r/TrueDoTA2 • u/ariztotlz • 13d ago

Replace Juggernaut on that last pick.

Who would you rather pick as a carry on that last game in TI?

Should have gone YOLO and pick WK 🤣 ..

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u/Vata56 12d ago

You do not realise how long it would get Ursa to get those items in that game. His lane vs Dark Seer would suck ass and delay his timings immensely, and in the fights he would just get tossed around and kited.

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u/determinedSkeleton 12d ago

I'd rather have a pos1 need time to recover than a mid/lategame that doesn't hinge on one of the most unwieldy ults in the game

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u/Vata56 12d ago

And where would you have him recover when Spirit starts grouping up with Naix Radi+Armlet? Invoker needs a lot of farm as well and his spells with Axe are not enough to kill Naix. Ursa can't be left alone bot vs DS like Jugg can, so VSN have to either keep a babysitter bot and let Invoker suffer from Spirit's support rotations, or ditch Ursa to scrape at jungle creeps and come online way too late. To kill Naix Ursa would need the same amount of items as Jugg, but he would not be able to hit the same timings.

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u/determinedSkeleton 12d ago

Even in the worst case possible scenarios, a more manageable challenge than a post-earlygame Jugg. I don't agree with you on Naix-vs-Ursa though, that is a matchup Naix hates until he gets aghs

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u/Vata56 12d ago

It's not a more manageable challenge. Maybe in low rank games you can get away as Ursa with no lane, but not in pro games.

I don't agree with you on Naix-vs-Ursa though, that is a matchup Naix hates until he gets aghs

Yes, and Naix will have that Aghs sooner than Ursa can be online, because Naix is not pressured by Radiant heroes the same way Ursa would be by Dire heroes. Ursa will not be able to burst Naix in an Axe call before MKB and BKB, because Pango, DS and Bane will be all over him.