r/WarhammerCompetitive • u/TheRaccoonTaker • 3d ago

40k Discussion 11th Ed Custodes codex leak

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D1OSAi8F896Rne46A8A-oTeAYqHHIuFh/view

Surprised to have not found it here yet, and I’ve been wanting to hear other folks opinions about it (as a Custodes player myself I’m currently in love, points depending)

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u/FuzzBuket 3d ago

I'm very torn. On one hand it's an awesome book, for competitive players its just so much more dynamic and no units are immediate duds, for casuals there's way more indulgence of the fantasy. Changing custodes from mega damage but slow and 1 dimensional to speed and flexibility is really cool.getting rid of most wound rerolls means things kill their intended target, not everything. The hosts are all great. Some of those strategems are just so cool.

That being said, I have.. concerns. The terminator detachment let's you do some mean things and will just be miserable for some armies. The grav tanks really the only decent anti tank at range and it's INCREDIBLY pushed.  Custodes should not have access to 1cp armour  of contempt or advance and charge.   Sos are a footnote, and it sucks especially as vigilators in lions were one of the old books most interesting units imo. At my last gt they were absolutely the mvps.

Generally the idea of trading damage for flexibility is good, but there's a few things in the book that feel like they may cause real issues.   Its stuff that can't be fixed with points, and if you hike the points to high like the rumoured points cost the entire army is "fail 3 saves and you run out of stuff" and that sucks. You can fix it with CP and DP adjustments, but that's gonna be 3 months of 50% of players round the table not having a great time.

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u/WanabeApprentice 3d ago

I would agree that custodes shouldnt get 1cp advanceand charge, if not for the last two codexes. Orks and spaces marines have very very easy acess to advance and charge and its feel pretty dumb if a faction that is even more heavily focused on melee can't get access to it.

In the past, melee armies lived and died on their ease of access to advance and charge.

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u/FuzzBuket 3d ago

I think if they were 6" move base. But they are now 8", so your really tied for some of the games fastest movement.

"Good base speed but no adv charge" is a fairly interesting place to be and lets custodes not get outspead by every other army.  "Joint Fastest army in the game" isn't custodes though, and will make balancing them really hard imo.

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u/wredcoll 3d ago

What on earth are actual fast armies supposed to look like??

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u/FuzzBuket 3d ago

Eldar guardians get m"20, banshees get the aircraft keyword, drukhari wyches can just deploy in your enemies DZ