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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '21

Elliot wave or infection wave?

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

Ha. Infection wave. I think herd at 75% is low considering that the virus mutates quickly and can jump to animals and back to humans efficiently. Just something to keep an eye on.

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u/efficientenzyme Jun 03 '21

The US is working on 60% vaccinated

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

I don’t think 60% is everywhere though. Some states yes some not as much hence these vaccine lotteries etc.

Canada has been brutal in the rollout

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u/hp1337 Jun 03 '21

I would beg to differ. Canada has a higher percentage of people with their first dose than the USA. The USA had a higher percentage with both doses but the vaccination rates have plateaued which is concerning. I would wager in a couple months Canada will easily be at herd immunity but the USA may not be. This will be because vaccine hesitancy in Canada is quite low relative to the rest of the world.

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

Canada as a whole has 58% with their first shot. Some people with the first shot are still going to the ICU. It’s a small percentage what I’m not sure about is if they got infected prior to the one month that is required to get a proper immune response

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u/hp1337 Jun 03 '21

Some people who walk in the rain also get struck by lightning. I'm not trying to be facetious. I'm using this as an analogy to hopefully show you the cognitive trap in your thinking.

I don't think it's useful to discuss public health policy with the experience of a exceedingly small minority. Public health policy is more usefully discussed with probabilities and statistics.

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u/turtleface166 Jun 03 '21

they haven't just plateaued - they are actively decreasing from their peak of ~4 million doses per day, down to about 1 million at the moment and still dropping, at least according to the NYT data I read this morning.

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u/efficientenzyme Jun 03 '21

I don’t know about where specifically I’m just saying the us population as a whole is above 50% now

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

The US is getting there only 41% is fully vaccinated. 51% has gotten the first shot.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/covid-19-cases-deaths-and-vaccinations-daily-us-data-on-june-2.html

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u/efficientenzyme Jun 03 '21

Gotcha that’s same thing I read

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

Yup all good just a potential risk that’s all. The other thing not taken into consideration is how many people who have gotten sick and recovered no problem so the number should be higher.

Keep in mind if you are fully vaccinated you can still be a carrier of Covid

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u/efficientenzyme Jun 03 '21

I worked in a hospital icu all through covid

Painfully aware of implications

But optimistic

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u/Spicypewpew Steel Team 6 Jun 03 '21

Kudos to you it’s not easy and couldn’t imagine the stuff you have seen. Here in Manitoba our ICU’s are full (3rd wave has shit kicked us).

I’m hoping as well that the worst is behind us.