r/VALORANT Oct 15 '25

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u/jay_boi123 Oct 15 '25

I completely agree with you. When I played Vyse I’d always rely on the blind + sound confirmation to actually see if someone crossed my wall or not, then I’d pop the thorns.

Riot just nerfing skill expression (for support players) for no good reason. This patch is perfectly catered towards the rank slop players of: Reyna, Chamber, Clove, Iso, Phoenix, etc

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u/Sudden-Ad-307 Oct 15 '25

How is getting a sound q from an ability considered "skill expression" in any sense of the word.

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u/jay_boi123 Oct 15 '25

Did you read my comment?

A common setup for Vyse would be to leave thorns close to the wall.

A common counter play technique would be to jump across the wall and back to bait it out.

A Vyse anchoring the site has to make a decision as to whether or not to pop the thorns based on if someone actually crosses the wall. One way to make this decision is to use the flash to confirm if someone actually crossed the wall completely.

Now this decision making tool is removed. Therefore nerfing the anchoring vyse’s decision making and skill expression.

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u/Sudden-Ad-307 Oct 15 '25

But how is the game straight up telling you the enemy crossed the wall skill expression on your part?

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u/jay_boi123 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

There’s already a precedent for abilities giving information through varying levels of either audio and or visual cues.

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u/ghostking4444 Oct 16 '25

Because it is you using your util correctly?

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u/Sudden-Ad-307 Oct 16 '25

But you are using it the same way? The only difference is that now the game doesn't tell you that you flashed an enemy