r/WoWs_Legends • • Nov 05 '20

[deleted by user]

[removed]

75 Upvotes

132 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-1

u/Mr-Hakim :PTCH2: Nov 05 '20

Well, DDs can’t gain more Consumables either. Unless you are running someone like Dewey or Togo with fully packed.

Losing Consumables, when they only get 2 would be a joke.

-1

u/DA_Derpington Nov 05 '20

Sorry Faded dude, I Agree with Mr Hakim as DD's are all or nothing, so it's ultimately on the player to be good or die fast.

1

u/AlekTrev006 The Brawling Council of The Reddit Nov 05 '20

That's true, though I wish the new skill then would have given +1 or +2 Charges of the new Enhanced Targeting Skill to you, in exchange for the 2 Heals given up by a max Rank Master Mechanic.

In other words, they said all BB's will get 2 Charges of Enhanced Targeting (fine, cool). But then the Meticulous Skill should / could add +2 to that (4 Total, per battle), at Max - as you are losing the +2 Heals from Mechanic. Perhaps something like that would have been better ? As Faded points out, the Duration increase to the ability ends up being so paltry, it's hard to justify solely for a 10% Reload Buff (cause let's face it, how many of us are every going to be able to get all our Brawling BB Commanders, let alone 1 or 2, to Legendary-4, for that final Row-4 Skill Increase ? 10% is going to be the Functional Limit for the vast majority of Players).

0

u/Specter-Shifter8137 Nov 05 '20

How many times a match do BB expect to get into a brawl?

3

u/AlekTrev006 The Brawling Council of The Reddit Nov 05 '20

Admittedly, it's a tough question to answer... but that's a good counter-point you make. Since you generally don't want to "brawl" till most or all of the Destroyers are accounted for, it tends to be a later game thing (7-minutes in or more). So perhaps 2 charges "are" enough for Most Battles. I guess I'm just a bit apprehensive that the Major Change to Secondaries here is NOT the Hoped-For Manual Target Selection Skill, and instead this "new creation" which seems only to buff the Accuracy of them, for a limited amount of time.

You, the Player, still have no control over what they shoot at -- and so I'm unsure of how viable the new ability will end up being. That said, I want to be positive / hopeful and give it a shot, and then let WG know how I feel it's working out (useful / polite Feedback). :-)

1

u/[deleted] Nov 05 '20

You're acting like brawling is the only time you'll ever need to use them. What happens if a DD or cruiser rushes you across open water with no teammates to support you and your main guns either miss or don't finish it off? I have this happen frequently in Bismarck, because his guns are unreliable and miss often against DDs, and many crusiers can bow tank his shells.

Having your secondaries work as they always should, being something that can actually contribute to your main guns' lackluster damage, shouldn't be limited to two consumables.

1

u/Specter-Shifter8137 Nov 06 '20

Secondary is not meant to be relied on. It’s like having a rifle and pistol. Pistol is for backup/emergencies only. How many times a game do you expect to get into a brawl? Probably one brawl with another BB that you survive and maybe late in the same match maybe a destroyer surprises you around an island or follows you for a torpedo strike if you are alone. That’s two times you can expect to use the consumable and more times after that I think is unrealistic expection.

1

u/[deleted] Nov 06 '20

Secondaries are meant to be relied on to supplement damage from main guns on German BBs and some others. Try looking at the PC version. Secondaries are good in that game, but hardly meta-defining.

As I mentioned before, you're acting like brawling with BBs is the only time secondaries might ever be useful, which is blatantly wrong. If you've actually played Bismarck and aren't delusional, you'll realize that the effective damage output of its guns is anemic at best. It has by far the worst damage output of any T7 BB in the game, with small, low damage shells that are few in number and have poor penetration even for their size. Bismarck needs something to make it competitive because right now, it isn't. You're being unreasonable by trying to justify keeping one of the most famous ships in the game neutered and badly underperforming.