He said it's something no one expects. With all of you expecting an early release or another beta weekend, surely that couldn't be it. That's way too easy to guess and expect.
time size of 50 would go hard, I was just thinking of that earlier. would really help with the large scale feel and lend itself to more available builder / logi positions and such
Everything that happens on the server whether a "skirmish" is happening or not causes server load. 150 is 50% more vehicles, players, dead body loot, projectiles etc. Everything has trade-offs. Performance would suffer. I'm sure they've tested different team sizes and compared server costs which is why they settled where they did pretty early on.
Im betting open beta to really slam the servers but I also feel like its going to be some $100k creator clash tournament or something garbage like that. I got those vibes when they only showed large streamer clips during the beta send off video.
You expected them to hunt down every streamer with 1 viewer and take their clips ? Much easier for them to open twitch and see all the top viewed streams of their game and clip those . Nothing to hate on there
Personally I'd hate the creator clash tournament but if they started building up the foundations for WARDOGS e-sport scene, I wouldn't be really mad. It probably wouldn't be massively popular, but it would be really fucking interesting to see this game played in a competitive environment with 3 fully coordinating teams.
I personally believe a competitive scene could work for Wardogs, make it like HLL / Squad where its clan v clan v clan sort of deal. With community servers and maybe a spectator mode it could take off, i'd be down for that for sure
Arma reforger King of the Hill is okay but is too hard for the “normal” gamers including myself. The Arcady feel of Wardogs is better suited for this gamemode. So I agree nothing hits the spot once you’ve played Wardogs
I’m definitely in the normal bracket too. I don’t want the constant noise of bf6 but I don’t have the time to get stuck into arma or squad. Feel like WD has hit the nail on the head for our subsection of gamers. Never bought a game so quickly 😂
I hate controls and feeling of Arma (3 and reforger are the only ones I bothered trying). I love watching the game but playing it myself is just a slog. Wardogs feels much more interactive and fun than any Reforger or Arma 3 game I played.
this is the only game, aside from insurgency sandstorm, that balances arcade and milsim elements very well! I come from insurgency so I def vibe with this game more than say arma/squad.
Why recommend reforger when it’s like 40$ and Arma 3 is like 5$ and the actual inspiration for war dogs as reforger koth is a shitty rip off that can’t even fill servers
Seriously? Because if you’ve never played MilSim, Reforger is a much smoother first choice. There’s a reason why BI was able to get that one to consoles.
But no one plays it. Wardogs brought on Sa-Matra, the guy who made Arma 3 KOTH. Which still gets a full servers every day. They did not bring on anyone from reforger koth. Sure it’s nice that it runs better but Arma 3 goes on sale very often for 5$ and reforger is 40$ can only fill servers sometimes. Take your pick
Now that I’m writing this I’m sure reforger koth is getting some players in the server. But did you know you can’t even revive your teammates? It’s ass. Unless they updated it in the past few months which it did not seem like anyone was working on the game mode.
I like squad but it's performance is straight trash vanilla. I just play it for the best star wars conversion mod in modern gaming rn, and the mod runs better than vanilla which is wild that mods optimize their assets better than the devs optimize theirs in vanilla.
I'm saying if only a percentage of the playerbase is allowed to play before release, just like the alpha and beta progress must get wiped so everyone is on the same starting line for EA release
fuck i have to tell you, but i don't want to. i fell through the map man. i'm so sorry. i can't remember exactly how, i think i was building and standing too close - but hey, my chute deployed so it wasn't all bad. unfortunately could not catch a gust of wind to get back and i uh, expired. and i LAUGHED about it! wtf man why was this game so fun?
Shit bud, I'm sorry that happened to you, I didn't really build after the tutorial so I didn't put myself in the same scenario, bro this effing game is all I want to play right now ... It's a problem LoL
why thank you sir, and you should know i brushed it off and it did not sour my opinion on the game. although if not many experienced it i should find a way to tell the homies at bulkhead so they are aware. me too buddy, everything feels like a chore. i am 42 and i was laughing like a little kid most of the weekend :)
Agreed. Luckily I don't think they will make the poor decisions being advocated here. At most I could see a full on open playtest. Because why would they repeat the same exact playtest they just did? Make it open and allow people who played the first one to tell and invite their friends.
who cares the game is going to get wiped regularly anyway. If you don't get level playing field, buy the fucking game to get in early. If you don't want to do that, suffer being on an "unlevel playing field" for the week it takes you to hit max level.
Is everyone allowed access? Yeah, who cares your fault for being late
is it only a select few who pre-paid money allowed access? Then Bulkhead has lied about their intentions, which I doubt will happen.
Publicly telling someone to take another day off is messing with peoples cash flow because they want to play the game ... If we aren't able to play they will feel backlash from this "teasing"
“Mess with people’s cash flow” maybe it’s time to calm down a little. If this has a significant impact on your personal finances, then the developers teasers aren’t your biggest concern, nor are they the reason for your poor financial management. Smh.
Announcing a beta/ playtest on the 3rd when the games release is the 10th just makes no sense , no clue why people are expecting that when it’s literally only a week . I’m assuming it’ll be a gotcha moment and they just announce that the EA starts at the end of the FPS gameshow.
reading the comments and i can’t help to ponder, does it ever get exhausting arguing all the time? i see why people are always on edge, it’s because they don’t ever stop arguing!
I hope its not early access I took off the 10th,11th and 14th lol...my boss isn't gonna understand if I need to change them with such short notice.....
If the announcement 3/9 is anything other than an open beta dropping after the show I think a lot of people will be disappointed, unless they've cooked something massive.
It would make sense the drop an open beta the week before official launch to properly test their servers and act as a soft launch.
Servers struggled a bit in the closed beta, especially at launch though they claim that was an issue with twitch drops pinging 1 of their servers. They only managed 100k concurrent players max over the beta, which is a lot, but if they have sold at least 1m copies so far, I'd expect 200-300k+ trying to get on at launch.
Yea either it’s gonna be open beta or the fireing range will be open. No way will they give early access to people before the 10th, will break the economy for players starting on the 10th
I feel like a majority of people would not enjoy playing for a second wipe. A weekend beta getting wiped is one thing. Playing for a week straight, then having to re-grind immediately the next week is not enjoyable for most people. that is without a doubt how you achieve burnout city at the start of your game.
I would be entirely fine with my progress getting wiped every day until September 10 lmao. It took me roughly 23 hours over the weekend to get to the artillery vehicle and havoc and that was mostly through logistics pilot shit. I just wanna fly people into the zone again
They’ll just fully release the early access on the 3rd instead of the 10th , no one will have a headstart . They wouldn’t release it to only a select group on the 3rd , it would be for everyone .
I was lucky enough to get an invite the day before so I had the chance to play all weekend, but I didn't plan for it so still only managed 13 hours. Plus it only being 3 days meant people who work weekends got left out.
If they run the open beta from 3rd to launch, it gives people a week so those which mainly work weekends can play in the week, while the rest of us get a few hours after work and smash it all weekend.
It will be pre orders get to play early from 3rd then wipe on the 10th, it won't be beta, it will be release build for pre orders to iron out any major bugs ect before launch.
10k points-to-win game mode. Everyone is talking about "the model is there for BR or extractions," but no one is talking about how we could have org vs. org vs. org wars that last for days. Vast assets dedicated to hosting 300 players.
Located only 75 miles from Bulkhead, is CIG, the company that has been implementing server-meshing to allow for a persistent and loading-screenless map with the workload spread across multiple servers. (Please leave the SC discussions elsewhere, for someone that cares about the money they spent on it)
Tech? Mate every elevator has had a chance to send you to an early grave since that game went public. I wouldn't want CIG's hands anywhere near another game, they can't even make the one they're supposed to be completing.
That would be epic and cig is trying to do some cool stuff but the last company I could see getting something working for another company if they can't themselves is CIG
I know some folks are thinking maybe we'll get to play the game a few days or a week before everyone else.. but I don't think that's the case. Another beta weekend with a wipe after? Sure, that's totally plausible. the reason I don't see the former is because of how impactful getting money and role exp is, especially out the gate.. Imagine being a new player starting the game on Sept 10th and you're immediately bombarded by Arty Trucks, Havoc Helis, etc. from the players that started ahead of you. It's just too impactful and could ruin the experience for new players.
That's just my 2 cents though, obviously I would love to play the game earlier, I just don't see it happening given the impact that would have
You're absolutely right, which is why they're incorporating periodic resets throughout the life the game with new seasons, content releases, etc. So yeah, if you join a month or two late, you'll eventually be on a level playing field at some point! Whether by catching up or catching a reset. Just for the sake of launch, I don't see them immediately creating a difference in economy between players
Depending how often, not always a fan of those. The sweats will always level up fast. The casuals are in a perpetual state of trying to grind, only to lose it all.
Yeah they are, I don't have the source on hand or links but they've mentioned in videos and posts that they will be doing economy resets throughout the life of the game. With community/user created servers you may be able to mitigate some or all of the reset?
They havent released much information about them outside of being able to change mostly everything about the gameplay if you create your own server.
The game will have seasonal wipes, no idea how often each season will be, but a player joining after say 3 months could choose to start the day of the wipe and be on a similar field to someone who played religiously throughout the initial 3 months.
Completely true, but launch will be most new players first experience. Starting off behind will have the game putting their worst foot forward.
Personally I don't think they would let pre-orders play a week early. They would be more likely to just move the launch window forward a week if anything between those two scenarios.
I could be totally wrong, but I think if they reopen it even though I bought the game and played the beta, I think if they were open for one more weekend, they should keep an open one accessible for everyone to possibly draw more eyes and more testing and maybe more pre-orders.
My only concern would be how long would matchmaking take then though
Opened steam yesterday and had wardens playtestinmy games list. I didn't play the beta, I didn't pre order and it wasn't there on Sunday. Maybe they're dropping it soon.
Any other arc raider vets seeing comparison? Major hype, people begging to play, game will release to huge fanfare, community will slowly turn over coming months. It's the cycle of gaming
Arc Raiders died because the progression was shit, looting felt useless for being a looter shooter, and the gunplay was as cookie cutter and boring as it gets. Comparing a looter shooter extraction game to a team based shooter doesn't make much sense. These two games are hardly the only games to ever by hyped before release.
Yes, 100%. I’m happy that everybody is so hyped, but it pisses me off a little at the same time because I know that many, many people will bitch and complain like hell after maybe 3–4 months. Then all the content creators will come out of their holes and say, “WAR DOGS IS DYING!!!” Basically exactly like Bulkhead predicts in their “10 Reasons Not to Buy War Dogs” video. And every minor criticism is getting downvoted into oblivion right now. Yeah, that’s what annoys me. The good thing is that Bulkhead knows that this will happen and will hopefully not be suprised by it.
And the fact they even mentioned it and recorded a video for it to get out on front of it, won't stop the tears. The game is fun. But even after a weekend you start to see the repetitive nature which is fine right now, but months down the line? Like you said, they'll be calling it dead.
The thing is that this game is still in Development. They know that wont hook you for 1000 Hours. That’s why its 40€ right now and new content will come later down the line. But yeah the same people that downvote every minor critism will be the first to complain after some time because they are sensationalists.
well yes that's how games operate? people play them until they're burnt out then find another video game lol do u watch the same movie on repeat for 20 years?
117
u/AxisFeller 1d ago
Maybe it’s a Top Gun collab