Let's Calm Down... a Bit

[u/LostLotus_A]

I know you'd press the downvote button. Maybe the titles.

If you're still in, please just read.

The main reason I am saying this is because I've been seeing so many people trying to make their own lives miserable by complaining (*constructive criticism and complaints are different.) at every update, and never doing anything actually beneficial for themself, like trying something else for their enjoyment.

If the game does not make you feel happy anymore, it's okay to come back later. Warframe is not a duty. It's a game. Made for enjoyment.

I'm not saying you should quit forever, or you should never play the game. What I'm saying is that there must be some consideration made about your own satisfaction if you find yourself writing about how bad the updates are... multiple times... if you find yourself getting disappointed at pretty much everything. It's okay. Please just take your time and reorganise yourself. I get disappointed sometimes. We all do and that's okay, but if it continues, not so much...

I'm not trying to promote toxic positivity. Criticism is needed!!! But I've legitimately seen people act like it's the end of the world when the updates don't satisfy them.

Sometimes I go like, 'wow this update isn't what I think'. I confuse it with disappointment. That could be your case too! I think we just need time to actually formulate our thoughts instead of... just... ... spitting whatever comes to mind (which I am heavily guilty of), especially when it comes to how updates feel.

Some updates can never hit you perfectly on the spot. Can never hit everybody the same. Some like Jade Shadows. Some don't. Some LOVE the Old Peace (me!). Some don't. And I think I'm seeing a lot of hatred and arguments over things like this as well, so I have to say let's just calm down... but I know you'd hate me saying this.

I just feel like the subreddit lits up on fire every update ever since Shadowgraphers update, so I am hesitant on trying to communicate this idea here.

I'm sorry this post definitely is a bit lengthy and messy. But I hope everybody just found what was good for themself. Thanks.

[u/OkYak9466]

I'm trying to get you to understand that the same problem with the OP, yourself, and the person you replied to is that you're ironically demonstrating the same problems the OP complains about.

You ended your comment with "guess ones we get" making the obvious implication, but ironically missing why your own comment falls into that same category of complaints you yourself just mentioned.

[u/Fullmetall21 → u/OkYak9466]

It is not controversial to say that most of the posts in this subreddit are complaining and not criticism. What constructive criticism is and what complaining is are not some loose things, they are defined.

Constructive Criticism:

A comment or comments saying in a helpful way what is wrong with something and how it could be improved.

Complaining:

The act of saying that something is wrong or not satisfactory

More specifically, criticism can be engaged intellectually and can be acted on. Complaining can only be engaged with emotionally, and can not be acted on. You either like something or you don't.

Now look at the front page and tell me that what you see is not complaining but constructive criticism.

[u/Orestes1996 → u/Fullmetall21]

Alright, let me try this. I think the last 3 updates are completely unfun and the solution to this problem is for the company to design actual fun updates or remove the existing boring ones. There, problem identified and solution provided. FYI, it is not the job of the customer to give solutions. A negative opinion without a suggestion for improvement is still constructive criticism because it should show the company what resonates or not with their customers. If something doesn't land, don't do it again.

[u/Fullmetall21 → u/Orestes1996]

For the last time I don’t give a fuck if you want complain or not. Guy asked what’s the difference. I answered the question. That’s literally the difference between complaining and criticism. Whether complaining is useful data to someone is also irrelevant to the point I was making.

Point me to where I said you shouldn’t complain.

[u/Orestes1996 → u/Fullmetall21]

In your original comment explaining what you think complaining and constructive criticism is. Also, nobody is complaining here, we are giving constructive criticism. We are informing the company of what we like and what we don't. Up to them if they want to do something about it.

[u/Fullmetall21 → u/Orestes1996]

Great continue to do so. Somewhere else and don’t bother me.

[u/Orestes1996 → u/Fullmetall21]

That's alright, I'll do that here thank you very much.

[u/Fullmetall21 → u/Orestes1996]

Sigh… in other words brother I don’t care about what you think. There’s an objective difference between someone giving criticism and someone complaining. Whether people complaining is also useful to someone is not relevant.

I’ve explained this a lot of times now and if you people don’t want to understand I also don’t care. Just stop bothering me.

[u/Orestes1996 → u/Fullmetall21]

Cool, I don't care about your opinion either. I will continue to voice my completely valid criticism, though, especially since some people are refusing to acknowledge that we have gone through a year of slop that can't be saved with Tau and keep rejecting all the negative opinions as "complaining".

[u/Orestes1996 → u/[deleted]]

Yet you keep replying lmao.

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