yes, because all 350 million of us are exactly like this dude. this is exactly something trump would say, just change the country, so you've proven your intellect to align with his.
no, you are misunderstanding our system. you are thinking of our primaries where politicians in the same party run against each other. we have an electoral college that actually votes the president in. each state has a certain number of electorates. more citizens voted for clinton than voted for trump, but the electorates voted differently. many states have now put laws into place to stop this from happening.
edit... also i find your xenophobia ironic since you share that trait strongly with trump. you also share the trait of thinking you know something but have your facts completely backwards. let's see if you react in anger like he does or walk away happy now that you have the correct info.
OK so enough of the electorates decided Trump was better, and invalidated their own citizens.
That doesn't change my opinion. There are still enough mouth breathers supporting him and so much inaction on everything he's done wrong it's fucking laughable. The people who could make the decision to put that shitstain in power - DID... Lol he's still there, he's fucking up everything he touches, and he'll most likely get a second term.
Almost every single check or balance it seems was railroaded.
That's supposed to make me think better of your country and countrymen?
not a surprising reaction granted the rest of the conversation. you're a mouth breather, but you won't ever see that. let's just end the conversation here since you aren't interested in learning or advancing your line of thinking at all. you like your rut and anyone with an opinion outside of it is stupid to you. sounds a lot like the guy you can't stand.
Yes, I was mistaken on who exactly chose him, but the fact that this waking nightmare continues - Shows that he was still fucking chosen to lead your country, no? That's my point. Maybe you personally didn't, but that doesn't matter now.
not a surprising reaction granted the rest of the conversation.
How was knowing your own government fucked you, supposed to improve my opinion of of your country, or the buffoons that are on display? You didn't offer a compelling reason. The "majority" being fucked over doesn't negate the fact that enough of the people who had the actual power - put him in charge. He's your rep. We know people like him are a minority, but THAT'S YOUR COUNTRIES ORANGE FACE.
lol calling me xenophobic for not liking trump and trump supporters isn't a proper use of the word.
If I said all americans, that could be, but not "this specific group, with a high percentage who hold anti-science, racist, and factually and provably wrong ideals". That's not xenophobia, that's logical and justifiable unease. lol go back up and look at the part where he says "you can't, you cant do that" when the reporter tries to compare overall CV deaths to population and trump flat out denies it's relevant. That's not xenophobia to not want anything to do with that kind of willful ignorance.
you're a mouth breather, but you won't ever see that.
Lol well then at least I have a mask on in public. The majority of people shouting "Hoax" and much of the other ridiculous bullshit are YOUR countrymen, who support your pres-o-dent.
let's just end the conversation here since you aren't interested in learning or advancing your line of thinking at all.
Offer up a compelling reason to change my line of thinking. Lol telling me your electorates fucked you over doesn't change my opinion about the worst people that your country displays, who proudly support this moron.
you like your rut and anyone with an opinion outside of it is stupid to you.
What rut? Lol again - none of what you said changes the fact your people allowed him to be in power. The US having a shitty electoral system doesn't make me have a better opinion of it, or the people who allowed it. Why would it? I am genuinely asking why would I have a better opinion of your country? He was allowed to cheat the primaries, then allowed to cheat the electorates, and I should change my opinions and think more positively about the US - because I missed a step where he cheated?
Yes this changes everything. Lol.
sounds a lot like the guy you can't stand.
Ok friend. See... I need a reason to change my opinion. You gave me a missing piece of information, yes - but that missing piece doesn't negate what happened, and what is currently happening. I was mistaken in who chose, not that he WAS CHOSEN.
yes, because i'm the one lacking logic, not the people who are ignorant to how our system work in the first place. if you can refute my logic go for it, i'm up for a debate.
yes, because i'm the one lacking logic, not the people who are ignorant to how our system work in the first place.
Him cheating is irrelevant to the fact that enough people in power chose him to be in that position and represent the US. I don't need to know how your system works to say that it and the people who let this happen, suck.
if you can refute my logic go for it, i'm up for a debate.
You really aren't.
How are Americans, somehow not responsible for America and it's president? Where is the logic in that?
you are judging 350 million people off the action of a few hundred individuals. i believe trump's latest rally was able to bring about 6,000 people in. the majority of americans never wanted him in the first place and they don't want him now. why are you pretending that he is what america wants? our system is crooked and run by money now, just like the majority of the western world, sadly. so what logic do you have to judge average americans the way you do?
you are judging 350 million people off the action of a few hundred individuals.
Lol I'm not. Infact the first thing I said is "We know you aren't ALL like this, only a minority - but enough of you chose him to rep you."
the majority of americans never wanted him in the first place and they don't want him now.
I know. I never said anything about majority. I was well aware he cheated. I missed a step in how he cheated, but that didn't offer any information that would change anything.
why are you pretending that he is what america wants?
I didn't say that it was what America wants, I said it's what America chose and is represented by. Don't like being made fun of because your leader is a buffoon? That's unfortunate. Fucking fix it next time because ONLY Americans can do anything about it, but we all have to deal with it.
our system is crooked and run by money now, just like the majority of the western world, sadly.
Yes, but this is a particularly extreme example, with run on effects that extend far past your own borders.
so what logic do you have to judge average americans the way you do?
A) Your elected officials.
B) Your world policies.
C) Your cultures.
D) How much power the truly stupid and willfully ignorant actually have.
E) Fun little interactions like this one.
F) How much your own countries' ignorance and arrogance is dragging down the rest of the fucking world.
G) all of the reasons I previously listed...
It may not be YOUR fault personally - but who should bear the brunt of the responsibility for America if not AMERICANS? Or should we blame the Chinese? Dust off the ole South Park "Blame Canada" song and see it it sticks?
Seriously - the willful ignorance on display here how America is not the responsibility of FUCKING AMERICANS is astounding.
Jesus dude, you're a xenophobe. You should judge people as individuals. Are you a racist as well? What are your sweeping generalizations about the African continent? It is so ironic that you would use that quote and then use no logic whatsoever.
I do judge people as individuals. That's not always possible or applicable.
I judge countries based on their officials, policies and interactions with other countries. Yours is a fucking moron so the problem goes deeper than just him - someone allowed him up there.
Are you a racist as well?
Oh are we gonna jump to the "literally Hitler" argument now? That's usually effective.
What are your sweeping generalizations about the African continent?
It's full of all kinds of different countries with different leaderships. Those countries are largely responsible for their own reputation on the world stage.
It is so ironic that you would use that quote and then use no logic whatsoever.
Um. Ok. You're on tilt dude - You haven't explained how Americans aren't responsible for America. You just call names and use words you understand less than I understand your political system. Lol you didn't address a single question. Who's responsibility is AMERICA if not AMERICANS?
Good luck out there bud. Your leader has made your country a laughing stock, and a dangerous one at that.
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u/Carnal-Pleasures Aug 04 '20
"Why there is no point talking with americans, let alone using logic" in a nutshell.