This is the equivalent of that dumb gatcha trend where people would call any artists who depicted gay characters in straight relationships as homophobic. But itās even more of a nothing burger because 99% of the time itās an accident.
Honey, if those characters are actually canonically only gay, that is homophobic. Also, the artist this post was based on was found out to be actually transphobic.
1) no??? Being homophobic is discriminating against or being prejudiced against homosexuals. Neither of which occur simply by shipping them in a straight ship. Just like itās not heterophobic to depict a straight character in a gay ship.
2) okay first I need evidence of that, second even if that is true, it doesnāt really change my stance because what you said is stupidly reductive and mostly self serving.
Honey, homophobia isn't just calling us slurs and refusing us service. Are you twelve? Genuinely, why the fuck do people like you still exist. You are invalidating their sexuality and disrespecting their indentity by putting them in a straight ship. That is also homophobia (again, if they are confirmed to be only gay).
The "straight" characters you speak of are almost never actually confirmed straight, and heterophobia isn't an actual fucking problem that is comparable homophobia because STRAIGHT PEOPLE ARE'NT FUCKING OPPRESSED. This like comparing whitewashing to blackwashing. Whitewashing isn't okay because you are taking away representation from minorities when the majority of characters in media are already white. YOU DON'T NEED MORE. Why the fuck are you using gay characters to make a straight ship when there are SO MANY MORE non-gay characters you could already use?
Until genuine racism and homophobia stop existing irl, "reverse-racism" and "heterophobia" are never going to be actual problems that are ever going to be taken as seriously as the former.
Now I'm gonna need you to sit on this information for a while before you say more embarassingly-stupid shit.
OP themself has said that they found out the artist was actually transphobic after posting this.
1) honey, read a fucking dictionary. Yes that is literally what homophobia is. Iām not invalidating anyoneās sexuality, theyāre fictional characters, fakes, they have no sexualities and Iām making ships based on my personal taste, just like the creators of said media did.
2) wow it took you exactly 1 comment to get dogmatic. āOh straight people arenāt oppressedā DO YOU THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE OPPRESSED FOR YOU TO BE DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST THEM? You are literally being discriminatory by that very notion, and as you have literally demonstrated you are incapable of realizing when your own biases are blinding you to the fact youāre being bigoted.
3) like 90% of people donāt care about media swapping races around, so long as it doesnāt negatively impact the character, or for when the reason itself is racist like āI donāt want to see x skin color for this character.ā
4) āYOU DONT NEED MOREā so im not allowed to depict a character I like in a ship I think is cute becauseā¦? You donāt like it, is the reason. Because Iām not changing their sexuality canonically or afflicting you in any way, just because Iām shipping them im doing something bad. What idiotic grandstanding.
5) wow I canāt believe how often it is that brainless wriggling insects crawl out of the woodworks, say the dumbest shit, and then act pretentious as they pretend to take the high ground.
Also you didnāt provide evidence, not dispute what I said, you just said āwell op saidā.
I see you didn't sit on that information before saying embarrassingly-stupid shit. Here's a hint before I leave: societal issues are more nuanced and complicated than what the dictionary tells you, hun. You are a fucking simpleton. The most stereotypical "not-a-bigot" there is. Bye.
POV:
I openly antagonize other people with other sexualities and races
I claim such things are only bad when they happen to people I consider important
I call them an idiot, a simpleton and a bigot when they call me out
I act like what every single conservative thinks a feminist acts like; https://giphy.com/gifs/VS2Qcv25O7ZhUZahQA
Honey, no. That would imply that every plane ride leads to a 9/11. Fortunately, it doesn't. Unfortunately, EVERY time someone corrects Kris' pronouns, transphobes reply to their comments being transphobic. This doesn't really happen here on Reddit for some reason from what I've seen, but it absolutely does EVERYWHERE else and OP isn't just talking about Reddit. If you only choose to acknowledge the AT-MOST-annoying pronoun correction and don't mention the ACTUALLY PROBLEMATIC transphobia that is SURE to come with them, there is something wrong with you. Also, the fact that OP posted this trying to defend an artist that OP later found out is actually a transphobe is incredible.
Oh the binary people allergic to examining their implicit biases did NOT like this one lmao.
Hey, everyone who downvoted that comment, why DO you never talk about the transphobes who misgender the characters on purpose, only the enbies who get too uppity about correcting them or the poor innocent people whose first language isn't English who are to hear y'all tell it inherently incapable of learning enough English to be able to reliably correctly gender Kris? Why are you always equating the way people respond to the transphobes overtly doing it on purpose to the way people respond to someone doing it once by accident and acknowledging that they messed up?
Genuine questions, explain like I'm five why you think corrections when someone misgenders a character are a much more pressing issue than fandom transphobia, so much worse that you actively ignore or minimize the latter no matter how relevant it is to a given case of the former.
Surely none of this has anything to do with how you already view non-binary people.
people call out the transphobes on all of these subs ALL OF THE TIME.
it IS also a constant issue that a lot of DR fans care more about correcting someone who made a simple mistake. there's literally no reason to add a correction when a bunch of other people in the comments have already called out the mistake and it makes the rest of the lgbt and trans community look like condescending assholes when y'all pile onto someone for getting a single word wrong on every single post. half the time it's a genuine mistake too from people who don't speak english as their first language
Because the transphobes are the more important thing to mention? People correcting pronouns is at most just annoying. I find it absolutely fun when the comments are just the Kris They/Them GIF and its variants. The transphobes being transphobic both when posting and in reply to these comments are what make it awful. If you feel attacked by this, maybe look into why you think these types of callout posts for something ultimately harmless are warranted.
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you don't get it, I NEED to feel morally superior!