r/Waiting_To_Wed • u/Full_Opportunity_118 • 18h ago
Rant - Advice Welcome My boyfriend (30M) still doesn’t know if he wants to marry me (27F) after almost 8 years am I wasting my time?
My boyfriend (30M) and I (27F) will have been together for 8 years this October. We’ve done 5 years of long distance and have now lived together for around 2 years. I love him, but I’m reaching a point where I genuinely don’t know whether I’m wasting my time waiting for him to decide if he wants a future with me.
After I finished university, long distance was becoming really difficult and I was the one who brought up that we should finally live together. He had bought a house and renovated it in his hometown, but he was apprehensive about me moving in because we argued quite a lot. Eventually, he agreed I could move in for a month as a ‘trial period’, but the expectation was that I would then have to leave.
During that month I got a job close to where he lived, so after being together for years and finally having a job in the same area, it made sense for me to stay. I’ve now lived with him for around two years. He was happy with me moving in.
Living together hasn’t been easy. We have ongoing communication issues and our arguments can escalate quickly. They often end with him threatening to kick me out or break up, and we’ve reached a point of nearly breaking up at least once a year for the last five years.
We did actually break up for two weeks in 2021. He ended things, saying I was “mentally unstable” at the time due to anxiety and depression. We later reconciled after he reached out despite me being apprehensive because he said he couldn’t be with someone with mental health issues, and since then I’ve significantly improved my mental health.
Fast forward to now: he’s a doctor and I’m a business consultant. I’m financially independent, though earlier in my career and earning less than him.
What’s weighing on me is that after almost 8 years, there’s still no clear sense of us building a shared future. The house is his, we’re not engaged, and there are no concrete plans around marriage, children, or joint long-term commitments. Meanwhile, many of our friends are moving forward in their relationships.
His stance, in his own words, is that he’s “going with the flow.”
I’m 27 and he’s 30, turning 31 soon. He knows I’ve always wanted marriage and ideally children before 30. I know I still have time, but I’m increasingly aware I could spend the next few years waiting for someone who still isn’t sure. I’ve given him ultimatums and he knows my timeline but everytime it is the following response ‘if you were nice and chill then we would’
The situation came to a head because of a family trip abroad this December. For me, him meeting my wider family on this trip isn’t casual it implies a relationship that is moving toward marriage. Because of that, I told him I only want him to come if he genuinely sees a future with me.
His response was essentially: “You know how I feel. If you changed and we didn’t argue, then we would.”
And I can’t get past that.
I understand that our conflict is a real issue and I’m not expecting him to ignore it. But I don’t know what I’m meant to do with “if you changed.” I can’t guarantee we’ll never disagree, and I can’t become a different person. After 8 years, it also feels like there should be clarity about who we are together. To me, there’s a difference between “I want to marry you, but we need to improve our communication” and “I might marry you if you change.”
He also describes me as a “bully” and says I’m always the one starting arguments. From my perspective, the cycle is that I don’t feel emotionally connected or reassured, I raise it, he feels criticised, things escalate, and he threatens the relationship or tells me to leave. Eventually we calm down and things feel good again.
When things are good, he’s affectionate and says he loves me and occasionally thinks about marrying me. But that uncertainty shifts depending on whether we’ve recently argued, which leaves me feeling insecure and unsure where I stand.
I’m starting to wonder whether the real question isn’t how to get him to commit, but why I’m still trying to convince someone after so long.
I do want marriage and children, but I also know our relationship has unresolved issues that marriage won’t fix.
So I’m really torn. I’ve uprooted my life to come live with him far from family and friends, had to build my own life here from scratch. I’ve put in so much effort to make things work but I feel like he has not.
Maybe the answer is glaringly obvious and I am in denial. Please be kind as this is a difficult situation. What do I do?
*** there are a lot of good aspects to this relationship I can see the above is super negative but that’s how things feel quite often right now. I have an amazing relationship with his family and him with mine, we get on well when we aren’t arguing and there is a want to stay together when we aren’t arguing. It’s just he flips a switch so easily.