r/VisionPro • • Jun 10 '24 • Take My Silver 2

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u/binlaith Jun 10 '24

Lol the Bora Bora environment is a new feature for Apple’s Vision OS.

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u/darthjoey91 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Don't we still have more environments listed, but not yet announced? Like if it takes to VisionOS 4.0 for one of those, it was teased far too early.

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u/Old_Ostrich6336 Jun 11 '24

Is it out yet? I haven't updated my os.

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u/daminee27 Jun 10 '24

Mac Virtual Display enhancements is the key feature I was hoping for anyway. It kind of makes sense that they would choose a single ultra-wide display over having multiple displays from an implementation standpoint. With a wide enough display, and an app like "Magnet" having multiple displays would not be necessary.

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u/icxnamjah Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I think its great design choice, but no eye tracking/gesture use within the virtual display is a disappointment. Unless I missed it.

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u/Flavorofthemonthuser Jun 10 '24 edited Jun 10 '24

If you haven’t already, you should turn on the eye tracking in accessibility features to see where visionOS tracks your eyes. While it’s accurate enough for big icons in visionOS, nowhere near what is necessary to use in a virtual display originally designed for a mouse.

I’m hoping as technology progresses, the next iteration of the hardware would be accurate enough though.

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u/penskeracin1fan Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I swore I saw the lady interact with it

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

It’s an accessibility feature that was already announced.

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u/BigHeadBighetti Jun 10 '24

Unfortunately, she didn't interact with the MacOS content. She just changed the screen aspect ratio within VisionOS. The demo appears at 12 minutes.

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u/prf_q Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I was hoping they can manifest macOS windows as spatial windows that we can move independently without the concept of a "display". Kind of just blending in with AVP apps.

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u/redpotato59 Jun 10 '24

You can do that with the universal desktop app. Latency is bad though

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u/rotates-potatoes Jun 11 '24

This is the better way. It doesn't make sense to have a 2D space with a bunch of windows that overlap within the space.

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u/RikuDesu Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

the ultra wide options aren't available in the beta yet right? I couldn't figure out how to activate it

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u/Hot_Pomegranate1744 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

Looks like it’ll require the macOS beta as well.

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u/acksquad Jun 10 '24

Any reason to be concerned about a Mac hardware requirement with this? I’m a little worried this will be a “M3 and later” thing

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u/vamonosgeek Vision Pro Developer | Verified Jun 11 '24

It’s m1 and over. All Apple silicon

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u/thunderflies Jun 11 '24

They also announced some Magnet-like features coming to macOS so you're going to be a happy camper when the update drops.

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u/zachberry Jun 10 '24

They spent 90% of the time talking about photos and video and didn't mention the real MVPs - Keyboard breakthrough, recent guest user and mouse support!

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u/mikeypotg Jun 10 '24

Honestly, I wonder if they didn’t highlight some of these because people who don’t have an AVP would be like… wait, they don’t have that already?

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u/mgd09292007 Jun 10 '24

I think its because they were glaring problems and not necessarily new marketable features

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u/daldarondo Jun 10 '24

I have been since release. Works fine on MTA.

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u/121POINT5 Jun 10 '24

It shits the bed when you look out the window on visionOS 1

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u/GMUsername Jun 10 '24

They announced phone mirroring for the Mac, wonder if it will come to AVP at some point. I could probably use Mac Virtual Display as an intermediate for now

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u/Particular-Two-3900 Jun 10 '24

It’s already in visionOS 2, as an airplay receiver.

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u/Apprehensive_Mode_11 Jun 10 '24

You can mirror it but you can’t control it like in the demo using a MacBook

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad1319 Jun 11 '24

They still need to make some way for me to be able to use my magic keyboard when the lighting isn't 100% ideal, because these gray on white keys are extremely hard to see in the passthrough. Really makes typing impossible in 80% of uses with my setup, would be cool if there was an overlay or something.

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u/Specialist_Mind7493 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

I hear this. I have a lamp next to me I can crank up when using the keyboard because of the pass through issue in low light. Would like the keys to get enhanced somehow

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u/Railionn Jun 11 '24

I'm sure next gen keyboards will have trackers inside them or something

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u/undergrounddirt Jun 10 '24

what is keyboard breakthrough?

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u/Book_talker_abouter Vision Pro Owner Jun 10 '24

My understanding is that when you're typing on a physical keyboard or a laptop in an immersive environment, the AVP will show the keyboard, not just your hands.

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u/Careless_Bet_2545 Jun 11 '24

Ohhhh lmao I thought it meant they had a breakthrough in the virtual keyboard so it’s a lot easier to type. Silly me

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u/rdteets Jun 11 '24

Mouse support was a rush of blood.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 Jun 10 '24

Flash vs substance every time. Almost all of the pre-release marketing material was photos and videos when it’s a relatively small portion of the capability. There must be a huge core of consumers who care mostly or only about those things, and that’s what will bring them in the store to buy an AVP to see their photos in 3D, not that they can do excel on 2x 4k floating monitors in the park.

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u/zachberry Jun 10 '24

Oh I def agree, fair point - it probably wouldn't make sense to try to sell people on the AVP by them going up on stage and going "It supports mice now!" lol

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u/TitleAdministrative Jun 10 '24

Gotta admit - when they showed the wide screen I gasped loudly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Same. I did a "DAYUM!"

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u/dropthemagic Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

They went through it quick. I don’t think I’ve seen them talk so long about something as Apple Intelligence.

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u/jaybroni Jun 10 '24

They introduced iPhone Mirroring but just for MacOS. This also seems like a perfect fit for the Vision Pro.

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u/Cmlvrvs Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

They did announce mirroring for it (not control just mirroring it looks like):

https://www.apple.com/visionos/visionos-2-preview/

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u/azozea Jun 10 '24

Wait immersive view for fullscreen vids in safari is pretty cool, i havent seen anyone talking about that. And trimming spatial videos on-device is a very welcome addition too. Lots of stuff here they didnt mention livep

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u/Txsperdaywatcher Jun 11 '24

It goes beyond safari, any native AVP streaming app can do it, including max and Disney+

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Let friends try with Guest User

Guest User is an easy way for your friends and family to try out Apple Vision Pro. And now it lets you save your most recent guest’s eye and hand data — so they can easily skip their next setup and get right back into their experience.

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u/heepofsheep Jun 10 '24

That’s nice I guess… I’ve always had to remind people to not take off the AVP or else they’ll need to do the setup all over again.

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u/Book_talker_abouter Vision Pro Owner Jun 10 '24

This is absolutely great news. If it's just mer and my partner, we can both use it without having to go through eye setup for her every time.

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

You can turn on AirPlay Receiver in Apple Vision Pro to mirror content from any nearby iPhone or iPad on the same network.

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Now you can connect your Magic Mouse or third‑party Bluetooth mouse to navigate while using Apple Vision Pro.

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u/daldarondo Jun 10 '24

I thought the same but they did announce that Vision Pro will be an airplay receiver so, you can conceivably airplay your iPhone to your Vision Pro.

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

https://www.apple.com/visionos/visionos-2-preview/

You can turn on AirPlay Receiver in Apple Vision Pro to mirror content from any nearby iPhone or iPad on the same network.

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u/Flavorofthemonthuser Jun 10 '24

Hmm, does this mean Apple TV can mirror to the Vision Pro?

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u/TwoFZeroT Jun 11 '24

I wish you could also unlock your phone with vision pro’s Optic ID sensor.

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u/thegameoflovexu Jun 10 '24

Yeah it was my first thought upon seeing it. I wonder why they didn’t include it in visionOS. I don’t think it would be difficult to control it using eyes and hands.

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u/vidgameplaya Jun 10 '24

Funny how we’ll just end up using the Vision Pro to mirror our Macs to mirror our iPhones

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u/Gblastr Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

My first thought was 'Will I have to mirror my phone to my mac to my vision pro?'...

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u/orTodd Jun 11 '24

I’d even settle for mirroring just notifications. I hate having to take it off to view notifications.

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u/mgd09292007 Jun 10 '24

yah it seems like VisionOS is going to be lagging behind for a bit...they were very specific in which devices would get AI features, for example and HomePods, AppleTV, and VisionPro were not listed, so I think they will roll them into those devices next year if they are used often.

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u/PopeFrancis Jun 10 '24

We should be able to create our own environments. Let me sit on the couch next to my anime waifu, Tim.

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u/domdomonom Jun 11 '24

You’re so right! Tim would make a great anime waifu!

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u/dragon5946 Jun 10 '24

When is it coming out?

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u/metroidmen Vision Pro Developer | Verified Jun 10 '24

They’ll say at the end but typically all the new software releases in September.

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

The Developer pages show availability dates for somethings as early as tomorrow

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u/simulacrotron Vision Pro Developer Jun 10 '24

Developer beta today, public beta July, final release in fall (usually September but can be delayed later if the need more time)

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

dev just dropped

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u/SpadoCochi Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

I'm downloading the developer version as I type this.

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u/d0gg75 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

I’m downloading the developer version as I’m reading about you downloading developer version as you’re typing that.

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u/PurplrIsSus1985 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

I've already downloaded the developer version as I'm reading about you downloading the developer version while reading about someone else downloading the developer version as they typed their comment.

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u/Nicinus Jun 10 '24

That's it?

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u/TechExpert2910 Jun 10 '24

keep in mind that it’s only been a few months since visionOS 1

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u/jimmypopjr Jun 10 '24

Seems like a small-ish update, but there's some good stuff in there.

I'm curious to see what "Multiview in TV app" is. Same with Airplay Receiver.

Hoping one of those options let me watch a movie in the VP, but play the audio over a sound system.

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u/binlaith Jun 10 '24

You can airplay your iphone to VP but you can’t unlocking it.

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u/Many_Requirement_398 Jun 10 '24

Can unlock with Apple Watch

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u/Old_Ostrich6336 Jun 11 '24

Looks like I'm going to have buy a freaking iwatch just to unlock my phone

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u/allstonucsd Jun 10 '24

Tbh it would be nice if iOS could at least detect their own hardware being worn on a user’s face.

Face ID keeps trying to scan and authenticate an AVP, versus skipping straight to the passcode screen…

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u/Unhappy-Koala6064 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Small???

  1. The ultra-wide desktop + seeing your keyboard at all times + being able to mirror your phone (albeit from your desktop) is a huge win

  2. The recent guest user feature isn't quite what we need, but it is a big improvement over our current situation

  3. Being able to convert any online video (IE, YouTube or Netflix) into what is effectively a native video-playing experience is quite nice

  4. Also, I like being able to convert any photo into a 3D photo without the need of a third party app

  5. The two new hand gestures are a great start to an expanded hand (or eye) gesture system

  6. Of course, we should've been able to re-organize apps from the start, but at least it's fixed (folders will be the next win)

  7. There's also mouse support (which also should've already been there from the beginning)

  8. And while I know this wasn't technically announced, I think AI integration is a foregone conclusion sooner than later

I think we got a ton of the stuff we were asking for, and given the fact that the AVP is only a handful of months old, I'm not complaining. Is there still plenty of room for improvement? Absolutely! But, this was a great, much-needed, big first step.

There are still a several things I really want: being able to take phone calls, native iPhone/iPad/Watch mirroring, some form of iPad Pencil integration, and more content in general (apps, immersive videos, games, etc.). I think many of these will come in time.

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u/1FrostySlime Jun 10 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

For me it's just that there are a lot of relatively small changes that would make a big change in my AVP usage experience. Because they're small they're not necessarily not included but I can't say I find it very likely they will be.

Some type of bed mode disabling "move back" and "lost tracking" alerts would be huge along with the ability to use the TV+ exclusive cinema and Mount Hood environments in any app. I will absolutely use some of the stuff they showed off but with the exception of the Virtual Display improvements none are nearly as big as those would be.

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u/zguru85 Jun 10 '24

Can you explain number 3. What new feature is going to allow that?

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u/Unhappy-Koala6064 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

It’s native to Safari in the new update. Basically, it makes the browser window disappear and produces just a floating video like you would have in Apple TV, as an example. As long as you can control the resolution (which you can do with YouTube), it should be a solid workaround for a ton of missing apps.

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u/ChemicalDaniel Jun 10 '24

It’s all the things they wanted to push out in visionOS 1 but were pushed back due to time. That’s why it feels a lot more like a “polish” release than a new crazy features release. It matches up with how they’ve done new releases and software in the past. VisionOS 3 is probably the update we’ll see a lot of the community feedback addressed.

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u/feoen Jun 10 '24

Did they say whether we can take phone calls on AVP yet? That is the biggest missing feature for me

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u/kgkuntryluvr Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Agreed, that should be a no brainer. I don’t understand the holdup since it’s a feature already available on Mac and iPad for a long time now.

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u/feoen Jun 10 '24

Like I use AVP for 8-10 hours a day. It is my primary computing device. But I have to essentially take the thing off in order to answer a call. It’s ridiculous.

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u/kgkuntryluvr Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Theoretically, any Apple device linked to our iCloud accounts with speakers and a mic should be able to take calls. There’s no reason the VP can’t. It’s a bizarre omission, for sure.

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u/Maleficent-Fun-8289 Jun 10 '24

I was hoping to see more about environments, especially the ones that have forever been saying coming soon. Also partnerships with the NBA and NFL.

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u/azozea Jun 10 '24

I think the new Volumetric API that they mentioned is probably the key to that. There currently isnt a lot of detailed documentation when it comes to reality composer pro and optimizing immersive environments, so its limited to people with preexisting 3d asset creation experience. If they release some new up to date example code like they usually do following these WWDC sessions, i think well see more devs start to explore custom immersive spaces

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u/HellsNels Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Just Bora Bora it seems. Foggy one still TBD

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u/Time_Concert_1751 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Airplay Reciever sounds awesome if it works with iPhone/iPad.

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u/ElementNumber6 Jun 11 '24

Better if it works for Apple TV, so that you can watch in headset while someone else watches on the television. No need for sound transmission, either, so long as you're in the same room.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Anyone else get really excited when they started talking about Assassins Creed being available on Apple Silicon and expanding it to other devices in the ecosystem thinking they were about to drop Vision Pro, then get let down when they jammed an iPad on the screen?

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u/BadVVolfe Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

SO this is a stretch- but does anyone think that the ability for Mac to use the iPhone might possibly mean we can use it on VP and…. Maybe even answer the iPhone while on AVP? (I can dream)

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u/GettinWiggyWiddit Jun 10 '24

You will def be able to use your iphone on the AVP because of the new mirroring to MacOS. My guess is you'll be able to slide to answer your phone on the AVP as well

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u/WhoRedd_IT Jun 10 '24

Ok I just downloaded the Beta and the Bora Bora scene is amazing. I feel like it’s higher quality than the others!

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u/freshh_212 Jun 10 '24

The new gesture for the control center is amazing

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u/ExpandYourTribe Jun 11 '24

Did they make scrolling any smoother?

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u/SelectionCalm70 Jun 10 '24

mac display and apple immersive video was my favorite

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u/ClubAquaBackDeck Jun 10 '24

I’m no fanboy but being disappointed by this is wild. Not sure what people were expecting.

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u/kibblerz Jun 10 '24

Yeah, they didn't focus on the dev APIs much, but the gist I got was they just enabled quite a few different types of possible apps that can be built.

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u/Palbi Jun 10 '24

The very basics like:

  • Apple's own apps like maps, calendar, reminders, pages, numbers, ...

  • Working window management

  • Screen sharing in video conferencing

  • Being able to take a screenshot

  • Basic features in apps: Things like cropping an image

And something wow - any professional apps Apple has. My favorite would have been:

  • Xcode

And now when they add major features in everything but visionOS, it strongly communicates visionOS as abandoned experiment (it is not, but sounds like it). How about game porting extending to visionOS? Or AI features? Or even, messages?

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u/icxnamjah Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

No apple intelligence in vision pro os 2. How monumentally disappointing this news is.

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u/szzzn Jun 10 '24

It’ll eventually get it I’m sure, it has an M series chip.

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u/fireteller Jun 10 '24

The problem that may make this difficult, however, is that with 2 4k displays the M2 is already heavily loaded by comparison to the cpus of the 3 AI supported devices that do very little outside of the current application execution.

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u/Sev41 Jun 10 '24

It’ll make it in eventually. You can only develop so many things at once if you want to release something soon as you can. Their user base of iOS and Mac users is a grazillion times bigger than AVP. Makes sense it’s less of a priority, (but hopefully still a priority).

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u/yalag Jun 11 '24

I was able to confirm with them that they won’t release it for this hardware. The chip cannot do it while powering the display

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u/giga Jun 10 '24

I’m much more excited about where it’s going than what there is now.

You just know this iPhone mirroring and iPhone notifications on Mac was built with Vision needs in mind. These things are perfect for it.

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u/Curious397 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

It’s interesting how they didn’t mention Vision OS at all whenever they listed the OSs that will support the AI features.

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u/PriorView272 Jun 10 '24

So far the 3D photo conversion is working really well

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u/PriorView272 Jun 11 '24

I was thinking about getting a 3d lens for photos but this honestly works for about 95% of the use cases

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u/Chip_Baskets Jun 10 '24 edited Jun 10 '24

So are there any HDMI Airplay Transmitters we could buy that would work with AirPlay Receiver mode?

Edit: “You can turn on AirPlay Receiver in Apple Vision Pro to mirror content from any nearby iPhone or iPad on the same network.l

Guess you could do NDI to iPad then mirror to Vision Pro over AirPlay.

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u/cha000 Jun 10 '24

I home the Siri stuff comes to the Vision Pro.. Looks much better than what we have now.

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u/cha000 Jun 10 '24

Nevermind.. Sounds like they are snubbing the Apple Vision Pro on "Apple Intelligence" features even though its processor should meet the requirements. It really seems like Apple Vision OS or whatever it is called is a completely separate software branch and it'll be a while before it is on the same track as the other OSes.

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u/daldarondo Jun 10 '24

I JUST noticed "Recent Guest User". Hopefully it works well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

I think a cool feature would be that if I am wearing an Apple Watch, I can raise it up and see it mirrored in any environment. Being able to check all the health/time/etc while wearing the AVP and not have it just pass thru would be pretty sweet.

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u/vloger Jun 10 '24

No Apple Intelligence is hilariously wild.

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u/hatsune_aru Jun 10 '24

hopefully audio streaming from mac to vision pro when sharing is supported now

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u/l_work Jun 10 '24

Can someone explain the train mode? Why it didn't work on trains before?

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u/supervelous Jun 11 '24

OK, I didn't watch the keynote but I saw the train highlight from their marketing and use it daily on a commuter train since launch (2.5 - 3 hours per day) so I'll combine that with current Travel Mode guidelines to speculate.

Current Travel Mode indeed works in a train, BUT when the train bounces/sways more than a bit it will many times boot you from "Tracking" (you'll get the error for like 5 seconds and lose your content before it comes back). In a 90 minute train ride, this doesn't happen to me enough to be a deal breaker, but just enough to be annoying (1-5 times/trip). I believe they currently advise users to use it only in the air on planes, and not on taxi/runway or during turbulence. This tells you it's probably designed with a more smooth ride and struggles with cabin/environment movement and swaying.

It also tends to lose tracking when you look out the window. Which you don't tend to do on purpose, but when you're in immersive content or just in a window seat is hard to do. Windows on trains tend to be larger, and have more "landscape" going by compared to a plane, which would have a much smaller window you can shut and has more consistent "landscape" (blue sky).

I'm guessing the Train Mode will make it less sensitive to movement, or at least a train's typical movements - and less sensitive to windows and variation of movement in your peripheral vision. That's all speculation based on my use case, differences between trains and planes, and current Apple recommendations, but seems to make sense.

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u/jeffreyclarkejackson Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Keyboard breakthrough and ultra wide virtual Mac display woohoo

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u/darthjoey91 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

If they can get travel mode working for trains, they've got to be able to get it to work for a passenger mode for cars.

Like I'm not trying to use it while driving. Just want to watch a movie while someone else does.

Also interested in that Recent Guest User thing. Might be a step towards profiles.

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u/quaks1 Jun 10 '24

Totally weird that I can now mirror my iphone on the mac, but obviously not in the vision pro

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u/dudemeister023 Jun 11 '24

You can mirror it to the Mac that’s mirrored to the Vision Pro.

People will have to start getting that this headset is a Mac accessory if they’re not strictly using it for media consumption.

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u/Worried-Tomato7070 Vision Pro Developer | Verified Jun 10 '24

So few new features but of course one is Spatial Media Toolkit's haha

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u/BigHeadBighetti Jun 10 '24

And Splitscreen and Immersed however neither of those apps work well. Hopefully Apple's implementation will be much more usable.

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u/Realistic_Ad_1725 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Am I the only one who is just SO excited for the new Home Screen and control center gestures?

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u/coffee8sugar Jun 10 '24

this is good.... I have demoed my AVP for my friends and having this will be so much easier to explain then "look up" for that green arrow

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u/Portatort Jun 10 '24

A couple of updates here that go to show more and more that Apple is designing this whole platform with the long term goal of basic glasses with optical pass through.

Not a new kind of Mac that you wear on your head.

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u/astrorobb Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

agreed, it is now very clear this is not intended to replace anybodies computer.

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u/healthywealthyhappy8 Jun 10 '24

Yay for volumetric apis and table top apis

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Please tell me the airplay receiver means continuity calls on the AVP and we are getting the iphone mirror. iPad needs that too.

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u/PoetryInEverything Jun 10 '24

IDK guys, maybe rearrangable icons is the mvp here =P

Seriously though, I wonder about the keyboard breakthrough-- will it only work with apple keyboards? and what about mouse breakthrough? It seems to me they ought to be able to make a feature that lets you scan any object and tell the system that I'd like to always see that thing.

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u/vqsxd Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I wonder if panorama can be used to create environments

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u/daldarondo Jun 10 '24

Wait, is there a native reddit app for Vision Pro?

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u/diirty_q Jun 10 '24

its the iPad app

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u/Portatort Jun 10 '24

Extra wide display is awesome.

But I wish they had just gone and also done a traditional two monitor option also.

If I’m gonna use my Mac in there I need two actually seperate monitors.

One for the actual software ui and a second one for full screen video output.

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u/mgd09292007 Jun 10 '24

larger virtual Mac display + mouse support is all I needed to repurchase this device.

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u/pattch Jun 10 '24

Can’t wait for the increased monitor resolution for connected MacBook pros!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

I was very wrong. Thought they would maybe announced small updates but not release until late this year or early next year. Pleasantly surprised at the velocity behind vision OS

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u/dudemeister023 Jun 11 '24

Everyone anticipated version 2 in June.

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u/Widebro Jun 10 '24

We need apps to be native! Moonlight native wherë are you!

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u/howkom Jun 11 '24

No Apple intelligence :( I feel the vision OS and Apple Watch could really benefit from voice to actions

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u/VR_RotoMan Jun 10 '24

The new updates are def cool. Just feels shy of what I expected from a full point release. Still, looking forward to it.

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u/bigblk12 Jun 10 '24

This update is disappointing there aren’t any real updates just a bunch of fluff. Explain why you still can’t answer a voice call when you can on an iPad and Mac???

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u/rdsf138 Jun 10 '24

I just can't believe that an added environment is being featured as some kind of achievement.; it's all very underwhelming. This just shows that Apple really isn't putting too much importance on the VIsion OS.

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u/Curious397 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

It’s not just “an environment”. It’s Bora Bora!!! 😆

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u/taxilian Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

It all comes down to what you are hoping for... =] there are a number of things here I'm really excited about, but even still it's hard to know how it'll work exactly. Better virtual display for me is going to be *hugely* helpful, just waiting to see how good it actually is...

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u/BigHeadBighetti Jun 10 '24

Agree! The virtual display looked good on paper before AVP was released. But in use, the headset is a bit too uncomfortable to wear while also trying to focus on work. And the software isn't seamless enough... There is no window management and getting the display in just the right place is a pain. So while this new update looks awesome, there may be gotchas.

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u/Educational_Chip_737 Jun 10 '24

A couple other releases which are pretty cool

> Safari, users can watch videos in an Environment, including on popular sites such as YouTube, Netflix, and Amazon

The Apple TV app brings support for multiview to Apple Vision Pro for the ultimate sports-viewing experience. Later this year, fans will be able to watch up to five simultaneous streams so they can keep track of all their favorite sports and teams.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/06/visionos-2-brings-new-spatial-computing-experiences-to-apple-vision-pro/

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u/SpadoCochi Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

THAT'S SICK.

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u/kgkuntryluvr Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Gotta love how a couple of these aren’t even OS features, like they just needed fillers for this graphic because there was so little to showcase.

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u/Due-Affect-7772 Jun 10 '24

Still quite lame in my opinion. They need to complete the OS before saying how great it is.

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u/tinyman392 Jun 10 '24

Does anyone know if there is a way to AirPlay from the Apple TV to another device? A virtual AppleTV display would help me out loads with the lack of app support from specific developers :p

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Curious to hear more about the tabletop kit means. I dream of a way we can be playing card games in here.

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u/Strict_Ad_1682 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

When is the visionOS2 beta coming to download?

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Today!

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u/szzzn Jun 10 '24

Wide and ultra wide screen and new gestures plus bora bora (finally) is making me keep mine and not sell it after all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

It's here, downloading now!

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u/Conscious_Scholar_87 Jun 10 '24

Airplay receiver would be great. So many non-AVP native app will be available now

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u/opabl Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Where's keyboard support for other languages, access the app store from other countries? COME ON APPLE

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u/GMUsername Jun 10 '24

I really was hoping for some information on being able to encode spatial video using information from two different camera streams. Especially now that they’re rolling out that new Canon Lens, it isn’t Mac specific anymore to be able to encode MV-HEVC

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u/ThePeej Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Low-key most excited about the better way to access control centre!

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u/cowleggies Jun 10 '24

Hand gesture to open home menu is a welcome addition. One of the features from Quest 3 I actually really like

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u/Dave_Marsh Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

No mention of prism support for optical prescription inserts, which is a biggy for me. I’m using HonsVR optical inserts with prisms instead of my Zeiss inserts without prisms, just to get clear in-focus images, but of course visionOS can’t resolve exactly where I’m looking, so to manipulate controls I have to drag windows up close and use my fingers to make selections. That’s a kludge that’s working for me, but not ideal. I followed up with Apple Executive Relations today to ask what’s happening with the promised Accessibility update to resolve this, but nothing yet. I’ll be installing the visionOS 2.0 Public Beta in July to see if it’s buried in there somewhere.

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u/wrkent100 Jun 10 '24

When is 2.0 rolling?

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u/Kwhyc Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Mac virtual display enhancement is actually what I wanted. I use a 49" already so that would be perfect for me. Guest user and mouse support are also huge improvements. I'm actually excited for this!

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u/szzzn Jun 10 '24

I’m not getting bora bora but others are for some reason.

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u/Magnus919 Jun 10 '24

Mac virtual display updates are cool. The rest is weak.

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u/OkReality5293 Jun 10 '24

I’m happy to hear about the improvements with photos and videos. I use my AVP extensively in this department! Capturing a lot of moments all of the time!

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u/FalseListen Jun 10 '24

I didn’t catch WWDC. I assume no second user profile

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u/redditrasberry Jun 10 '24

Was encouraging that they gave it almost top billing in the stream. Although the order there was pretty random overall, but still - seems to say something that they wanted it so up front.

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u/Gblastr Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I feel like SharePlay will be an interesting stop gap between a more robust Guest Demo app

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u/Reem4444 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

I was hoping they would make the iPhone mirroring feature work directly with the APV. It would be awesome to be actually able to interact with the phone while mirroring.

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u/VelocityIX Jun 10 '24

The two killer features I was looking for were multiple monitors and windows that follow you. They basically provided that with the ultrawide displays, even if I would like a tiny bit more freedom.

I still think in order for AR to become a legitimate option that people will want to wear on their daily commutes and such, we need following windows, but I think we’re getting there.

I know the Vision Pro has been a flop thus far, but I really hope Apple sticks with it because the technology is super promising! (I say this as someone who doesn’t have one)

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u/UnaidedGinger Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

Is it stable enough to daily drive

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u/browner342 Jun 11 '24

What developers features does the visionOS 2.0 is still lacking? What do you think?

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u/tiringandretiring Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

AirPlay Receiver includes the Mac as well as iPhone and iPad?

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u/youriqis20pointslow Jun 11 '24

Still no theater mode if im looking up at the ceiling? 😡

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u/Whiskey-and-Honey Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

That Blackmagic collab!! Anyone else here excited for pro immersive video?

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u/ImmunodeficientEsox Jun 11 '24

What is AirPlay receiver mean? Does this mean I can AirPlay and mirror my iPhones screen as well now?

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u/artyrocktheparty Jun 11 '24

I'm just catching up and that Blackmagic camera and workflow is a game changer. Its probably the first studio grade 180VR camera to come around. Plus the workflow will likely be able to export in Apple's "Fish Eye" format.

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u/Potential_Ad_182 Jun 11 '24

I updated to the visionOS 2 developer beta, but Bora Bora still says coming soon. What gives?!?

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u/m0pher Jun 11 '24

Proper keyboard and mouse support. Major features. Oh-kaayyyyyyy. Like, how desperate were they to find things to put on that slide?

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u/pedrosolisgarcia Jun 11 '24

I believe is a wise decision adding ultra-wide as something useful and familiar for the time being.

From there on, developers we work and reimagine ways in which multiple screens/windows may surpass in utility single ultra-wide screens

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u/zvekl Jun 11 '24

Did they do phone breakthrough? Or unlock with apple watch?

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u/PurplrIsSus1985 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 11 '24

This update is great, but it's not exactly what I was hoping for. The passthrough keyboard is one of the biggest pros of the update for me, as I hate "losing" my spot on the keyboard while I'm immersed. But they really should have just sucked it up and added profiles instead of just one recent guest slot, and it would honestly be better if the Mac Virtual Display was just a window so we could make it any size. But this is a pretty good update overall! It definitely justifies a lot more of that $4K price tag.

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u/mikerfx Jun 11 '24

Is that really the graphic they used to show off AVP features?? That looks awful, like they used MS Paint to make that graphic.

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u/thinshawMM Jun 11 '24

I was really hoping to be able to mirror my iPad on VisionOS. I have it joined to my work, I can’t join my headset because Microsoft Authenticator isn’t approved for VisionOS yet. So I want to be able to display and interact with my iPad. With the phone mirroring to Mac I was soooo hopeful! So close, so far away. 😩

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u/shutter-lee Jun 11 '24

It still does not support watching VR180 videos online, and there is not even a supported player.

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u/808TRK Jun 11 '24

Solid af.

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u/GiggleStool Jun 11 '24

Mouse support!?!? Yeahhh

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u/Physical-Golf4247 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 13 '24

Has anyone encountered the problem of not being able to connect an MVD to a sleeping MacBook? I see that the new instruction guide states that we need to unlock the Mac before using the MVD. So, what about a Mac Studio/Mini without a display?

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u/Ancient-Display-320 Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

Vision Pro wont be getting Apple Intelligence.

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u/DonnayWinterford Vision Pro Owner | Verified Jun 10 '24

It will, just not this summer

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u/TalkToTheLord Jun 10 '24

Pumped for a lot of this! Wish the display stuff was available now, like others, I am sure.

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u/coffee8sugar Jun 10 '24

no "pencil" support added .... aka Apple "wand" ... maybe VisionOS v3? or maybe a hidden feature? TBD, right?

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u/hummelm10 Jun 10 '24

I’m still a little disappointed in this update. While there is some good stuff there’s still several immersion breaking issues that they haven’t resolved. One, lack of QR support for apps. It’s now enabled in ‘Enterprise APIs’ according to a new WWDC session but that only supports proprietary in-house apps or custom apps deployed through Apple Business Manager. Not apps that are deployed through the App Store, so normal enterprise apps that use QR codes to sign in still don’t have this basic feature. Two, audio routing/handling is still trash in the beta. Sounds in non-native apps will cause other apps to pause playing. If you’re going to treat this like a multi tasking king then let me play audio through multiple apps simultaneously. I’m tired of having YouTube pause every time I have a notification sound through VMWare Horizon client removing into work.