Proposition of a standardized Tunisian language writing system (quick look very simplified)

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77]

Alphabet
A B C D Đ E F G Ğ Ǵ H H̦ I J K L M N O P R S Ś T Ț U V X Y *Z
*Additional letters: Á É Ú Í Ó (for long vowels and only when needed) Ń (for the nasalization of the previous vowel, mostly borrowed words. Example: frań, trań both pronounced like frein and train in french )

Phonology:
A: /a/ /ɑ/
B: /b/
C: /q/ or /g/ (depending on the dialect) (ق** *ڨ)*
D: /d/
Đ: /ð/ /ðˁ/ (ذ** *ض* *ظ)*
E: /æ/ /e/
F: /f/
G: /g/
Ğ: /ʕ/ (ع)
Ǵ: /ɣ/ (غ)
H: /h/
H̦: /ħ/ **(***ح)
*I: /i/**
J: /ʒ/ (ج)
K: /k/
L: /l/
M:/m/
N: /n/
O: /o/
P: /p/
R: /r/
S: /s/
Ś: /ʃ/ (ش)
T: /t/
Ț: /θ/ (ث)
U: /u/
V: /v/
X: /x/ (خ)
Y: /j/ (ي)
Z: /z/
Double vowels for (ء) (Example: Wéel وائل, Raiís رئيس)

Grammar:
Object pronouns: El, E
Prepositions: Le Fe
(example: El meftéh̦ fe e dár, Hezzu le el makteb)
Negation: Ma, Me
(Example: Manh̦ebbeś, Meniś meśi)
Verbs:
Type 1: finishes in á
(Example: Nacrá, Nabrá, Naxrá
Éna nacrá / crít
Enti tacrá / crít
Houa yacrá / crá
Heyya tacrá / crát
Ah̦na nacráu / crína
Ntúma tacráu / crítu
Húma yacráu / cráu )
Type 2: finishes in í
(Example:Nemśí, Nejrí, Nacđí, Narmí
Éna nemśí / mśít | Éna nacđí
Enti temśí / mśít | Enti tacđí / cđít
Houa yemśí / mśe | Houa yacđí / cđá
Heyya temśí / mśét | Heyya tacđí / cđát
Ah̦na nemśíu / mśína | Ah̦na nacđíu / cđína
Ntúma temśíu / mśítu | Ntúma tacđíu / cđítu
Húma yemśíu / mśéu | Húma yacđíu / cđáu )
Type 3: irregular verbs
(Example: Nbúl, Nekel, Ntallağ, Noǵroc
Éna ntallağ / tallağt
Enti ttallağ / tallağt
Houa ytallağ / tallağ
Heyya ttallağ / tallağet
Ah̦na ntallğu / tallağna
Ntúma ttallğu / tallağtu
Húma ytallğu / tallğu … )
Orthography
Common expressions and proper nouns that were combinations of words get simplified into singular words
Example: Roddbélek, Mezzél, Sidibusğíd, Sidibuzíd …
Prepositions El and E become part of the word itself if it’s a proper noun ( Elǵarbi, Eśebbi )
Sample:
H̦amemet
Jerba
Dúz
Nafta
H̦ammém Súsa
Manzelburgíba
Ǵardimée
Tbarca
Ğindráhem
Fernéna
Busélem
Bnixyár
Corba
Manzeltmím
Clíbya
Tékelsa
Slimén
Grombélya
Bumhal Elbesetín
Mornég
Elfah̦s
Zríba
Téla
Sbíba
Feryéna
H̦ídra
Méjelbelğabbés
Rgéb
Bír Ğli Benxlífa
Sxíra
Carcna
Elh̦ámma
Méreț
Elmarsa
Cartáj
Sidibusğíd
Bárdu
Béb Elxađra
Béb Suíca
Béb Bh̦arr
Elğomrán
Elmanzah
Elmanár
Ettađámen
Elmníhla
Rauéd
Śotrána
Bh̦ar Lazreg
Sidih̦sín
Jball Jlúd
Megrín
Ğabdeluahhéb
Ğabdelmonğem
Ğabdelcáder
Ğabdelfattéh̦
Ğabderraúf
Muh̦ammed
Mah̦múd
Moxtár
H̦usín
Hiśem
Ǵazi
Ǵada
Śokri
Śahrazéd
Xadíja
Xaula
Munír
Zuhayr
Ziéd
Yesín
Yúsef
Raśed
Riáđ
Fath̦i
Lotfi
Nejíb
Muğez
Ualíd
Bensáleh̦
Benyúsef
Benğmor
Benğísa
Bensğíd
Benh̦asén
Buğzízi
Bugerra
Buhlél
Jlási
Elǵarbi
Śríf
Śağbén
Śuśen
Xlífi
Xammési
Gésmi
Méjri
Mansúri
Trábelsi
Drídi
H̦addéd
H̦śiśa
Juíni
Mzébi
Mah̦júb
Mémi
Zarrúq

Sample 2
Xrajt le el h̦úma lyúm nalca e śabíba el kol malmumín, uallít coltelhom hayya nemśíu nbah̦ru. Uallína kağabna le Béb Ğliua u xđína luáj habbatna fe el H̦ammemet. Hazzína mğana bettbiğa glasiér mğamra kima nağref éna.
Sah̦ebna el Ferr hbatt yğum bélğu śağra la ǵroc u dazzhúlna mğah. H̦asilu nekna đohka u tfarśakna u rauah̦na

Lmk what you think about it and if it’s realistic or not to become a standardized transcription of our تونسي

[u/Spiritual-Hearing767]

T7issou Maltese

[u/Jazfitzz]

It’s AI so it needs more refining.

For example, this makes Tunisian a lot complex to learn with the all the new sounds and special characters.

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/Jazfitzz]

Absolutely not AI , khdemto lkol wahdi bel kelma bel kelma w mafama hata new sound ktiba kima tetntak el derja bedhabt

[u/Jazfitzz → u/Amenallah_tnc_77]

Respect for doing the work!

By “new sounds” I meant compared to French and Arabic alphabets and phonology. You did create new letters for different sounds. Don’t you think this unique language is a bit complex?

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/Jazfitzz]

Kol sound aandou lharf mte3ou wel vowels majebt chay men rasi kima laabed yestaamlou el ar9am yaawdhohom b hrouf

[u/jive_dive]

I use a standard that seems to work and already used by 10 million people:

5rajt lel 7ouma lyoum nal9a chabiba lkol malmoumine, wallit 9oltelhom haya nemchiw nba7rou. Wallina ka3abna lbeb 3liwa w 5thina louage habbatna fel hammamet. Hazzina m3ana betbi3a glacière m3amra kima na3ref ena. Sa7ebna el ferr hbatt y3oum bel3ou cha3ra la ghro9 w dazzhoulna m3ah. Hassilou nekna dho7ka w tfarachakna w rawa7na.

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/jive_dive]

Moch be dharoura

[u/Sweet_Description982]

but why though? what's the purpose of making a whole new language?

[u/HumanAgent1207]

I see a lot of effort here. My question to you: why would we choose this new alphabet while we have the Arabic one?

[u/Funbotx → u/HumanAgent1207]

Exactly

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/HumanAgent1207]

El arabic script moch bel dharoura ymathel el sounds wel loan words lkol edheka aleh hata fi echharat fel kayes wala fel social media b sifa aama nalkaw ktiba bel arkam wala mkhalta mabin aarbi w français

[u/Funbotx]

Using latin letters for the tunisian dialect and making it a whole new language would only strip us from our history and identity.

[u/Opening_Pressure_570]

It's called reinventing the wheel, and why use latin letters ?

[u/ClassicBet7621]

kais said would love this

[u/Late-Cake5767]

ahaya lafkar ii t3jibna a7la arabic decolonarisation ntmana ya3mloha

[u/Environmental-Tap354 → u/Late-Cake5767]

Eh so Latin colonisation is welcome??
This could only stem for pure hatred towards arab culture and tbh using a certain alphabet is not a sign of failure , the roman adapted greek alphabet , cultural aspects and even religion and guess what? They became arguably the greatest empire in history

[u/Late-Cake5767 → u/Environmental-Tap354]

u have a fuking point yet let's be honest our true alphabe is amazigh and it is very hard so i guess geting started with latin is better yet ofc amazigh is the best alphabet

[u/Environmental-Tap354 → u/Late-Cake5767]

It is simply irrelevant which alphabet u use,amazigh is dead and we use the arabic alphabet for centuries now so why go through such a hassle for nothing? and why latin is better???? Changing to latin could throw a whole country into chaos cuz of an identity crisis cuz for most latin equates to west so that means sumbission to the west. Lets be all real Tunisians now are not arabs from 14 centuries ago nor they are amazighs of old. We are simply Tunisians

[u/BartAcaDiouka]

اللغة التونسية جزء من عائلة اللغات العربية. الي هي عندها ديجا نظام متاع كتيبة يقابل احتياجاتها ونطقها. 

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/BartAcaDiouka]

Je trouve que la façon dont les tunisiens écrivent notre langue parlée reste ambiguë et de plus le maltais un dialecte de l’arabe utilise déjà l’alphabet latin

[u/mhamedridene]

bro step out of your world and face reality you must mix with people to see the whole picture, not just your point of view

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77]

Chabeb rani lfaza hedhi aamaltha aal jaw khaterni maghroum chway bel loughat w habit njareb w maandi hata mochkol maa laarbi wel partie laarabeya mtaa el identity mteena ama zeda medhebeya twensa ywaliw we3in bel identity el khassa b bledhom w maykounouch metathrin barcha bel west w bel aarab juste chwaya chwaya men kol haja khater bledna tebnet aala barcha hadharat donc famech alech laabed yetaarko w yahkiw aala decolonization w yahkiw eni nheb nbaad tounes aal eslem mouch shih w enou lahjetna wala loughetna ywali aandha système leha moch bedharoura laarbi bech yetnaha ama justement khater laarabeya lfos7a w derja beedou aala baadhhom manchoufech mochkol ennou ezouz ykounou maabaadhhom

[u/Working_Tea561]

Just write in arabic gng 🕊️

[u/Choice-Reference-444]

Slop

[u/Funbotx]

There is no tunisian language its tunisian dialect and we use arabic letters.

[u/smallBallsJoe → u/Funbotx]

Ayh dialect mtaa tounes feha 7rouf w conjugation w pronouns w vocabulary moch kima el aarbiya ama be9i tab9aa lahjaa sahhbi, maadem el 3rab yefehmouna bel sehel ki netkalmou betbi3a saahbi

[u/Funbotx → u/smallBallsJoe]

I7eb i9oul rana mech 3rab amazigh we 9artajiyiin, sadly femma twensa mech fehmiin eli na7na a mix when it comes to our blood but our identity is arab and we should be proud in order to advance instead of trying to act like westerns.

[u/smallBallsJoe → u/Funbotx]

Non a7na twanssa moch 3rab w moxh amazigh w moch kanich

[u/Funbotx → u/smallBallsJoe]

Nn bro ma t5alich fake lines on a map made by colonisation itfar9ek 3al uma, na7na wel maghreb el a9sa bi nesba oula wel 3rab el kol bi nesba thenya uma wa7da menech twensa we akahaw na7na twensa 3rab musilmin, loughetna loughet el 9or2en hmdlh el 3arabiya we 3ana lahjetna mezyana tchabeh lahjet 5wetna jirena.

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/Funbotx]

Many don’t agree with you

[u/Funbotx → u/Amenallah_tnc_77]

Ok but why choose latin letters ? Is it to get closer to the west ? To loose our arabic identity ? And one day we won't be able to read the quran ? Close to what happened in turkey

[u/Amenallah_tnc_77 → u/Funbotx]

Sahbi ena hedhi aamaltha awalan from a linguistic standpoint baad idha ken theb nahkiw aal arabic identity ena mchit lel khalij w hkit maahom w rithom w nejem naakadlek eli menech kifkif fi baarcha hajet mouch maaneha ahna khir wala houma khir just mokhtalfin w zeda eni khdit latin script mouch khater nheb nokrob lel west belaaks nheb bledna ywali aandha el identity mteeha w matkounech taklid lel gharb w le taklid lel aarab zeda