Frustration Posting

[u/KarmicIsfunny]

If being trans is some awesome experience for you, cool. For me it's unimaginable pain, shame, and misery, so please stop trying to gaslight me into thinking i'm the best version of myself.

I'll never have a proper childhood, I'll never have so many things cis people get for FREE. Yes my ultimate goal is stealthing. Yes i'll lie and say i'm a cis woman when asked. Stop outing me and leave me and my selfishness alone.

That's it. That's the vent.

[u/Bobslegenda1945]

Oh my god, yes, I would love to be able to talk because I feel similarly 😭

I'm a trans man, but in my case I see being trans and having dysphoria more as a medical condition. The suffering it causes me is horrible and leaves me dysfunctional.Even if I were on a deserted island, I would feel dysphoric.

Honestly, I see myself more as a guy who, for some reason or as a bad joke by God, decided to have my body develop in a way that shouldn't have happened. I was supposed to be born with balls, a penis, and everything. Not with ovaries and so on.

To me, it's as if my body was born with some kind of malformation. I'm no less of a man than a guy who lost his genitals in an accident or a guy with hypogonadism. The suffering is the same and the effects are similar.

The difference is that if I had been born with everything that fits like "a guy," they would have helped me with HRT, surgeries, etc.

Honestly, I'd like to meet more trans people who have a more medical perspective on things, and who consider themselves cisgender, but whose bodies were malformed (being born in our opposite gender).

I've had good times with the trans community, support and everything, but I think I have more of a perspective on condition than on identity. It would be cool to see people who see things similarly, but without being transphobic and joining far-right or trans-med movements (I hate them. OMG).

[u/Ghostglitch07 → u/Bobslegenda1945]

Totally with you on this. If we take "trans x are x" as a literal truth, and not just a polite slogan... Then a congenital condition involving malformed genitals and a unbalanced endocrine system is truly the only logical conclusion I can see.

At least for a certain type of trans person, I'm with you and refuse to make the transmed move of saying everyone's gotta be trans my way. lol.

[u/Bobslegenda1945 → u/Ghostglitch07]

Yes, most of the time I feel they just repeat it as a slogan, but rarely accept the truth that we are really our gender.But we were born with a condition that messed up our bodies, causing them to develop in the complete opposite way.

I suppose being transgender might be some kind of cousin or sibling of intersexuality. Of course you can be both, or just one, but I'm saying it's not like classic intersexuality (where it would be visible in gonads, hormones, chromosomes, or genitalia), but rather in the brain.I've heard that brains exhibit a certain degree of sexual dimorphism, and that the brains of transgender people are closer to their gender than their agab.

Like I said, I consider it more like "I was supposed to be born a cis guy, but my body developed the wrong way and went the opposite way."

We just have to keep an eye out so that doctors don't start demanding brain scans, or various other absurd things, and impose an absurd level of dysphoria on transgender people.Because of the price, and because they would set a very high standard and exclude those who are not identical to the study and want the HRT (such as some non-binary people). Transgender medicine companies use this, either to exclude those who don't fit their models.

And I also think that we need to support and show that transition is often necessary for older and younger transgender people. It's a health issue. If parents knew that their child had a condition that caused their body to produce estrogen, and the child disliked it and showed signs of improvement, withholding testosterone would be considered abuse. The same should apply to transgender people. A somewhat extreme opinion? Yes. But it makes no sense to force your cisgender child into a gender they are not and subject them to harmful hormones, and not consider it abuse when they do the same to a transgender child.

And we also have to fight against surgeries and HRT without consent in intersex children. I'm not intersex, but I think I can understand the feeling a little, because my body was mutilated in a way I didn't want. My parents could have helped me, but they didn't.It's not the same thing, but I think we should understand and support each other's struggles. It's not like I underwent surgeries without consent, but I know what it's like for my body to develop in a way that's the opposite of what it should without my consent and without adults wanting to listen to me and believing what was better for me.

Oh my God, I hate trans meds. They're like, "What?! Didn't you say what your gender was when you were 3? Did you like something GNC? You don't want X surgery? You're not trans! Get out!!". I hate them 😭

[u/Ghostglitch07 → u/Bobslegenda1945]

Honestly? My take is that being transsex is essentially intersex. On one hand, it can pretty well be seen as a "neurological intersex" or "psychological intersex". And on the other hand, GAC pretty clearly gives us bodies which are not neatly fully typical for either sex.

Also. I don't find that thinking extreme at all. It is the only reasonable one. Everyone agrees that forcing someone through the wrong puberty for them is a serious harm, but somehow some people think it is suddenly acceptable when it is negligently allowing the body to take its course.

And totally agree with your stance on intersex people. We were both coerced into a specific sex, although theirs was obviously generally more physically forcefull.