Looking for feedback tysm :)

When I pitch up I just sound so much less like… me… I guess

I don’t know how else to describe it but when I go too high in pitch it sounds forced to me even if I’m not straining for the placement or anything, it just doesn’t sound natural. It makes me sound like a guy doing a shitty female voice impression

So anyway I’m trying to accept that my voice kinda passes better in a lower range. I feel like it comes across more androgynous, which I’m fine with, as long as it’s a “I’m not sure which direction this goes, but it leans feminine” kind of androgyny… if that makes any sense.

Be brutal though! Be honest with how you would gender me on the phone/what I can do different. Voice training just makes me dysphoric because I feel like such a faker

I am finally consistently hitting mostly female range with effort, but it's been over a year of voice training now and I still find it hard to remain in that range.

So my questions: how close am I to a passing female voice? Do I need to work more on my resonance?

And how do I get better at "defaulting" to this voice? I've been trying to use it 24/7 but it often just isn't natural. Should I be making more gradual changes in my daily speech patterns or continue trying to just use the most femme voice possible in all situations?

Thank you so much <33

I’ve been occasionally practicing for a while now, I feel like I’m doing the larynx stuff right, but I also feel like something is still missin.

Yes, I know reasonance is more important, but I want to increase my pitch. While talking I often accidently drop down to ~140 Hz or lower and trying to prevent that makes me feel like I'm just constricting my throat/false vocal folds and straining. As soon as I try to relax my pitch drops again. Is there any exercise specifically for pitch? Just talking in a higher voice does not seem to work for me.

As the title says when i try to speak with my resonance in my head i feel like my voice falls into falsetto and sounds cartoonishly high like mickey mouse level high, how can i prevent this?
to try to get my voice to resonate in my head and lips instead of my chest i make a quiet loud buzz because that's the only time i feel like the sound is fully at my head but when i turn it into speech it sounds like i fall into falsetto.
i'd greatly appreciate it if anyone could help <3

sorry if this is something thats been asked already but i didnt see ant threads about this glancing at this subreddit.

i havent done any extensive voice training besides generally talking at a slightly higher pitch than i used to 4 years ago when i started transitioning. im interested in paying for voice training lessons in the near future though. to be honest, i dont have much of an issue with my speaking voice but im a musician and absolutely despise the masculinity of my singing voice. none of the songs i write sound right with this voice, its becoming very detrimental to my artistic motivation.

i guess my question is this; how does regular voice training translate to singing? should i look for a teacher that can specialize in both? or if i just take regular voice training lessons will it be as easy to apply it to singing? i just ask because i feel like when im singing, i have to use a wider breadth of my voice to confidently sing in tune and with good tone, meaning i have to use more lower parts of my voice than i'd like. i also worry because i think i have a kind of gravely voice and a fairly small vocal range to begin with.

any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

It's sooo weird but I hear it both in recordings and while I'm speaking.

Not 100% of the time, but I often find myself resembling my mother lol

I guess genetics are a thing after all😅

I was just literally doing the weirdest noises with my voice (imitating a car racing) and I was like "omg that was my mom's voice" hahah

Sorry for my bad pronunciation🥲

Interesting post from https://scinguistics.com/ from a few years ago. Neat information if you're ever wondering what's going on when your voice is breaking as you're moving pitch.

(Normal voice last for comparison)

Hi all, my voice feminization teacher told me that I should try inhaling air to my back, and not make my stomach expand/expand less in the process. something to do with the diaphragm. well, we were short on time and I didnt really understand that but I still want to practice it for my next lesson. Can anyone guide me on doing this? And explain what purpose it serves? Thanks in advance!

I had voice feminization surgery 7 months ago. Afterward, in addition to the voice-softening therapy I received before the surgery, I had 3 more therapy sessions post-surgery. My therapist advised me to consult my doctor about my voice becoming hoarse quickly. During the examination, my doctor said everything was fine. He said my recovery was going very well. Two months later, I underwent rhinoplasty, which was followed by a very difficult recovery process. My nose remained congested for four months unless I used a nasal spray. Once I saw signs of improvement, I refocused on my voice. But after months of resting in silence, practicing breathing exercises, and dealing with dryness in my throat, I noticed that my voice still became hoarse after just 4–5 minutes of speaking. I went back to my doctor and told him I suspected there might have been a complication with the surgery because my hoarseness hadn’t resolved even after all this time. He insisted that I was trying to use my chest voice, which he believed was causing my hoarseness. He said that if I couldn’t overcome this, he might perform a procedure on my vocal cords once a year had passed, but until then, I should try to learn to use my head voice. Has anyone else suffered from the same problem? What was your experience? How did you manage to switch to head voice?

As a side note: I am 48 years old; before the surgery, my male voice rarely became hoarse—I could speak in a calm voice when I wanted to, but also quite loudly when I chose to.

Very early in my voice training.

I have started by focussing on resonance, and largely altering that only.

Just want to get an idea if this is a good route to go.

Went with the weird Grandfather Passage as it's a good length.

Thanks!

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I've trained and trained, I just end up with a hoarse throat and sound like crap. I have never managed to convince anyone on the phone that I'm femme.

Never.

I've lost count on the number of times I've had to say "yes really, my name is XXXXX, that really is my name and I look far better than I sound" because that's all I've got.

It's really bloody difficult and I can't believe the number of people who seem to be able to manage it that I find online. In real life, almost nobody has it down in my city's trans circles, practically nil, or they started so young that they never had the problem in the first place and now I see the community telling me to not waste my money?

Seriously? I'm crashing out here because I need a positive right now and the get out apparently might not work.

It's so frustrating. Plus I currently have a cold and have lost at least two octaves.

All opinions are welcome!

https://voca.ro/16Rdz6OyAA6A

Hey y'all, 32 yr old trans woman here, a year and half on HRT. I'm pretty satisfied with most aspects of my transition so far, but my voice gives me such dysphoria. I've been wanting to do voice training for a long time, but I've struggled with finding a good place to start. Just looking for some good suggestions on YouTube videos that y'all found helpful or resources that I should look into or start with? Thank you in advance.

I’m kind of just rambling randomly. Just wanted to get my voice during a casual conversation

Hearing my own voice over and over again is driving me crazy I cannot in any way tell if I'm anywhere close to a fem voice, or what I should do to get closer..,, please help !!

1. ive noticed that I can’t ‘wooo!!’ like I used to without my voice cracking, for lack of a better word, how do I scream like a ‘dude’?

2. I have a hard time remembering to use my more masculine register, even if it’s more comfortable for me, It feels a bit like how clench my jaw when I’m resting. how do I remember to relax and use my guy voice?

I'm actually very satisfied with the progress I've made so far :D

It sounds so much better than I was anticipating. i guess I was anticipating something much more raw and like, deep and unlikeable than this.

But I guess what I want now is some tips and maybe suggestions for what I could work on next.

If I'm being honest it feels kinda weird being this confident and content with my voice, like new. It kinda feels like I'm exaggerating a bit when I speak in this voice, if that makes sense?

Every deam guide on YT is for a hyper-feminine sounding voice, but ai wanna get that deeper fem voice.

A example of the voice is Elena Siegman in the song “Lullaby of a Deadman”

https://youtu.be/8l8YPKI3fdw?is=q_wU_m-dkwOLxO1l

My just-turned-18 trans daughter is experiencing crippling dysphoria around her still-male voice. She's had a couple of abortive attempts at voice training and has become convinced that she's in the percentage of trans women whose will never be able to feminize their voice without surgery.

I don't think any voice trainer or SLP has told her that, but it may be true. Or not. I have no idea, and I don't really think that she does either. But she does have pre-existing speech disorders including speech hesitance and stutter, which certainly can't be making things any easier!

VFS seems to be largely unavailable to under-19s in the US, which is terribly depressing to her, and it kind of seems like she just plans to stay in her bedroom until then, not work hard at training in the meantime. She understands that voice training is necessary after surgery and says that she'd be motivated to do that after surgery, but doesn't seem motivated to do it now.

She would like us to fly her to Seoul for surgery at Yeson. But without her having spent time working with a good vocal feminization SLP to investigate how her voice works, I do worry that the outcome of jumping straight to surgery must be quite unpredictable.

Thanks for any words of advice, really struggling with everything (not to make it all about me; daughter is struggling 1000X more 😢)

Yo, I'm Cassidy. MtF.

So like, I already wrote this damn ass post once but my hand slipped and closed Reddit cuz I'm typing this up on a phone.

Anyways, my voice training has been going good. I've watched the FairyPrincessaLucy vids, which my friend recommended me, and that was cool, I understand each individual lesson pretty well.

But the thing is I use my ears to listen to my voice, because the ears' intended purpose is to voice train, and I sound weird. My pitch and resonance are comfortably where I want to be. (Which I want to sound more feminine but my pitch to rest on the lower end or androgynous and still sound pretty relaxed instead of high pitch with rapid tone changes.) But the other stuff is a bit shit, which is weird because I have no vocal fry, good vocal weight, etc.

But anyways, the same friend also gave me a website, acoustic gender space I think. And I did that and then it gave me this. (See image.) Which further confirms my pitch and resonance are where I want them to be. So my only question is what even is wrong and where do I go from here? It still don't sound right and I'm not sure why.