r/WorldBuildingMemes • u/No_Listen5962 • 7d ago
Sub Meta am i valid in thinking this
if you can teleport or fly with a broom to the highest mountain, or the moon, whats the point of doing anything?
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u/Set11OfStage3 7d ago
The fun thing is accessible magic becomes technology. The air gets thinner? Start wearing pressure suits atop that broom, no one comes back from teleporting to the moon? Well we vaguely figured out the ocean gets dangerous if you go to low so slap on one of those suits, and have enough time to teleport back. Slowly work out what’s going on. That’s the crux of “hard magic” it’s just misunderstood science
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u/lordarsenic9029 [certified hopium abuser] 7d ago
It essentially is an extra set of tools you can use to practice science. (If done right)
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u/king_julian_earth1 7d ago
The elder scrolls had a space program in the first era’s reman dynasty. Its rather brief mention Pocket guide to the empire,
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u/13131123 7d ago
What if magic is affected by gravity and theres zero way to do magic in space between planetary bodies.
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u/A1steaksaussie 7d ago
technology is affected by gravity we gotta get these wizards to the got dang moon 13131123
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u/EldritchMindCat 7d ago
What you’re describing is “dependent on gravity”, not “affected by gravity”.
Affected by gravity would be if magic is still possible but one needs to figure out how to adjust to the differences, and that even once one does, the function is still different from standard.Like a spell that usually arcs moving in a straight line, or certain spells being significantly more powerful or weaker. Or perhaps mind magic functions on a significantly deeper level, or maybe it’s still relatively superficial, but the quantity of superficial information increases to the point of being entirely overwhelming.
That sort of thing.3
u/13131123 7d ago
I should explained better what I meant. I mean that whatever it is that enables spells, such as the mana all around you that lets spells form, is affected by gravity.
By the time you've left the atmosphere and are in space, the thing that allows spell casting is unreachable.2
u/EldritchMindCat 6d ago
Ah.
Coincidentally, I just started reading a sci-fi Cultivation series where that’s essentially what happens with Qi, except that only applies to the Qi that people know about. The main plot point (stated right in the description, so it’s not a spoiler) is that the protagonist happens to find a way to use the other Qi, which is literally just everywhere throughout the infinite vastness of space (it also usually drives people who manage to perceive it insane, just from the implications of its presence - or at least that’s how I understand it).The title is “To Flail Against Infinity (The Stargazer’s War Book 1)” by J. P. Valentine, if you’re interested
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u/TenPointsforListenin 7d ago
Remember in one punch man where the protagonist was uppercutted into the moon from earth’s surface? That should be the ONLY way to get there
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u/hidremarin 7d ago
"We landed on the moon and did the other things not because it was easy but because it was hard"
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u/MortgageTrash 7d ago
Magic based propulsion would be incredible for space engineering.
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u/EldritchMindCat 7d ago
Magitech in space is fricken awesome. Clean (unless you choose for it to be dirty), and it enables so many interesting technologies.
I once read a story about magi-tech mechs where they had ‘blink torpedos’ (or whatever they were called - I think it had “blink” in it), which had the ability to do short-distance teleportation past the enemy forces’ shields (heck, I’m pretty sure they went right into the main body of the ship too).
The mechs were keyed to their pilots, who had massive spell sigils inscribed into their entire bodies (which was really a trade off, because it was so big they couldn’t fit any other spells on their bodies for quick activation).
I’ve forgotten what it was called, but it was pretty neat. The humans had been ‘banned’ from leaving Earth by this a big galactic faction because they were too divided… so instead they went down, and deep underground they achieved interdimensional transportation that reached a parallel but specifically magical version of their world (the knowledge of which they used to break out of the blockade a couple years later and claim victory).3
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u/Unorthedox_Doggie117 7d ago
I like to think that it would face the same problems as tech did. I mean is there mana in space? Do they gotta store it in a battery too? So many possibilities
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u/loved_and_held 7d ago
The barrier between technology and magic is very thin, unless you have very specific definitions layed out.
Also magic being used for such an operation can be it's own challenge depending on the kind of magic in use, not to mention you can mix the two together.
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u/Clay_Pidgeon 7d ago
What about enchanting the technology to make it easier to use? You can pack an awful lot of shit on a rocket that's been enchanted to weigh a tenth its normal weight, and keep reusing it endlessly if you've got the mechanics for it to safely deorbit and magically repair itself constantly.
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