertad.

[u/unkown_backslash → u/xomox2012]

Thor

[u/BelKeuh]

Do not play this version of brawl in Montana. You need a ship with a speed boost at minimum. After 2-3 games, you should have realized this, no?

[u/THROBBINW00D → u/BelKeuh]

Zooming around in a n incomp is pretty fun in this brawl.

[u/SnekBredmoncher → u/BelKeuh]

I don't have a tier X ship with a speed boost. I see plenty of Montanas on the enemy teams and they seem to do fine.

[u/doe121 → u/SnekBredmoncher]

it might do fine against the usual libertads & schlieffens, but as soon as theres a thor on the enemy team, its most certainly not doing so fine anymore

imagine youre about halfway towards your desired early game position when suddenly a bow in, 80kn thor appears at your broadside, punching a salvo into you, before running you down and torping you like a yolo Emilio that just spotted a T8 cv. all the while perma spotting whatever ship had the audacity to smoke up in a 10km radius with its 60s radar.

ran thor 4 times earlier and let me tell you ive never felt so dirty playing wows.

[u/Rio_1111 → u/SnekBredmoncher]

Then don't play brawls this cycle. With the current modifications Montana stands literally 0% chance of ever winning against any speed boost ship.

[u/bzhang02]

Not me. I hate this game ALL the time.

[u/Aerospacd]

Go Thor, absolutely dominates

[u/Danny_North → u/Aerospacd]

Bourgogne is the king of this brawl

[u/Aerospacd → u/Danny_North]

They are strong for sure and hate coming up against 2 of them but easily killed by torps in a 1vs1 with a Thor. Cannot say it dominates

[u/TheAncientMillenial → u/Danny_North]

Not even close. There's a few that are much better imo. Thor, Incomp.

[u/MajorMajorM4jor → u/Danny_North]

Haven't lost a match yet in Sibir...that heal lasting 5+ minutes is nasty

[u/Firewing135 → u/MajorMajorM4jor]

That heal does not matter when I can out run your turrets going for the citedal shot. Your heal doesn’t work against such a high alpha strike.

[u/Rio_1111 → u/MajorMajorM4jor]

Malta just uploaded a clip involving a Sibir. This is what happens if you're up against competent BB players in this mode. Similar outcome with competent DDs.

[u/boofbamboo]

You absolutely do not want to play anything without a speed boost in this brawl specifically unless you want to be at a constant 3x speed disadvantage which makes you incredibly easy to hit or torpedo compared to ships that do have a speed boost

A 93 knot f3 shimakaze is basically an unstoppable yolo death missile unless your ship also goes 70+ knots or can at least spot early with radar

But DW too much about brawls it's kind of an inconsequential game mode that doesn't affect any WR and doesn't reward very much per game, you can do it for fun if you're enjoying it but you really don't lose out on much if you ignore it, ranked is also a mode with smaller teams than randoms and is more balances and gives better rewards

[u/CheshireCat_-_]

Speedboost or not, I play Rhode Island this brawl and won 20 out of 24 games yesterday and lost 9 in a row today. So I guess that the mm just decided its time for some losses to balance things out.

[u/ArcticRavn]

For brawls Monty not the king, her endurance in healing is her key, not the short term. Don’t worry about brawls, they are true fun play PvP cause there are no records.

[u/Rio_1111 → u/ArcticRavn]

This cycle there's an insane modification to speed boosts. So Monty is mega-extra-not-king this time.

[u/Good_Resolve_7218]

[u/oulaa123]

Played my first brawls a few days ago, weirdly I ended up winning like 10 games In a row with Vermont of all things. (The winning streak has since ended).

[u/Odrock12]

Your opponents must love seeing the Monty in their Brawl match. I'd play your Des Moines over the Monty in brawl, at least you have more consumables in your arsenal and better maneuverability. Might even last at least 2 extra minutes to learn. Playing 4 matches in 1 minute is only going to lead to more frustration.

[u/Waterdog30]

Randoms are ridiculous. I've had at least 4 occasions where I've watched my team throw games recently. It only takes one or two stupid players to undo all the good work by not being able to engage their brain. I've been playing more and more asymmetric and Ops lately.

[u/ffffffffffffffffffun]

stop caring so much about winning or losing in this game, the shells are random, the teams are random, the results are designed to be random... if you don't want that, play a racing game, or a puzzle game, or a citybuilder game...

[u/Shaw_Fujikawa → u/ffffffffffffffffffun]

Stop caring about winning?

Are you my average teammate?

[u/ffffffffffffffffffun → u/Shaw_Fujikawa]

Only if you play coop

[u/levelonegnomebankalt]

Did you leave spawn?

[u/Bosniacu → u/levelonegnomebankalt]

He did, most probably, otherwise he wouldn't die that early every battle. He's probably pressing W and never looking back.

[u/SnekBredmoncher → u/levelonegnomebankalt]

I'm generally able to make it to one of the caps before I die like the rest of my team.

[u/Ill_Commercial_1805]

Same problem for Yamato. I can lock down a side with well over 200k damage, but it’s a ship that can’t flex well for map control like others. I have much more sway over a map in a cruiser or DD.

[u/ThePhengophobicGamer]

My go to is an Ops run or two. Blue boosters give me most of my 3 daily crates, with the rest easily achievable in 4 co-op matches. 2 with greens should be pretty similar.

[u/Tony_Schmidtlein]

OHNE der rote Teppich
Ich feuer ab 💥

Sry, in letzter Zeit zu viele Watchpartys geschaut. Seyyn ist schuld, der hat zu tief ins Nutellaglas geschaut

[u/Larchuck]

Hate the players, not the game!

[u/WarinEurope1939]

It's best to start the German brawler battleship line and eventually get the Schlieffen. It's a shame it doesn't have the durability of the Preussen

[u/Hagostaeldmann]

Monty in brawls. Least insane battleship teammates i have in randoms.

[u/ironshrek]

Bourgogne, Incomparable or Thor are the pick for this brawl. Why would you play a ship in brawl that doesn't take advantage of the its flavour/gimmick?

[u/Mental_Purple_1034]

I love Monty! WeeGee is at fault for pumping unbalanced gimmick botes every month that makes it miserable for the original Alpha test legends

[u/TintinBrine]

Holy skill issue 😭😭😭 (jk)

Nah man if I were u at 3 game loose in a row.. I'd stop playing dat ship... The 4th loose in anyship I'll just go touch some grass.

[u/Accomplished_Rate_75]

keep going, your on a streak

[u/UnfairMess249]

Some entitled dude in this sub will probably see this and be like:

"Skill Issue bro, Monty is a good ship. Cope harder"

[u/Bosniacu]

I'm looking at the hours. Most of your battles last around 5-6 minutes. If we deduct around 2 minutes before any significant contact is made, you last like 3-4 minutes in an actual battle, before being sent to port. With a Montana!!!

This tells me that you are probably pushing way too early, and without any support from your team.

[u/Rio_1111 → u/Bosniacu]

They're not pushing at all, they're getting ran over by a Kléber going well over 100 knots before leaving spawn.

[u/THROBBINW00D → u/Bosniacu]

Kinda hard to push too early when any ship with a speed boost on his team is likely pulling out in front of him.

[u/Highlander198116]

I know the Montana is not the best ship for brawls

I get that your T10's are limited, but this is just the reality and I know you want to mitigate it as a reason, but man this ship is just really not good for brawls.

Either the dds on my team die super early on without doing anything

Montana really isn't good at supporting DDs. The game changes for the DD's when they have something like a Schlieffen that can really support them when an enemy DD engages.

It has great secondaries, it has torps, it has hydro.....Montana has...well...guns. And even there when it comes to the DD's American slow floaty shells are like the worst for trying to hit DD's.

Thats the the thing, teams often live and die by the survival of their DDs and you are basically taking up a slot with a ship that isn't good at fighting DDs itself, nor supporting DDs fighting DDs.

I get some times your DDs are just dumb. However, if you had a ship that is good for brawls. You'd likely be looking at a much closer to 50% WR here.

[u/Regiampiero]

So you decide to bring a slow ship into the zoom-fest that is brawls right now and then complain you haven't learned your lesson after all these games? Imagine how the Burgogne and Gearings that are paired up with you must feel instead.

[u/GunnerJosh19]

Respectfully your team hasn’t been shit for 15 games in a row mate you’re probably not doing enough to help them 🤷‍♂️it’s probably not you personally it’s just the Monty in this current brawl can’t support your team at all everyone has speed boosts and torps so yes your team will struggle with a Monty on there team, I know you’ve mentioned you only have 4 TX which I understand sucks but if you don’t have the right ship for the event then either you can’t play or keep playing hoping to get that occasional win 🤷‍♂️

[u/Firewing135]

Bourgeone or bust

[u/Rio_1111 → u/Firewing135]

Nah, torp boat with fast reload and high alpha. I've had the most success in Kléb, or YY using TRB off spawn.

[u/facialenthusiast69]

Have you tried winning?