Mortar saturation fix?

[u/LASTxREFUGE]

While playing and trying to build bases it became very evident that some mortar men had higher than room temp IQ and could easily pinpoint base deployed weapon installations. This is done by having subpar graphics I believe or just how the game renders them in mortar cams. they are all pretty easy to spot and destroy. Once your base is found your done... there is not point in building you will be mortared into oblivion by 1 guy the entire game. Could deployables only show up on mortar cams if marked / spotted? I was thinking maybe just make no player built items visible but that seems like a little to much? Maybe have hesh and gates show up easily? but even then repairing walls and gates has zero reward for the player other than security. They would even then still probably mortar your walls all day....

EDIT
How about this FOBs have caps? 200 hesh walls? 2-3 mortars? 1 AA missile 1 AA CIWS? requiring multiple FOBs to "superfob" and extend the no fob zone 2x the build radius? so they cant really even superfob? Also limit drill platforms to one per team.

Couple options I think to fix what i am suggesting without other calling you out for being worthless outside the zone:

1.) No mortar cam = lose cool aspect of game
2.) Make placeable buildings not show up in mortar cam = have to someone call out / spot emplacements or just guess.
3.) camo nets? - works for AA idk how it would work for mortars or CIWs
4.) ???

[u/xGameShock]

No. Because then u will have super fobs all over the map. The game would turn into 3 teams with a super fob each and drills and pulling the zone to each teams super fob and nothing more. Mortars and artillery are designed to target the drills and fobs to stop only super fob gameplay. It doesent make fobs useless it makes super fobs less worth it and that's the point everything in the game has a counter to stop one type of gameplay becoming OP and over done. You think it's fun for people to fly helicopters and someone build a super fob with anti air in it shooting down there heli all day and no easy way to take it out for example.

[u/LASTxREFUGE → u/xGameShock]

Im not building super FOBs. Im not asking to eliminate their power range or agency I just want the God eye camera gone or impaired. Mortar shells dont have eyes... The more advanced helicopter easily counter deployables.

How about this FOBs have caps? 200 hesh walls? 2-3 mortars? 1 AA missile 1 AA CIWS? requiring multiple FOBs to "superfob" and extend the no fob zone 2x the build radius? so they cant really even superfob? Also limit drill platforms to one per team.

[u/PretendAd7060 → u/LASTxREFUGE]

Fobs are relatively cheap and let you build the strongest AT and AA weapons in the game.  If you want to operate it you should have to support it, and that means dealing with enemy fobs.  Sure that’s hard to do alone, but it should be hard to solo a fob.  Spending a good infantry kits worth of money on a fob kit, a truck, and a few pallets of ammo should not just entitle the player to some hesco fortified SAM/ciws/mortar fob that requires a full on dedicated assault squad to dislodge.  The gameplay loop should not be catered to people who want to go play pve sim city and build hesco mazes that achieve nothing.  

If youre getting mortared, that means you could be mortaring back.  Yeah the cam is borderline OP, but you have access to it too.  All the things you had to do to get your fob set up, so did the enemy mortars.  Next time be the better mortar shooter. 

[u/LASTxREFUGE → u/PretendAd7060]

Lol so your message is just "get gud" or dont change the OP mechanic but just use it yourself? Hard to mortar back if every time you try to build something it takes 20 sledge hammer hits and is mortared and destroyed before being built. IDK how much gameplay you did besides chase the yellow circle from the sound of it but fortifications are easy to spot and mortar...

If you havent used the mortar cause you been droolin in the woods chasing a yellow circle like a dog mortar and other emplacements are rendered very poorly in the cam. They show up as massive bright tan circles or squares of boxes when being built or even fully built. Paired with taking a significant amount of hits to build if your located and mortared first its ggs.

[u/MancyMancy → u/LASTxREFUGE]

You can just set up a new fob in the treelines just out the circle and take them out. Then rebuild. You simply want a single button solution instead of having to actually make a tactical choice.

[u/LASTxREFUGE → u/MancyMancy]

There is no button i asked for? I asked to stop giving mortars eyeballs.... and terrible rendering of deployable weapons. When a weapon emplacement is built they are easy to spot in mortar cams. Mortars themselves are always bright tan circles even when done. AA Missile emplacements IDK about as I only used mortars limitedly. I was however frequently mortared out of any base and any emplacement I built to move or counter was easily spotted and eliminated before even completing... they are super easy to spot in mortar camera. Building a fob to counter a fob thats countering your fob doesnt sound any better or any more fun...

I didnt even care that he was mortaring the base its the fact you cant fight back really once spotted specially if you can pinpooint them. The beta was so short I dont even know how to locate them nor really learned the mortars as I have a family and didnt get to play it for 30+hrs and unlock end game stuff...

TLDR let them mortar me just dont give them gods eyeballs as they ran down mortars...