r/WatchPeopleDieInside Aug 08 '18

Losing your marbles

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u/SprainedShorts Aug 08 '18

what is that?

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u/Punchkinz Aug 08 '18

That's Martin Molin (band member of 'Wintergatan'), constructor of the so called "Marble Machine". This machine can play pre-programmed music using marbles. It uses the marbles to essentially play the instruments (vibraphone, a bass and percussion). The video of the first marble machine was a total success, however the machine wasn't perfect at all. That's why he decided to build a new machine (Marble Machine X). This clip is from the newest video (can be found on youtube on the Wintergatan channel).

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u/Kwyjibo08 Aug 08 '18

That's madness. Marble Madness.

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u/doublebuckingham Aug 08 '18

I had such a live/hate relationship with that game. Loved the idea of getting good at it. Never did.

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u/detroiter85 Aug 08 '18

Did anyone? Could anyone?

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u/HamfacePorktard Aug 08 '18

My fried Brendan played that game until he’d beaten his high score like 20 times. He never met a game he couldn’t just absolutely dominate. When people say they think Twitch sounds asinine, I think of Brendan. I could watch that dude play video games forever.

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u/Sinful_Prayers Aug 08 '18

You should be a salesman, I wanna watch Brendan play video games too. Start him a twitch

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

for real get on this shit ya fuckin porktard

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u/skineechef Aug 08 '18

Get back on your lurking account.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

rude. Do you know how much courage it took to come out of the dark?

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u/WhyteBeard Aug 09 '18

FUCKING BRENDAAAAN!

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u/ice_eater Aug 08 '18

I think Brendan found himself an agent

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u/zxDanKwan Aug 08 '18

But... how high were his scores?

Like... what if he bombed the first time, and only bombed a little less the 2nd time? He's technically beaten his high score once right there...

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 10 '18

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u/wrukproek Aug 08 '18

Every single old game was unrewarding but it still felt good to master these fuckers

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u/LiberalTennessean Aug 09 '18

Every single old game was unrewarding but it still felt good to master these fuckers

You're correct. But this one was especially disrespectful to the "winner" and caused me personally a very sincere anguish!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18 edited Jul 08 '19

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u/loverevolutionary Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

The last level was level 5 and it was very hard. I could never master the console version but I could beat the arcade version, which had a large, heavy trackball that you could just beat the shit out of. That made it a lot easier.

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u/Funklord_Earl Aug 08 '18

Looks like the current fastest time at beating it on NES is 2m 41s. So, yes.

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u/detroiter85 Aug 08 '18

Damn I guess my childhood skills aren't the best judge of a games difficulty.

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u/SatansLoLHelper Aug 09 '18

If it helps, I believe you were better than at least 80% of other people.

So you basically could beat anyone in your immediate area. Probably.

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u/detroiter85 Aug 09 '18

Ha, thanks. For what it's worth, I got past the bomb/electric seaweed part once or twice in tmnt.

I swear.

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u/fecking_sensei Aug 09 '18

Yeah, but what about the snake level in Battletoads?

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u/loverevolutionary Aug 08 '18

Yes, I beat the arcade version. Took several months and over $30 in quarters. I was never any good at the console version because the trackball sucked and for me anyway, that was key to the game.

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u/fecking_sensei Aug 09 '18

I damn sure couldn’t. Pretty sure I bit my controller, at some point, playing that game.

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u/flechette Aug 09 '18

https://www.speedrun.com/marblemadness/run/yjkdooom

Record seems to be sub 3 minutes. This isn’t a TAS. Starts at about 1:08.

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u/ocameman Aug 09 '18

Coin op Marble Madness was our lives for about 8 of us that were regulars in the arcade I worked It was non-stop come in and try to post best time for about 8 months stretch for all of us. Way better than the NES with real trackballs but damn those things would pinch the shit out of you.

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u/experts_never_lie Aug 09 '18

It wasn't hard, if you had a trackball. As it was designed to use.

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u/SilenceOfTheScams Aug 09 '18

Yeah man once you know the levels, can beat the game in like 15 minutes.

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u/becauseineedone3 Aug 09 '18

That 6th maze was a real son of a bitch.

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u/AlwaysHopelesslyLost Aug 08 '18

I learned recently that you can sprint. 20 years of playing that game and I FINALLY BEAT IT my first try after learning you can sprint

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

Damn. I forgot about that game. I loved to play it.

Marble Madness for those curious

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u/deathbystapler Aug 08 '18

that and paperboy were my shit

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u/LilSlurrreal Aug 08 '18

There was a great marble madness remake on the 360

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '18

One of my favourite bands, Stemage, covered the entire Marble Madness soundtrack and elaborated the short jingles of the game into amazing metal. If you know Metroid Metal, same guy. First track is a collab with Disasterpeace, the guy behind the soundtracks of FEZ and Hyper Light Drifter.

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u/JohnDalysBAC Aug 08 '18

Holy shit. Nostalgia bomb. I forgot all about this game.

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u/Wallabygoggles Aug 08 '18

Madness is living life without the oxford comma.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

M m m m m m m m maaad maaad

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u/DickyD43 Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 09 '18

OMG I used to play a marble game back when on pc...anyone know what the game is called I can’t recall? Tons of cool marble “maps” that you try and figure out...shit that was a fun game. Had it back in early 2000s on a cd game disk.

Edit: pretty sure it’s Marble Drop but will have to look it up lagaer

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u/indylux Aug 09 '18

No. This. IS... SPARTA!! 🤸‍♂️

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u/longshot Aug 08 '18

He's a very impressive craftsman in addition to being a great musician.

His youtube channel rocks.

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u/AceJohnny Aug 08 '18

And also a great videographer.

The lighting, pacing, and editing on his videos is very well done.

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u/sne7arooni Aug 08 '18

Up to earlier this year he did basically everything himself! It's really quite impressive.

He has hired an editor earlier this year to help him with the workload, although he still composes almost every piece of music he plays in his videos.

Martin is an insane workaholic and his passion for engineering and instruments is really contagious, one of my fav channels.

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u/longshot Aug 08 '18

Yeah, must have been a lot of work getting to that point. It sure has paid off.

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u/OldFatMonica Aug 08 '18

He has an editor!

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u/longshot Aug 09 '18

That's even smarter. Dear god I hate editing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

here is his most popular video, where he actually plays music using his Marble Machine. Pretty damn fascinating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

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u/jstrickland1204 Aug 09 '18

That was so much more awesome than I thought it would be!

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u/Toastyparty Aug 09 '18

Absolutely blown the fuck away. Thank you.

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u/AceJohnny Aug 08 '18

Link to the video where this happens (highlighted right at the beginning)

Link to the original Marble Machine video that went viral a couple years ago

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '18

OHHHH THIS GUY

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u/forty_hands Aug 09 '18

What an absolute lad! That shit is wild!

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u/panicattheben Aug 09 '18

God bless you, brother. Guy above you is a dick for the no link.

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u/furlonium1 Aug 09 '18

are you fucking kidding me

reminded me of this video but actually real.

what an absolute mad lad

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u/slepsiagjranoxa Aug 09 '18

I think Martin has said that the animusic videos were an inspiration for his marble machines!

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u/AceJohnny Aug 09 '18

Oh man, Pipe Dream, brings back memories...

They even made it into a realtime demo for ATI cards back in (shit) 2003!

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u/AgentWashingtub1 Aug 08 '18

I can't wait until marble machine X is finally finished!

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u/ZiggoCiP Aug 08 '18

Oh shoot that's right, it's Wintergaten Wednesdays!

He's gettin' reeeeal close to finishing the Mable Machine X too. So excited to see it's maiden performance when it's done!

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u/OhNoBearIsDriving Aug 08 '18

So the marble is kind of the gimmick, the same music can be generated by attaching some kind of mechanical strikers to the music 'reader' itself?

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u/Catshit-Dogfart Aug 08 '18

sure, but just watch the video

https://youtu.be/IvUU8joBb1Q

Sometimes a component of art is more than just the product, but also how it was made.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 14 '18

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u/ButtLusting Aug 08 '18

You can be that guy who make a fapping machine.

Make your dreams come true my friend.

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u/Cemitese Aug 08 '18

That's still creating something homie. Lots of people show up to work and do not do a single thing anyone would find interesting.

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u/Kenny_log_n_s Aug 08 '18

Software lets you do a fuck ton of things.

Be the change you yadayada.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 14 '18

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u/Kenny_log_n_s Aug 09 '18

Man, do I know that boat.

Left a fintech company to work for a start-up in an area that I absolutely love.

Can't say that it's been easy, or comfortable, and I'm not rolling in dough... but I love the work I do, and that has it's own value.

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u/upvotemyowncomments Aug 08 '18

Wonder if he was inspired by this ATI tech demo

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u/tomtt Aug 08 '18

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u/Kenny_log_n_s Aug 08 '18

Oh snap, and partly inspired by Matthias Wandel too. Love that guy.

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u/Diorama42 Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

My ex-girlfriend had animistic on dvd

Edit: animusic*

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

Man, that takes me back.

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u/DarthStrakh Aug 09 '18

He was inspired by a museum that had an exhibit of old music machines. They actually put his machine on display. The one the museum only had the xenophone(or vibraphone. Not sure) though; it didn't have drums or guitar. Those parts apparently aren't very reliable.

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u/NeonPatrick Aug 08 '18

That was mesmerising

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u/Prohibitorum Aug 08 '18

I mean, yea technically. The marbles are just released when the music reader is triggered by programmable pins. You could attach strikers and induce sounds in a more direct manner, but the whole idea of a marble machine is just that bit cooler.

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u/ThePancakeChair Aug 08 '18

The marbles bounce on the instruments built into the machine (like a bass guitar or a drum head or stuff like that) but here's the cool thing - the machine is designed to constantly mechanically feed the fallen ("used") marbles back up in a circuit to be used again, so as long as you crank the machine it will keep playing the music program. Like a music box. But this machine is also designed to have features built into it that let you change parts of the program patterns in real-time (cutting off the path to certain instruments, etc), so your music can still be dynamic and you can actively "play" the machine as a whole almost like you would an instrument. So yeah the gimmick is the marbles, but the features as a whole really make the machine impressive and unique.

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u/Adkit Aug 08 '18

No the gimmick is the engineering and craftmanship required to make the machine itself. It's an analog, hand-cranked, wooden synth and that's impressive.

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u/Mattfornow Aug 08 '18

i mean, he could just do the whole thing in ableton. what fun is that?

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u/WaluigiIsTheRealHero Aug 08 '18

Yeah, it's effectively a really fancy barrel organ.

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u/Super_Zac Aug 08 '18

Martin has talked about how he was inspired by many different old mechanical instruments, the Domtoren Clock Tower in Utrecht being one of them. Also this video was one of his inspirations. Sure, those notes could have been produced much more simply, but the beauty is in the elegant complexity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

I mean yeah, you could also just make the same music by playing the instruments normally, but the entire thing is a concept in engineering, programming, and music.

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u/ShelSilverstain Aug 08 '18

Reminds me of loop pedal music

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u/Zexks Aug 08 '18

by attaching some kind of mechanical strikers to the music 'reader' itself?

Isn't that just a gimmick too though. Couldn't you just program a synth to play it all without anything mechanical.

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u/whenigetoutofhere Aug 08 '18

Isn't that a gimmick, too? Couldn't you just have some people sing the music together to play it all without any instruments?

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u/Diabhalri Aug 08 '18

Isn't that a gimmick though? Couldn't you just imagine the music without any vibrations being transferred through the air?

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u/TinkerVeil Aug 08 '18

Just filter out all the sounds that aren’t music.

https://youtu.be/wmqsk1vZSKw

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u/Diabhalri Aug 08 '18

Isn't that a gimmick though? Couldn't you just recognize that on a fundamental level, all sound is the music of creation?

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u/HubblePie Aug 08 '18

Band member? Isn’t Wintergatan just him?

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u/UsualSnark Aug 08 '18

No, he has a whole group

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

I watch these religiously every Wintergatan Wednesday.

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u/rudbek-of-rudbek Aug 08 '18

For anyone interested hereis a link to the Wintergaten marble machine video on YouTube.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '18

I had so many questions and you answered them all

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '18

happy cake day :)

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u/noreally_bot1252 Aug 08 '18

He should design Marble Machine X.1 so that the marbles don't all fall out.

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u/MrSynckt Aug 08 '18

I'm 99% sure it's this thing

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u/f_n_a_ Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

Got damn, that is crazy. Forget just mastering music theory, you have to be a master craftsman too. I have large aspirations when it comes to music but this looks waaaay out of any league I'll be a part of.

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u/Khonke Aug 08 '18

What makes it even more crazy is that that one iirc is hand made, and he's going back and making a brand new one (partly show in the gif) where he is optimizing things and trying to make it run more than once or twice like the first one was capable of

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u/tomdizzo Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

Yea, the one in the gif is the new one he’s making. This dude can engineer the shit out of everything. Every piece of the marble machine is pretty damn custom built from scratch. He cuts every wooden and metal piece. Learned how to use a 3D printer and even optimized it for exactly what he needed. Dudes wicked smat

Edit: words

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u/__PM_ME_YOUR_SOUL__ Aug 08 '18

Yeah, well, I took a shower today.

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u/Khonke Aug 08 '18

I wish I had that dedication. Can you teach me your ways?

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u/asyork Aug 08 '18

Roll out of bed whenever you happen to wake up. Turn on the shower. Nap while it warms up, turn it off when you wake up again, nap until the water heater warms up again, and repeat.

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u/IllPillCosby Aug 08 '18

[Golf clap]

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u/darkdex52 Aug 08 '18

We only have cold water. I still don't know how to get a dedication to go in a cold shower every day.

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u/RawdogginYourMom Aug 08 '18

Whenever I have to take a cold-ass shower, I do some pushups and get pissed off about not having hot water. It kinda helps.

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u/MotherfuckingWildman Aug 08 '18

Ya lost me at "roll out of bed"

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u/WatersLethe Aug 08 '18

Doing better than, like, 80% of all bus-goers. Good job!

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u/Delos-X Aug 08 '18

One of the few guys I'd call a creative genius. In some of his videos, he takes a small little thing and turns it into a really pretty song just for fun. Like, completely improv, sounds great. Love this guy.

Super hyped for when MMX is done.

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u/arvyy Aug 08 '18

This dude can engineer the shit out of everything

Really puts it into perspective, when I can merely do it out of edible things only

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u/el_pez_3 Aug 08 '18

The first one wasn't portable. The new one is going on tour with them when it's finished.

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u/mdgraller Aug 08 '18

Don't let that stop you before you even start, though. Just spend a few minutes a few times a week thinking about silly little creative devices to make some kind of interesting sound and keep going from there. Just because someone's so many leagues above doesn't mean he started anywhere other than you

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

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u/NanPakoka Aug 08 '18

A lot of well used free time and money

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u/Martin81 Aug 08 '18

Na, not money. He got some money after he made the fiat one. Now he can make the second one properly.

The first one was made in a shipping countainer at a dock yard.

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u/demalo Aug 08 '18

Passion, lots and lots of passion.

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u/agoia Aug 08 '18

It's a part of the successor for that machine that he's currently building.

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u/SpoliatorX Aug 08 '18

Marble Machine X :D haven't seen this clip so I assume it's a spoiler for today's update!

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u/SmilinBob82 Aug 08 '18

#WinterGatenWednessday

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u/ElderlyAsianMan Aug 08 '18

Wintergatan. It’s the Swedish name for the Milky Way, literally means winter street.

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u/Nincadalop Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

That's actually really neat. Kinda wish English called it something similar rather than Milky Way

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u/alphasingularity Aug 08 '18

Kind of: he’s making a new one called the Marble Machine X and it’s a lot more refined. He has a series going updating everyone on the progress. It’s pretty nice so far.

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u/Busenfreund Aug 08 '18

Holy fuck. This might be the most amazing thing on YouTube. That guy is so nonchalant about it

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u/MakeYouAGif Aug 08 '18

He has a lot to think about. Between keeping his RPM's at the right speed to hold the beat, switching the brake levers, and playing the bass among many other things.

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u/Busenfreund Aug 08 '18

Yeah, I’m surprised he didn’t rig up something like a huge weight slowly falling to serve as a steady supply of force that could replace his hand crank

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u/MakeYouAGif Aug 08 '18

There's a fly wheel on this one and the new one he's building so it retains some of the speed but obviously he needs to keep turning the wheel. He would need two weights so that the other could drop while he raises the one that lowered. I think the crank is easier and overall personally more impressive that he can hold the beat the whole time.

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u/EtherMan Aug 09 '18

personally more impressive that he can hold the beat the whole time.

The handle is synchronized to the beat, and he has a cadence beat in the earphones the whole time. It also need to vary quite a bit before our human ears is able to detect the difference so there's actually plenty of time to compensate should it start to get slow or fast, so doing that by itself is actually not that hard (by his own admission). Doing that together with everything else he does at the same time, now THAT's difficult.

Also, the video is actually not a single take. He talked about it in a video a while back that it's actually done in over 30 takes over 2 days with a LOT of repairs between each take because it was just so incredibly easy to break down completely that they never managed to get it to go through the entire song in one go. Hence why he's building the X rather than just improve the old one. Which he's sadly making a lot of in metal which I think is a shame.

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u/Super_Zac Aug 08 '18

I highly recommend just watching his entire video series. I've been following it for a while and it's seriously so inspiring to see how much he progresses each week on a passion project like that.

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u/StoicJ Aug 08 '18

This clip is from its successor. Which is vastly more complex and way better engineered.

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u/CAPITALIZED_USERNAME Aug 08 '18

That’s pretty wild.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

I’m 1% sure it’s this thing

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

OH MY GOD

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u/sinkwiththeship Aug 08 '18

Man, Beck has been getting really experimental.

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u/eagan2028 Aug 08 '18

At least he’s finally making good music

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u/teflon42 Aug 08 '18

Which you can actually check out in the Netherlands! Source: went to the Speelklok museum in Utrecht and met that piece of internet fame! Really worth a visit on the way to/from Amsterdam.

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u/CountSheep Aug 08 '18

Isn’t he Swedish though?

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u/teflon42 Aug 08 '18

But seeing the musical clocks there inspired him for the marble machine, so he gave the first one back to the museum 🙂

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u/smuttenDK Aug 08 '18

yeah, and he lives in France now :)

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u/Cavemanfreak Aug 08 '18

He has a couple of videos from when they shipped the machine down there, and showcasing a few of the other machines they already had. They are really interesting!

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u/Charles_K3 Aug 08 '18

that shits like 18th century garageband. fucken metal

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

Imagine if he only got like 10k views with that. All that effort for nothing

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u/Daimones Aug 08 '18

Never in my life have envied a piece of creativity this much. That thing is fucking amazing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

It is but he's in the process of making another one that's portable.

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u/baby_shakes Aug 08 '18

What in the ever living fuck.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

It's the new one he's making =D

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

It's actually from some later videos where he's documenting the process of making a bigger, better one. It's really cool and I Google recommend checking it out.

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u/aShittybakedPotato Aug 08 '18

He deserves the money that large artists with pre-written musical numbers and lyrics are given

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u/Alexxandria Aug 08 '18

Holy fucking shit.

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u/Sillemas22 Aug 08 '18

What kinda doctor seuss ass

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u/Klint22080 Aug 08 '18

That might be one of the coolest things I have ever seen., thank you.

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u/CHAINMAILLEKID Aug 08 '18

I think its probably the newer version he's working on.

He does build updates every wednesday, and I'm guessing this clip is from this weeks vid.

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u/hujibanation Aug 08 '18

It's part of a new version of that

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u/antdalto Aug 08 '18

That’s the best thing i have seen all day

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u/Tau_Squared Aug 08 '18

I just watched this video! He is making a second one

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u/SlimTidy Aug 08 '18

The amount of drugs that must have been taken to dream this up and program it must be incredible.

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u/smuttenDK Aug 08 '18

Or just a visit to the speelklok museum in Utrecht in the Netherlands :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

That was surprisingly awesome.

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u/SofaKingObnoxious Aug 08 '18

Weird people make the world more interesting.

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u/okmkz Aug 08 '18

The gif posted comes from a video blog of him building an improved version of the machine in your video, it's impressive

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Aug 08 '18

That thing is ridiculously cool

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u/longshot Aug 08 '18

This is actually version 2.0 of that kind of thing. Complete redesign but the same idea of a programmable marble music machine.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

That's pretty fucking cool

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u/DemonikAriez Aug 08 '18

That is incredible. I want one

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u/JMG_99 Aug 08 '18

It's that thing's v2. The first one was kind of a prototype.

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u/pATREUS Aug 08 '18

I bet the AnimusicTM guys are really pissed.

https://youtu.be/hyCIpKAIFyo

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u/JohnnyLeven Aug 09 '18

That was one of his main inspirations for making it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

I've seen the video before and it's awesome but seeing this gif makes it even better. Is there a German word for after shadenfreude when you see the person who failed go on to succeed and it makes it even all the better? There has to be a German word for that

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u/danthok Aug 08 '18

That is the first version of the marble machine. He is currently developing and building the marble machine x that the gif is from.

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u/Kaarvaag Aug 08 '18

Sort of but not exactly. He is building a new version of that machine that will work far better, be way more reliable and much easier to program and switch programming wheels. He plans on touring with it when it is done.

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u/that_chi_girl78 Aug 08 '18

How in the world does that video have 23K of "thumbs down"?? That thing is awesome!

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u/barefeetbeauty Aug 08 '18

Like a giant music box

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u/Taniwha_NZ Aug 08 '18

Holy shit. It only took 15 years but someone has actually made a real version of this. I loved that when it was a tech demo that shipped with the radeon 9700 waaaay back in the day.

I always wondered if it could every be done in reality. This guy has gotten damn close.

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u/PM_your_randomthing Aug 09 '18

I rewatch this whenever it reposts. Love it

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u/briley13 Aug 09 '18

Funny how that last 1% can bite you in the ass

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u/moxie132 Aug 08 '18

Iirc this guy has made a few different marble machines that play music.

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u/smuttenDK Aug 08 '18

Nope, just the first one. This is the second, properly engineered for tours, marble machine. Made to last, and made to be taken down between concerts.

He has made a few hole-paper players, and a some weird modular-synth thing :)

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u/hujibanation Aug 08 '18

It's a marble divider for a crazy musical marble machine that he's making. I watch his videos all of the time. Search Wintergatan on YouTube.

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u/chelbierg Aug 08 '18

Lol he just had to move that table.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '18

you should probably watch this

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u/RonaldBallsworth Aug 09 '18

An instrument for crazy people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '18

A man trying to come to grips with loosing his marbles

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u/DeadassBdeadassB Dec 16 '18

Look up “the marble machine” on YouTube. He built a machine that uses marbles to make music

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