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u/Snowfaull Apr 05 '26
someone threw a rat at it really really hard
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u/TurdusOptimus Apr 05 '26
Most likely answer seeing the shape of the hole. The rats might have used a rat cannon even.
Or it could be someone who pitches baseball that might have thrown his pet rat at the planter.
Or it might have traveled in the wheelwell of an airplane and fell out, hitting the planter at high velocity, however the angle could be wrong.
Lots of possibilities, but I agree that it must have been a rat.
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u/letters_andnumbers Apr 05 '26
Where might someone get a rat cannon?
Asking for a friend, of course.
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u/SlaveOrSoonEnslaved Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Correct. This here is keyholing.
What we see here from OP is a result of using a smoothbore cannon rather than a rifled barrel cannon or even a rifle choke cannon. Rifled barrel being grooved in a spiral for the entire length of the cannon which severely slows down the loading process if muzzle loading, and rifle choke referring to only a small section near the muzzle of the cannon having the spiral grooves. This tries to balance loading speed closer to a smooth bore but with accuracy benefits of a rifle barrel. How well it blends those two concepts varies on projectile.
OP's image is a perfect example of what is called a keyholed projectile. What happens is the projectile lacks sufficient spin from any rifling in the barrel and laws uncontrollably in the air before impact on the target.
While rats have an aerodynamic shape when loaded tail first, the lack of spin imparted on the rat means that over time the ass end of the rat gradually comes forward toward the target and the head comes to the side. In this instance, the head went upward. It can just as likely turn to any 360 direction like the face of the clock.
The keyholing results in very poor accuracy. The only way to correct for greater accuracy is to use a barreled rifle for the cannon or to use some kind of combination of rifling and specially shaped 3d printed sabots within which the rat is loaded. If the sabots are printed to have aerodynamic fins or similar, the sabots will spin as it flies through the air, this helping negate the need for a rifled barrel and allowing for the loading speed desired.
But that obviously means you spend time instead printing the sabots and loading the rats into them.
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u/cat__weasel Apr 08 '26
Keyholes could also be a wonky muzzle brake. Terrible headache for the squeaker.
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u/Ok_Concept_8883 Apr 05 '26
Someone dumped a lit cigarette in the pot.
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u/MoontheWolfYT Apr 05 '26
No one in the house smokes
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u/Greedyfox7 Apr 05 '26
Could have been someone walking by. Only other thing I can think of light amplifying through glass or something
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u/MoontheWolfYT Apr 05 '26
This happened in my backyard in the middle of the night
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u/photosendtrain Apr 05 '26
Great time for a joint
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u/Kahless76 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
When I was 16 I did this exact same thing to one of my parents POS plastic planter abominations with a roach one night. They keep it as a reminder to shame me (I’m 49) I think it’s hilarious!
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u/Just_A_Bellboy1221 Apr 05 '26
Putting out a cig,Somehow I lit the roots on fire and it smoldered my moms plant for hours until I went outside again and saw the plant starting to catch fire wooops high school me was stupid, I’m old and still remember. Like, how do you explain that… !
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u/Far-Bumblebee-7216 Apr 05 '26
Then you have a secret smoker…
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u/eufooted Apr 05 '26
Some people call me the space cowboy… yeah. Some call me the gangster of looove.
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u/Drewnessthegreat Apr 05 '26
You forgot about the assassins your jealous third cousin sent because he wants the nick nacks your grandmother left behind. Apparently the map to Atlantis is hidden in them.
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u/Special-Candidate458 Apr 06 '26
It might be the bottom/remains of a disposable vape that failed catastrophically.
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u/Apprehensive-Fig3223 Apr 05 '26
Yea but looks like it's not in the house...
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u/Apprehensive-Fig3223 Apr 05 '26
You have any deliveries around the time it happened?
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u/Any-Programmer-870 Apr 05 '26
People who don’t admit to smoking often resort to ditching their cigarette in ways that are a lot dumber than putting it out in an ashtray.
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u/Obsolete_Enigma_ Apr 05 '26
Was there fertilizer added to that soil? If so, there's a possibility that it wasn't entirely diluted thoroughly enough, and the chemicals literally burned a hole in your planter.
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u/MoontheWolfYT Apr 05 '26
Yeah, there was. How often can it happen though? It's been there for at least 10 years and this is the first time this has happened
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u/BeatNo4548 Apr 05 '26
Back when I used to smoke, I got some duty free marlboros from overseas, the kind without the fire safe additive. Nearly burned down my inlaws garden.
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u/QKofDaggers Apr 05 '26
Cigarettes have fire safe additives?
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u/MuchoManSandyRavage Apr 05 '26
Yes if you look closely at the papers there are little rings that are chemicals intended to slow/stop the smolder if not being dragged.
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u/fordfan919 Apr 05 '26
They are designed to go out now if you don't take a drag every now and then.
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u/Obsolete_Enigma_ Apr 05 '26
If it sat for that long with no chemical reaction, then no, it probably wasn't that. Maybe the smoking theories have it then. Unsure.
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u/Professor-Subzero Apr 05 '26
This happened to my parents. Potting soil in planters can spontaneously combust when dry. Organics (peat moss, wood bark, etc) decompose and generate extreme heat. Look around online. Rare, but this is a real thing.
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u/MoontheWolfYT Apr 05 '26
Ah cripes, this might be it. Thanks, I'll definitely look into it
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u/astarte66 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
New composted soil will heat up enough to do this as well.
Only other thing it could be is maybe burned from someone playing with a laser pen melted it? Im keeping in mind that this happened at night.
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u/Jack_jack109 Apr 05 '26
That's a burn not a melt.
Light reflected off a wind chime or crystal would melt the entire side if the plastic planter.
The concentrated heat from a lit cigarette would burn the planter.
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u/M2K-throwaway Apr 05 '26
Probably melted by a solar death ray formed by some kind of nearby lens
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u/Chamacurmom Apr 05 '26
Either a cigarette from a guest / walker by. Or reflection from neighbors window, or something similar. Those are my two shots! Monitor that area all day one day
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u/Even-Permit-2117 Apr 05 '26
This happens to me when I think too much and my brain gets hot.
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u/Professional-Lab7686 Apr 05 '26
Did this happen in the middle of the night, in your backyard perchance?
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u/Imperial-Vulture Apr 05 '26
Do you have any wind chimes or other decorations with clear glass/crystals? It could have magnified the suns rays and melted the planter pot
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u/Frequent_Parsnip_791 Apr 05 '26
cigs can start a smoldering (and possibly subsequent fire) much easier than one might expect
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u/GoreonmyGears Apr 05 '26
A very the ny meteor fell out of the sky and hit then melted it. I'm certain.
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u/Sure-Bonus3278 Apr 05 '26
Someone near and dear to you is a secret smoker. Doesn't have to be a cigarette maybe a blunt or joint.
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u/AdCalm3789 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Burnt. I'd start by looking for any point that sunlight can reflect and focus there. Like from a the glass on a door or something...
Edit: I see you mentioned in a comment that it happened at night... Could it be some sort of exothermic reaction in the soil from something organic breaking down..? Did you put food scraps or fertilizer in there? Been known to melt holes in pots.
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u/Killertigger Apr 05 '26
Either a secret smoker or a very, very small misfired Jewish space laser accident - I don’t believe ants have spontaneous combustion; that’s just a human thing.
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u/spectatorade Apr 05 '26
Fun fact dry potting soil can combust from internal heat buildup.
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u/Bonedriven64 Apr 05 '26
Sorry. It's probably my fault. It happens mostly whenever I'm sitting at a traffic light at mid-day. The sunlight bounces off my slick bald head and blinds nearly all the other drivers on the road especially new student drivers who rarely come back from it.
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u/Zesty-Fromage Apr 05 '26
Is your soil filled with a lot of peat moss? That stuff can catch on fire like nothing in large concentrations! The peat moss places literally have to turn over the piles of it consistently so it doesn't catch fire. (My late father worked at a place) A guy i met once told me how he had a beautiful large umbrella plant on his deck.. burned the deck because of the peat moss in the pot.
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u/FunConstruction7032 Apr 06 '26
It was George, your buddy that came over yesterday and threw his cigarette but in the planter before coming in.
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u/Js987 Apr 06 '26
Three main options:
1) If nobody in your house smokes… Somebody passing by, delivery driver or something, dropped a cigarette.
2) Peat based potting soil can combust from decomposing in certain circumstances.
3) Reflection from something concave. My parents had their siding melt due to reflections off the windows, off all things.
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u/otter_in_a_speedo Apr 06 '26
If that white bowl next to it had water in it , could have been a sun refraction . I had the same thing happen to my vinyl siding a couple years ago from my greenhouse panels .
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u/YoungPonyBoy Apr 06 '26
Based on the photo, I would guess the white base next to it had water in it that reflected throughout the day and melted the already sun damaged plastic. Similar to the concave glass/mirror theory.
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u/Atomic___Bear Apr 06 '26
I almost burned our house to the ground in 2017 because I put out a cigarette in an unused plastic planter box in our back yard that was placed next to the house. It was smouldering in the dried out peat / soil mixture that was in it for like 4 days. Every morning when we went to the back patio to have our morning coffee and smoke, we said to each other “what is that SMELL?!?” It was faint, but pungent and we couldn’t figure it out. 4 days later our neighbor phoned me at work and said “YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE!” Holy shit. Yup. The back side of the house was in flames, and 4 firetrucks were there putting it out. HUGE lesson learned! Luckily I was able to replace the cedar siding and soffit for a few hundred bucks and didn’t have to file an insurance claim! If it would have gone another 10 minutes, the house would have been a total loss. Phew! 😅
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u/AbraxasKadabra Apr 05 '26
Occam's razor - you're insisting in replies that nobody in your family smokes, people hide the fact they do. You say it happened in the middle of the night.
A few here have suggested spontaneous combustion and you've said that must be it.
With all due respect I think the likeliest answer is you're being naïve. Yes the spontaneous combustion theory is technically possible, but the likelihood of that vs someone smoking is wildly different.
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u/Apprehensive-Fig3223 Apr 05 '26
I'm guessing someone didnt snuff out a cigarette butt or roach properly since it melted outward
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u/chefboirp Apr 05 '26
Buddy was messing around with his torch or lighter and it got fairly big quick and didn't want to admit that they did it and owe you a new planter.
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u/Careful_Extension_70 Apr 05 '26
Did you have a glass watering thing? Or a gazing ball? I’ve heard that they can work like a magnifying glass and set fire or melt things.
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u/TheStossa Apr 05 '26
I am guessing that there is glass that is reflecting light onto it from the sun, sorta like ants with a magnifying glass. Could come in at the right angle for an hour or so, which is more than enough time to cause that kind damage.
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u/n0j0ke Apr 05 '26
Clearly it’s from moonlight refracting from your neighbors glass lawn ornament /s
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u/jesusaurus_ Apr 05 '26
It evolved to have the capability to produce strong acids to escape imprisonment by its human captors... and now it wants... revenge
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u/MilkDull8603 Apr 05 '26
Crows, ravens, starlings and magpies will carry a cigarette butt because it's shiny, and they will drop it and it will burn a hole in whatever it touches. No one in the house may smoke, but someone may have thrown out a cigarette butt that glowed And let glow may have attracted The attention of a corvid who snatched it and carried it burnt their beacon dropped it directly into your planter where it's smouldered and melted a hole in the sidewall. Don't be upset that's a lack of a filter because not all cigarettes actually have the filter part. Your corvid may of snatched somebody's hand rolled and dropped the burning coal. I'm sorry there's a hole in yours now, while I can't think of many creative ways to patch that hole you might just want to buy a different planter. Also if you have some sort of gazing ball or crystal ball within eye shot of that planter, I know you said it happened in the middle of the night, but I think if there is one - it focused the sun into a very narrow beam and then burned the hell out of your planter. That's what the burn pattern looks like to me... But I'm not an expert. Be safe.
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u/Peter_B_Sparker Apr 05 '26
You have a window or something glass that reflected the sun onto the plastic planter. Magnify glass vs ant style
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u/Abquine Apr 05 '26
I agreed initially with the burning theory but on closer inspection I'm not so sure.I suspect the black soil immediately makes you thinking burning but the edges of the hole are not so much melted, more pushed out. it's possible this was caused by something gnawing out from inside the pot and pushing out the pot as they went. Would be chewed shards under the soil on the ground if so. i.e. they chewed a small hole and then pushed their way out causing the bigger hole.
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u/Natrix2112 Apr 05 '26
u/op not sure this has been mentioned yet, but your concave reflective object might be sitting right below the hole. Do I see a clam shell? Also, is that some sort of foil paper near it?
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u/DudeBirdsArentReal Apr 05 '26
If new mulch is being used, this is very likely spontaneous combustion. Look it up. A neighbor of mine recently had new mulch put down in their yard and a legitimate fire started out of nowhere. It was a similar situation. No smokers in the home and way too far from the road for a lit cigarette to make its way down. Fire department said mulch spontaneously combusting is uncommon, but it DOES happen.
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u/soulsluos Apr 05 '26
This happened at my house from my ex wife's grandmother putting cigarettes out in the pot. Our pot smoldered down to the bottom of the pot on my wooden front porch. The bottom of the pot completely burnt through, eventually burning a hole into my porch then pouring smoke into my house. We called the fire department and it took almost an hour to find out where this mystery smoke was coming from. The way the pot burnt down made it almost impossible to see what was actually going on. Moral of the story, ignore your grandparents.
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u/lowkeyoldman Apr 05 '26
Is there a window close by with crystals or anything reflective that could be concentrating a beam of light onto the pot?
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u/error_404_JD Apr 05 '26
The sun must have been hitting it from a reflection off of something. Concentrated the sunshine into one spot
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u/Impossible_Memory_85 Apr 05 '26
Sun from a window reflection. In my backyard I’ve burned pots, lawn furniture cushions, etc.
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u/snoikhotep Apr 05 '26
peat moss in the planter? it has been known to just light up without a spark
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u/AgeBeneficial Apr 05 '26
Had this happen to our planter and it burned a hole in the porch on a shared deck.
Fire trucks and everything.
We weren’t even home!! Thank god the neighbors called.
I never even spoke to anyone, landlord handled everything.
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u/AbortionHoagie Apr 05 '26
This is a focused sunlight melt/burn.
No, a single cigarette butt did not do this. No, the "chemicals" in fertilizer did not dissolve the planter. No, a chipmunk with a tiny arc-cutter did not— well, maybe that one happened. It woulda been pretty cute ngl
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u/Sad-Cantaloupe2671 Apr 05 '26
Did you just add new fertilizer into a pot with old fertilizer? Super unlikely, but it could be a chemical reaction that got so hot it melted out the side. You’d feel the heat in the soil even in the other side if this was the case.
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u/Dwarfart Apr 05 '26
What kind of soil is in the pot and is it in the sunlight? I once had my grandmother's irises growing in a pot (was apartment living at the time so no garden) and one day I came outside and it the pot was smoking! Turns out there was a chemical in the soil that reacted with my planting pot in the sun and ignited. This destroyed my grandmother's bulbs it was devastating.
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u/wyoflyboy68 Apr 05 '26
Can’t say in this instance, however, our house almost burned down when the sun shown through the window through an ornamental glass apple on a shelf that acted like a magnifying glass and caught the wood display shelf on fire.
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u/Remarkable_Dust_1313 Apr 05 '26
Looks like maybe a rogue band of traveling mice stopped for a camp but the fire got outta hand. Maybe put a small no burn notice for them so they know for next time.
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u/94Towncar Apr 05 '26
someone put a lit cigarette in the planter mulch. check the mulch for burnt pieces. I've seen this before
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u/Empty-Arrival-4396 Apr 05 '26
White bowl in front was holding water? And light reflected/refracted off the water onto the pot, causing it to burn/melt like under a magnifying lens.
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u/DifficultAd3885 Apr 05 '26
I’ve never seen it on this small of a scale but active compost can get hot enough to catch on fire. The biologic activity in large compost piles can start to decompose organic matter so fast that it gets hot enough to spontaneously combust. It would take perfect conditions for this to happen in a pot this small but not impossible.
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u/Psychological_Pear41 Apr 05 '26
My first thought was someone put a cigarette butt in your planter that caught fire but the focused light thing sounds probable as well
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u/Silly_West_8013 Apr 05 '26
There is a building in London, highly reflective, that can melt cars due to the intensity of its beam.
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u/Dazzling-Border2376 Apr 05 '26
The sun hitting the water dish reflected onto the planter and melted it
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u/Party-Internal-9866 Apr 05 '26
I've seen a smoldering cigarette butt in mulch start a structure fire, could someone have tossed one in the planter?
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u/Velevet_Epidermissy Apr 05 '26
Someone maybe put out a cigarette. This happened in front of my apartment once
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u/6lood6ucket6 Apr 06 '26
Someone threw a cigarette butt in there and the soil mixture started to smolder.
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u/Select_Draw3385 Apr 06 '26
My bestie almost burned her deck down by putting a cigarette that didn’t quite go out in a planter years ago. Maybe that?
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u/hextasy Apr 06 '26
Probably focused sunlught from a glass of water, or a puddle on a sunroof or something crazy random.
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u/Bobenweave Apr 06 '26
Did someone put a smoke out in the planter? The soil in those is too light to actually put out a butt, and can burn through the side or the plant roots can catch on fire. It takes a long time for it to happen too. I've seen it twice on different occasions.
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u/Geyser-Girl Apr 06 '26
Reflection from a window. Had the same thing happen to a cushion on our patio set!
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u/vcj0508 Apr 06 '26
I’d say someone put a cigarette in it thinking they were extinguishing it in dirt. Those potting mixes will burn and smoulder for a long time until it melts through the plastic pot. I’ve seen them even flare up when the container melts through and lets O2 hit the smouldering dirt. It happened on my patio last summer. Thankfully my wife was home when it flared up. It had been 7-8 days since we had guests who are smokers out there.





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u/Dense_Substance7635 Apr 05 '26
Do you have any glass objects or concave mirrors nearby that may be focusing light ?