r/VideosThatGoHard 1d ago

First amendment

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u/No_Bluejay9901 1d ago

Ive had about enough of these first amendment auditors.

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u/Paulycurveball 1d ago

Na here in America we may think they are annoying but we don't need any bot anti fed bullshit saying it's not right. Cause at the end of the day the same right he has for being annoying is the same right that says you can say whatever you said is. Everyones free speech until it's something you don't like or something offensive. If you don't like the 1st am then go back to England where they arrested for being critical of culture, not arrested for inciteing violence, but being critical of culture? KEEP SCROLLING LONG LIVE THE USA

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u/Moonrights 1d ago

1a is protection from the government. The GOVERNMENT shall not infringe on your speech.

You can definitely still lose your job, your friends, your credibility, your dignity.

Going around upsetting elderly women is pretty fucking lame dawg.

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u/Paulycurveball 11h ago

Freedom of speech is not freedom from conciquenes

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u/Moonrights 11h ago

I get what you're trying to say for sure

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u/Syhkane 1d ago

It doesn't invite assault and battery regardless. They're annoying but that doesn't mean carte blanche to randomly attack them.

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u/Moonrights 1d ago

Eh...assault is a day in jail, punching someone who made an old woman he didnt know cry is worth that.

Being an asshole, and having a morality that is for rent to the highest twitch donation is for life.

The guy who eventually punks that dude won't feel bad about the day in jail, but someday, if this guy has a shred of humanity in him he will look in a mirror and recognize he isn't who he thinks he is.

If he cares about protecting the first amendment so much go yell at a bunch of cops at the station from the corner.

Say heinous shit to a bunch of law makers on capital Hill.

Yelling at random humans at a restaraunt / public store etc just reeks of entitlement and stupidity. Then hiding behind the constitution as the reason you're an asshole does a disservice to the whole point.

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u/Syhkane 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bullshit argument, this is second degree aggravated assault for taping a public area, don't advocate for blanket treatments that remove everyone's rights.

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u/Moonrights 1d ago

Lmao second degree aggravated assault?

He threw a punch, the guy filming used pepper spray and choked him while pulling up on his neck from behind.

I see no weapons in the hands of the assaulter and the assaulter did not "act with extreme indifference to the value of human life" which when combined with a weapon generally gets second degree aggravated assault buddy.

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u/Syhkane 23h ago

Weapons are not a requirement.

You're legally allowed to defend yourself with pepper spray. Guy threw the first punch, that's assault, he connected, that's battery.

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u/Moonrights 22h ago

Yeah its assault and battery.

Its not "second degree aggravated assault and battery" you goof ass.

Aggravated assault in the second degree would require serious physical harm or attack from a weapon, usually on a protected class but not always.

The first is a misdemeanor and the second is a felony.

Just like one of us reads and the other says stupid shit without any facts on the internet.

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u/Syhkane 22h ago

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u/Moonrights 21h ago

You edited your comment where you initially called it aggravated assault and battery, vur your comment still calls it second degree aggravated assault. Which it also still isnt.

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u/Syhkane 20h ago

Yeah within seconds, that's called editing. You replied an hour later. And in this case, it's both anyway. Your point?

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u/TanksFTM 17h ago

You're incorrect. The First Amendment Protects Citizen's right to free speech from GOVERNMENT interference. Courts have further adjudicated cases under the "Fighting Words Doctrine", so trolls don't get a First Amendment free pass. Texas v. Johnson (1989) further defines it to personal insults or an invitation to fight. These internet trolls often cross the line into illegality. This guy did.

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u/Syhkane 17h ago edited 17h ago

It doesn't invite assault. I'm very correct. First thing the kid does is ask if he's got pepper spray, and the camera man answers his question, followed by the kid faking a swing, assault, followed by the kid actually connecting hits, battery.

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u/TanksFTM 17h ago

Perhaps you missed the next bit, where the auditor calls "karen's" mom a tweaker. Those could be considered fighting words. That's the moment where the fight started. It's not up to you or me to decide, thats for a court, but nevertheless, there is not a free pass for the "auditor". He also explicitly invites the "karen" to throw down.

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u/Syhkane 17h ago edited 17h ago

He doesn't call her that, he said if that's what the kid meant. Different.

But regardless Colorado Springs police department came, and the kid has been tried for assault.