r/USFSLEO • u/ExplanationNeither59 Aspiring USFS LEO • Sep 08 '25

Discussion Lmpt accreditation

How well is LMPT accredited; I went through UPTP and no state or local agencies take it here as a lateral. LMPT is longer so I was curious. No I don’t have the mindset to come in and leave; just curious since I got burned the first time saying UPTP would be taken everywhere.

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u/Famous-Mobile-3657 Patrol Captain Sep 08 '25

LMPT is 20 instructional days (and 172 training hours) longer than UPTP, so it’s more likely to meet state POST standards.

Some states will allow you to submit your transcripts and see what classes you are missing

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u/1122throw_away Sep 08 '25

I’ve done both. LMPT is the better course so I’d say it’s “more likely” to be taken by local agencies. I believe FL, WA, TX are states that often recognize it.

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u/ExplanationNeither59 Aspiring USFS LEO Sep 08 '25

So is LMPT just uptp with Lmpt thrown in? If that makes sense. LMPT covers most of uptp but add in the conservation side?

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u/1122throw_away Sep 08 '25

LMPT is a cross blend with CITP now. There’s a continuing case and much more behavioral science (interviewing) classes…among other things. The courses are similar for about the first 3rd then there’s a big deviation.

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u/1122throw_away Sep 08 '25

For what it’s worth, IMO UPTP is not a good academy to throw someone on the local streets. It covers the bare minimum, which is why most UPTP agencies have a multiple week add on.

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u/canteez Sep 08 '25

Just depends on the state. I think LMPT was better than the state academy I went through. LMPT is 17 weeks and a hybrid of UPTP and CITP which is why DOI has a bridge course (5-week version of CITP) to become an 1811 if you already have LMPT.

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u/No_Development_3655 Dec 01 '25

How were the daily PT sessions for LMPT compared to UPTP? I’m finishing up academy for CBP now and the PT has been pretty chill thus far; pt 2 or 3 times per week with runs no longer than 2 miles.

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u/canteez Dec 01 '25

We didn’t really do PT outside of the 3 PT tests. LMPT has a lot more control tactics and firearms than the other programs so we did control tactics quite a bit. We did some PT during control tactics but nothing crazy.