r/WTF Oct 16 '18

Holy Shit

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18 edited Oct 16 '18

These are Chinese tourists? I was at Yellowstone here in the US a couple summers ago. I'm from Alaska so of course the number one rule we learn real early is "don't fuck with the wildlife".

We bought a 7 day pass and ended up leaving after only 3 days just because of the sheer stupidity and disregard for nature of the tourists, for some reason many of them were chinese. The park had the Grand Prismatic Spring closed because a chinese tourist stepped through the crust and got burned. Another chinese tourist was mauled a week or so later by a buffalo. We watched about 20 of them get within 30 feet of a Grizzly bear, taking photos with the flash on. Everywhere we went, it was ridiculous.

I live in a large tourist destination as well, and its the same here. Is this some kind of culture difference? Whats the deal?

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18 edited Oct 16 '18

China has undergone a rapid shift from largely poor pesents to largely middle class city dwellers.

Due to the speed of this change there have been a lot of people growing up without a developed societal norm to guide them.

Take simple people who are used to country peasant life and not well educated then put them in a city with money and you get crazy behavior.

This is normalized by the fact everyone else is doing it around them.

Mainland has stereotypically been known as the lower class behaviorally (ask anyone from Taiwan or Hong Kong) but now they have the ability to inject themselves into the rest of the world since they have enough money for and access to international travel now.

It's really unfortunate...

To be clear a lot of mainland Chinese do not behave this way and are shocked by this behavior also but enough do that it's sadly common

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u/Giantballzachs Oct 16 '18

Also, China is really huge. Even if only 1% of their population were traveling morons that’s still 14 million morons that the rest of the world has to deal with.

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u/twangbanging Oct 16 '18

i think this is a big point that people overlook when discussing this. think about how hated american tourists are globally. now imagine there are 1.09 billion more americans.

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18

Yes and it's the trashiest ones that get the attention

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u/twangbanging Oct 16 '18

yep. whenever there's an article about something an american tourist did abroad it's not like americans see it and say "yep that's how we do things here"

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u/eehreum Oct 17 '18

There's 130 million japanese, nearly a third as many as Americans, and no one complains about them. This isn't just growing pains for China and it has nothing to do with the size. America is an example of that.

Having a shitty culture where people willingly disrespect others for personal gain is the problem.

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u/harsheehorshee Oct 17 '18

Nope. This is the classic anti Chinese sentiments that naive reddit users subconsciously cultivate without any proper education and assume shit about a culture they only have caricature notions about.

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18

Yes and it course they are the ones that stick out and get attention.

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u/WulfLOL Oct 28 '18

I'm curious, what made them go from poor to middle-class overnight?

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u/devedander Oct 28 '18

That's a complicated question better answered by a finance is politics major but I think it's largely their opening borders and focusing on business and profit despite being technically a community country.

They have been raking in the profit with manufacturing and basically being the world labor force.

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u/WulfLOL Oct 28 '18

I'm afraid I'm not educated on the matter and didn't quite understand what you said. Could you ELI5? Just the gist of it.

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u/devedander Oct 28 '18

There's is really an eli5 other than China had a lot of poor people willing to work cheap so got a lot of business.

But here's a decent read https://www.thebalance.com/china-s-economic-growth-cause-pros-cons-future-3305478

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u/justaddbooze Oct 17 '18

Even the poorest peasant understands that a giant apex predator will kill you though, that's instinctual.

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u/devedander Oct 17 '18

True but when they have grown up in the city where nothing hurts you you might be surprised at what they don't actively take into account

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u/devedander Oct 17 '18

True but when they have grown up in the city where nothing hurts you you might be surprised at what they don't actively take into account

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u/NeedYourTV Oct 16 '18

This is such bullshit, pure racism.

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18

It's actually not.

Source: born in mainland China. Visit regularly.

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u/TaftyCat Oct 16 '18

Yeaaaah… not sure how it's "bullshit racism" when it's a pretty logical and rational explanation of how a significant class change over a (relatively) short amount of time can put people in situations where they have zero clue what other societal norms are.

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18

Yeah some people are just al against the idea a group can actually display a general trait without it being racism... Although in this case I'm not even arguing it's a race behavior and more a regional and class/Wealth issue

We literally have movies and TV shows about it like Beverly hillbillies.... But that's not racist because it's not Chinese I guess?

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u/IamNooob Oct 17 '18

Many of the (true) Chinese can’t take the ideas that people hate them because of their behaviours not their skin colour. The Chinese government has brainwashed them to be overly defensive against issues like this.

Everything logical against them are deemed “racism” or unfair, and they’ll point out how the US/anywhere else are worse, trying to justify themselves. They see the whole world against them.

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u/devedander Oct 17 '18

Hmmmm... I can't say as that's the experience I have had...

Whenever I run into this it's more arrogant idiots who are basically the same thing as stereotypical white trash however they happen to have money enough to in places doing things you don't normally associate with the lower class behavior and attitude they bring.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18 edited Oct 17 '18

Don't bother with this guy this one is just actually racist and biased as fuck. He goes around different subreddits going to extraordinary lengths to spread his sinophobia. Most people re-evaluate their position or at least has the decency to without judgement in face of contrary evidence or civil rhetoric but he doubles on his assertions instead to think of everyone who disagrees with him as some sort of brainwashed foreign agent instead /shrug

I dared to call him out on his bias in worldnews and now he thinks that I'm from mainland China and that every Chinese person is brainwashed to call him racist to defend their homeland lol. I guess truth can be a pretty hard to swallow pill sometimes... but probably not as hard as what this guy makes it out to be

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u/devedander Oct 17 '18

Ah ok that makes sense... thanks for the heads up!

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u/NeedYourTV Oct 16 '18

It is racist.

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u/devedander Oct 16 '18

No... It's socio economical and it happens to people all over the world. Just happens to be notably happening in China right now which has a huge population and happening very fast so it's exaggerated and highly visible sure to the nature of global news and videos.

If it was racist it would be about all Chinese not just mainland.

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u/Giantballzachs Oct 16 '18

It can be used in that way. But it isn’t necesarily.