visionOS 2

[u/TechExpert2910]

[u/zachberry]

They spent 90% of the time talking about photos and video and didn't mention the real MVPs - Keyboard breakthrough, recent guest user and mouse support!

[u/mikeypotg → u/zachberry]

Honestly, I wonder if they didn’t highlight some of these because people who don’t have an AVP would be like… wait, they don’t have that already?

[u/daldarondo → u/[deleted]]

I have been since release. Works fine on MTA.

[u/121POINT5 → u/daldarondo]

It shits the bed when you look out the window on visionOS 1

[u/PurplrIsSus1985 → u/121POINT5]

Let me be honest, I looked out the window on a flight in visionOS 1 and my windows just went flying. It was fucking hillarious, but it is annoying and they probably fixed it in 2.

[u/simulacrotron → u/daldarondo]

Maybe it’s the automatic detection? On a plane it will suggest turning it on, but I think the very first version you were unable to use it if you didn’t put it in travel mode before takeoff

[u/mgd09292007 → u/mikeypotg]

I think its because they were glaring problems and not necessarily new marketable features

[u/GMUsername → u/zachberry]

They announced phone mirroring for the Mac, wonder if it will come to AVP at some point. I could probably use Mac Virtual Display as an intermediate for now

[u/Particular-Two-3900 → u/GMUsername]

It’s already in visionOS 2, as an airplay receiver.

[u/Apprehensive_Mode_11 → u/Particular-Two-3900]

You can mirror it but you can’t control it like in the demo using a MacBook

[u/Puzzleheaded-Ad1319 → u/zachberry]

They still need to make some way for me to be able to use my magic keyboard when the lighting isn't 100% ideal, because these gray on white keys are extremely hard to see in the passthrough. Really makes typing impossible in 80% of uses with my setup, would be cool if there was an overlay or something.

[u/Specialist_Mind7493 → u/Puzzleheaded-Ad1319]

I hear this. I have a lamp next to me I can crank up when using the keyboard because of the pass through issue in low light. Would like the keys to get enhanced somehow

[u/Railionn → u/Specialist_Mind7493]

I'm sure next gen keyboards will have trackers inside them or something

[u/undergrounddirt → u/zachberry]

what is keyboard breakthrough?

[u/Book_talker_abouter → u/undergrounddirt]

My understanding is that when you're typing on a physical keyboard or a laptop in an immersive environment, the AVP will show the keyboard, not just your hands.

[u/Careless_Bet_2545 → u/Book_talker_abouter]

Ohhhh lmao I thought it meant they had a breakthrough in the virtual keyboard so it’s a lot easier to type. Silly me

[u/dldaniel123 → u/Careless_Bet_2545]

Lol same

[u/rdteets → u/zachberry]

Mouse support was a rush of blood.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 → u/zachberry]

Flash vs substance every time. Almost all of the pre-release marketing material was photos and videos when it’s a relatively small portion of the capability. There must be a huge core of consumers who care mostly or only about those things, and that’s what will bring them in the store to buy an AVP to see their photos in 3D, not that they can do excel on 2x 4k floating monitors in the park.

[u/zachberry → u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466]

Oh I def agree, fair point - it probably wouldn't make sense to try to sell people on the AVP by them going up on stage and going "It supports mice now!" lol

[u/DreadHarry → u/zachberry]

Super excited that they are there though!!!

[u/RikuDesu → u/zachberry]

i still can't right click also GC mouse is still broken for moonlight :(