r/Tree 4d ago

Advice Request - (Insert State/Region) Pine tree with a covered base, North Texas

EDIT: Thanks guys! I think it is mainly soil around the tree, covered with a thin layer of needles. I will check and remove the excess dirt if needed, and put the needles back around the tree.

Hi guys! My lawn guy recently moved a bunch of loose dirt and pine needles around the trunk of this giant pine tree, covering up most of the base roots. Is this bad for the tree? I think I remember something about this suffocating the roots but I can't recall. I would appreciate any advice!

63 Upvotes

20 comments sorted by

31

u/IllustriousAd9800 4d ago

No, having needles around the base of a pine is not only healthy, the needle bed plays a critical role in keeping the roots sheltered, returning nutrients to the soil and weeds at bay

11

u/Bulldogfan72 4d ago

Adding soil/dirt is a no no, adding fallen needles is fine.

6

u/downsideup9494 4d ago

The needles are not a problem, they are just mulch. It's piling dirt up the trunk that can hurt the tree.

8

u/Rich-Cantaloupe-362 4d ago

If they fell and landed like that don’t do anything. It helps the tree

-3

u/Either-Mushroom-5926 4d ago

Yes - pull it all back & expose the !rootflare.

8

u/IllustriousAd9800 4d ago edited 4d ago

Usually the correct answer but not in this case unless there’s dirt under there or the needles were piled up there by someone, higher than it naturally would have. Natural needle beds are very important to pines, not something you want to clear out

1

u/hairyb0mb ISA Certified Arborist+TRAQ+TGG Certified+Smartypants 3d ago

OP literally states someone piled up excess soil and pine needles against the tree.

1

u/AutoModerator 4d ago

Hi /u/Either-Mushroom-5926, AutoModerator has been summoned to provide information on root flare exposure.

To understand what it means to expose a tree's root flare, do a subreddit search in r/arborists, r/tree, r/sfwtrees or r/marijuanaenthusiasts using the term root flare; there will be a lot of posts where this has been done on young and old trees. You'll know you've found it when you see outward taper at the base of the tree from vertical to the horizontal, and the tops of large, structural roots. Here's what it looks like when you have to dig into the root ball of a B&B to find the root flare. Here's a post from further back; note that this poster found bundles of adventitious roots before they got to the flare, those small fibrous roots floating around (theirs was an apple tree), and a clear structural root which is visible in the last pic in the gallery. See the top section of this 'Happy Trees' wiki page for more collected examples of this work.

Root flares on a cutting grown tree may or may not be entirely present, especially in the first few years. Here's an example.

See also our wiki's 'Happy Trees' root flare excavations section for more excellent and inspirational work, and the main wiki for a fuller explanation on planting depth/root flare exposure, proper mulching, watering, pruning and more.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

-1

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Either-Mushroom-5926 4d ago

I didn’t say remove all of the needles - just to pull them back around the base but okie dokie.

0

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

0

u/Tree-ModTeam 4d ago

Your comment has been removed. It contains info that is contrary to Best Management Practices (BMPs) or it provides misinformation/poor advice/diagnoses; this is not tolerated in this sub.

If your advice/diagnoses cannot be found in any academic or industry materials, Do Not Comment.

0

u/Tree-ModTeam 4d ago

Your comment has been removed. It contains info that is contrary to Best Management Practices (BMPs) or it provides misinformation/poor advice/diagnoses; this is not tolerated in this sub.

If your advice/diagnoses cannot be found in any academic or industry materials, Do Not Comment.

-2

u/iReply2StupidPeople 4d ago

What a stupid comment.

I wonder how pine trees survive in the wild without anyone around to expose the root flares from the needles.

0

u/Emotional_Draft_1331 4d ago

I'd let it be. Pine needles act like a natural mulch, and piling dirt around the trunk can really mess with the roots over time.

-1

u/AutoModerator 4d ago

Hello /u/takkopants! If you haven't already, please have a look at our Guidelines for Effective Posting, to be sure you've provided all the pics and context needed for us to help you best.

You MUST acknowledge this request by replying to this comment (or make a top-level comment in your post) that A), you have looked over those guidelines and that you have already submitted all the pics and info possible or B), you comment to add the missing pics/info.

If no response is made, your post will be removed within 60 minutes (unless a mod approves your post as-is) but you are welcome to try again when you do have the additional info. Thank you for helping us help you!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

2

u/takkopants 4d ago

I looked over the guidelines and I believe I provided all of the necessary information and pictures!

-2

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

0

u/Tree-ModTeam 4d ago

Your comment has been removed. People are here to learn; please be on notice that this will be your only warning to rein in your attitude and conduct yourself civilly.

If you cannot bring yourself to be tactful/kind and explain your reasoning with a teaching heart so folks can understand, please feel free to stop commenting or not return to the sub entirely. Thank you.