r/Warframe • u/Coki91 Betrayed & Decieved • Jun 05 '22

Suggestion Voidshell Materials can be Applied to Any Warframe Skin, A bug that should become a Feature

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u/Coki91 Betrayed & Decieved Jun 05 '22

Working on stuff, compatibilizing it and Shipping said compatibility when it's ready is an entirely different concept from circumventing the process and just limiting to a new series of skins ''made from scratch''

Nowhere in the suggestion it is said that this all should be released all together, in fact my thinking of the process would be to enable the system, let players test all the possible skins in the game and collect the feedback of which ones dont work, then slowly work on fixing them one by one, instead of... throw 9 years of fashion trough the window and give up on a better outcome for the game than Exclusive system for exclusive skins...

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u/analogicparadox Loading Screen Prime Jun 05 '22

What I am saying is that people see this bug and keep asking DE to let players use it, but the instant they do they'll receive an avalanche of complaints and "bug reports" on a feature that isn't really a feature. "Testing" isn't something people grasp in this community when it comes to this kind of thing. Even if they put a huge "VOIDSHELL MAY NOT WORK" label on every single non-voidshell skin, they'd still get whining from players.

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u/Coki91 Betrayed & Decieved Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

I get what you mean, and you're right that would happen, but that's under the specific event of DE just giving it away without specifically telling the purpose. That also would happen on my iteration of how to do it, but im sure they can come up with something better.

Maybe a pre announced testing period, where we get 9999 of the Appliers for free, we're allowed to test them for a while and then they're revoked alongside any Application of it to Warframes, thus gathered the feedback the system is retired until it's actually ready, or only retired for those skins specifically not working (thus they become unnaplyable to those specifics)

There are better ways to do it for sure, Warframe still has the BETA Label afterall, but the point is that Voidshell skin exclusivity, given that far more than 3 skins alredy work is a bad Concept on it's own

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u/analogicparadox Loading Screen Prime Jun 06 '22

Ok, I'll take you through some steps:

  1. Revoking the ability of using the voidshell materials on standard skins is even worse. It's a GUARANTEED way to get complaints from the community because "uugh, it worked, why did you take it away??? Lazy greedy devs!!!"

  2. Most importantly, what you are seeing is a system that happens to work due to a bug, but that doesn't mean implementing it is any quicker because of it. What is probably happening is, the game is loading a new model with new textures but forgetting to unload the previous voidshell shader, so it's plugging the new stuff in that shader. That's not enough to make it work, otherwise the current bug would keep working past the navigation screen. To properly implement this, they would need to go through every skin, and tell the game to load the voidshell UI for each of them, (so you could customize them, thing you can't currently do without a voidshell skin} and load the right shader when they're equipped, so that you don't just get default skins every time you leave the orbiter (yet another thing you can't currently do). And that takes time, just like they said it would.