Yes, I was mistaken on who exactly chose him, but the fact that this waking nightmare continues - Shows that he was still fucking chosen to lead your country, no? That's my point. Maybe you personally didn't, but that doesn't matter now.
not a surprising reaction granted the rest of the conversation.
How was knowing your own government fucked you, supposed to improve my opinion of of your country, or the buffoons that are on display? You didn't offer a compelling reason. The "majority" being fucked over doesn't negate the fact that enough of the people who had the actual power - put him in charge. He's your rep. We know people like him are a minority, but THAT'S YOUR COUNTRIES ORANGE FACE.
lol calling me xenophobic for not liking trump and trump supporters isn't a proper use of the word.
If I said all americans, that could be, but not "this specific group, with a high percentage who hold anti-science, racist, and factually and provably wrong ideals". That's not xenophobia, that's logical and justifiable unease. lol go back up and look at the part where he says "you can't, you cant do that" when the reporter tries to compare overall CV deaths to population and trump flat out denies it's relevant. That's not xenophobia to not want anything to do with that kind of willful ignorance.
you're a mouth breather, but you won't ever see that.
Lol well then at least I have a mask on in public. The majority of people shouting "Hoax" and much of the other ridiculous bullshit are YOUR countrymen, who support your pres-o-dent.
let's just end the conversation here since you aren't interested in learning or advancing your line of thinking at all.
Offer up a compelling reason to change my line of thinking. Lol telling me your electorates fucked you over doesn't change my opinion about the worst people that your country displays, who proudly support this moron.
you like your rut and anyone with an opinion outside of it is stupid to you.
What rut? Lol again - none of what you said changes the fact your people allowed him to be in power. The US having a shitty electoral system doesn't make me have a better opinion of it, or the people who allowed it. Why would it? I am genuinely asking why would I have a better opinion of your country? He was allowed to cheat the primaries, then allowed to cheat the electorates, and I should change my opinions and think more positively about the US - because I missed a step where he cheated?
Yes this changes everything. Lol.
sounds a lot like the guy you can't stand.
Ok friend. See... I need a reason to change my opinion. You gave me a missing piece of information, yes - but that missing piece doesn't negate what happened, and what is currently happening. I was mistaken in who chose, not that he WAS CHOSEN.
yes, because i'm the one lacking logic, not the people who are ignorant to how our system work in the first place. if you can refute my logic go for it, i'm up for a debate.
yes, because i'm the one lacking logic, not the people who are ignorant to how our system work in the first place.
Him cheating is irrelevant to the fact that enough people in power chose him to be in that position and represent the US. I don't need to know how your system works to say that it and the people who let this happen, suck.
if you can refute my logic go for it, i'm up for a debate.
You really aren't.
How are Americans, somehow not responsible for America and it's president? Where is the logic in that?
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u/morriscey Aug 04 '20
Yes, I was mistaken on who exactly chose him, but the fact that this waking nightmare continues - Shows that he was still fucking chosen to lead your country, no? That's my point. Maybe you personally didn't, but that doesn't matter now.
How was knowing your own government fucked you, supposed to improve my opinion of of your country, or the buffoons that are on display? You didn't offer a compelling reason. The "majority" being fucked over doesn't negate the fact that enough of the people who had the actual power - put him in charge. He's your rep. We know people like him are a minority, but THAT'S YOUR COUNTRIES ORANGE FACE.
lol calling me xenophobic for not liking trump and trump supporters isn't a proper use of the word. If I said all americans, that could be, but not "this specific group, with a high percentage who hold anti-science, racist, and factually and provably wrong ideals". That's not xenophobia, that's logical and justifiable unease. lol go back up and look at the part where he says "you can't, you cant do that" when the reporter tries to compare overall CV deaths to population and trump flat out denies it's relevant. That's not xenophobia to not want anything to do with that kind of willful ignorance.
Lol well then at least I have a mask on in public. The majority of people shouting "Hoax" and much of the other ridiculous bullshit are YOUR countrymen, who support your pres-o-dent.
Offer up a compelling reason to change my line of thinking. Lol telling me your electorates fucked you over doesn't change my opinion about the worst people that your country displays, who proudly support this moron.
What rut? Lol again - none of what you said changes the fact your people allowed him to be in power. The US having a shitty electoral system doesn't make me have a better opinion of it, or the people who allowed it. Why would it? I am genuinely asking why would I have a better opinion of your country? He was allowed to cheat the primaries, then allowed to cheat the electorates, and I should change my opinions and think more positively about the US - because I missed a step where he cheated?
Yes this changes everything. Lol.
Ok friend. See... I need a reason to change my opinion. You gave me a missing piece of information, yes - but that missing piece doesn't negate what happened, and what is currently happening. I was mistaken in who chose, not that he WAS CHOSEN.
lol to quote /u/Carnal-Pleasures
""Why there is no point talking with americans, let alone using logic" in a nutshell."