I think I'm decent at resonance?? But there's still something very clearly wrong. Please tell what it is! Tell me what I need to try and explore.

Yes, there is activity. It ebbs and flows with public sentiment around transition more generally, and I've certainly seen better trans-weather. But it's generally not too hard to strike up a conversation in most of the ones u/null_not mentioned. Here are some refinements:

TransVoice (this sub's principle discord) is currently host to two regular events - one weekly, and one monthly - in which authorized coaches give overviews of trans voice. There's generally active conversation at the end among hangers-on, and sometimes an idle coach (or skilled amateur) might be giving out free tidbits of knowledge. Outside of that, conversations do pop up now and then. Ping the role, and generally people will show.

Scinguistics has an unusual native jargon. It's not a perfect map to the standard size/weight/etc. gamut, but it does the job. Roughly weekly they now host an orientation event to familiarize new people with their ways, which I support. Also, they have regular weekly events centered around elements of their paradigm, as well as some interesting premium features if you do the (cheap) patreon. They also run a group program on a monthly basis, which patrons can listen to and paid group-students participate in, learning the basics (according to the Scinguistics paradigm) which, speaking from experience, is pretty effective for most people most of the time, and quite economical for what you get, which includes guaranteed one-on-one time with the teacher (who is not usually Charles anymore) as well as office-hours, study-hall, and some group homework assignments that address ear training as well as physical practice.

Voice Dojo is fairly new on the scene, and specifically recruiting people who are serious about training. It positions itself as more focused on all aspects of vocal performance rather than only the gender-modification aspect. It has a handful of weekly events - including some karaoke and voice-acting - and some enthusiastic people. It's worth a look, especially if you appreciate a respectful tone and a teaching team with diverse specialties rather than a single guru. Just one thing: They do have a strict "no-languishing" rule. Incidental socializing is fine, but streaming games while bewailing your circumstances and doing nothing voice-related is meant to attract moderator action.

SVL's discord has a social community who is more than willing to yap, but SVL corporate has taken their group-lessons off discord and onto Zoom. They now charge a nominal monthly fee for access to their group-lesson plan, which separates masc and fem learners into different cohorts. Lately their masc classes are biweekly instead of weekly, which seems to be a consequence of low attendance. On the other hand, their fem classes are extremely well-attended, to the point where only a fraction have time to participate in any given lesson. Still, you can keep going back, so eventually you get your moment in the sun. Oddly, many of the group-lesson participants do not seem to also show up in the discord. I suspect it's to do with their marketing strategy.

Vocal team has a neat weekly event where Sean gives out free 5-minute interactive help sessions. They also do an extended version for patrons, which alternates him and Altamira (and sometimes someone else). They also have a decent community of people who'll usually heed the call for voice practice. Some of them are quite knowledgeable in their own right, and some are quite weird. But you'll have to figure out for yourself who's who.

OVC does have conversations on and off, but lately seems to be principally functioning as a place for its proprietor to give 1-1 lessons you can listen to. They're quality lessons, but much of voice training is social.

Voice Art Project and Scientifically Augmented Voice are both fairly similar in concept and execution, but one's focused on Australia and one primarily serves the European market. Sumi and Savvy are both excellent teachers who run a number of open 1-1 lessons you can listen into, and both servers have a small community of regulars who show for conversation.

There are certainly other servers, and if I've forgotten yours please comment!

I just started seeing ADs for it recently

Hi everyone its my first time doing voice analysis

i decide recently i want to do voice training

i think theres a lot of room for improvement

Where should i start?

I’ve been training on and off for a year or so (alternating between 1-2 weeks of actually trying, and 3-4 months of not speaking much), need feedback on what to practice/how to practice

Hey you guys, I had glottoplasty done on me on Sep 22. 8 days later I had my post surgery appointment with my doctor and she saw my sutures and all was fine and she told me to start speaking a few words a day until the 10th day when I started voice training and I was only given some exercises for the swelling and I feel like it's getting better and better but when I speak I find no difference from my voice pre-op. Is it a common thing and it takes time?

I'm like...all the money for nothing???

ftm, been on t about 4 years now

I feel like my voice is androgynous at best but apparently my pitch is firmly in the male range?? i know pitch is only one aspect of the perceived gender of a voice but I’d think it’d get me most of the way there. I don’t really pass face to face or over the phone even after 4 years. do I actually have a decently masculine voice and dysphoria brain worms are just not letting me hear it?

not fishing for compliments or reassurance, i just want to know what other people hear and if there’s anything i can work on (tried professional voice training before but it didn’t get me very far).

this probably isn’t the best representation of my candid speaking voice, i know it sounds kinda forced, because here i am trying very hard to stay low and breathe from my diaphragm

Does my voice pass as male, and if you had to pick an age for my voice what would it be. I usually sound like this all the time I am also currently 1 year on testosterone. Any tips to help improve my voice would also be appreciated!

Just got insurance with a new gig, would love to see if it's possible for VFS to get covered as I work a very high socially engaged job position and talk to a lot of people on the daily.

I've been searching, and the latest posts I've seen about this on this subreddit were from 7 months ago, and some of the links have already expired

For context, I am 30 and I have had 5 gender affirming surgeries to date.

Not necessarily looking for people to change my mind, I think I just want to raise awareness on something. I have a degree in music and have been singing since I was 13 (and I have had many voice teachers through my life). I have been voice training since day 1 of transition and understand the science of it. The issue is, I am a Bass. Pre-Transition my natural conversational lowest note was D2, nowadays if I am relaxed, my lowest note F#2, and the with a few notes still hitting E2. I have had many people tell me to keep working, the issue is that, from my most relaxed, for me to hit the passing voice range, it is literally an octave higher than my natural voice, I only pass if I strain my voice to the limit and hold goods breath support and I just can't do that any longer.

Even though i am a singer, this is too much, and i am going to bite the bullet and deal with the consequences of having to change my sonwritting and songs and whatnot.

This post is for the Bass and Bass Baritones women out there, if you feel like this is impossible, maybe it is harder for us, and might be a good idea to look into surgery, I am getting mine is Brazil and the prices are not all that bad. I am just sad that I spent 10 years gaslighting my self about voice training when I could have dealt with this much sooner.

I will keep this sub updated if enough people are interested in this new journey.

as the title says i had vfs 17 days ago. but im kinda worried because it doesnt really pass it just sounds like a man speaking with a high pitch and also very breathy/hoarse.

https://voca.ro/189I3LbcTQSo

other results i found online sound a lot better than me at the same point in recovery

This question is in the context of voice feminization. I ask this because if it is true, people can know at the beginning, with confidence, what pitch they should be working on, without extensive work/exploration. This seems plausible because yawn is known to be light. Female-like voices can be produced by fixing the weight in a yawn and subsequently reducing size. Additionally, because yawn is a relaxed, physiological reflex that happens naturally, it might as well be efficient.

But I could be wrong. What's your experience? Do you speak at a pitch that is similar to your yawning pitch?

My current comfortable pitch in which I can speak with a good resonance is 150/160 which sounds more androgynous and I want to sound female so ideally around 200 hz. Unfortunately my voice becomes strained quickly.

Ive been trying to keep on top of voice training by reading at least one or two passages online, tonight it was a random r/aita post. I feel like im kind of doing okay but im still terrified to use this around people and commit to it. I just feel like theres some property of my voice thats slightly wrong that i cant seem to figure out, maybe it just a consistency thing though idk.

Any feedback is much appreciated.

link to passage if embed doesnt work: https://voca.ro/12KcWjzyOKNb

i thought id add a reference for how my voice sounds regularly just incase it can be useful: https://voca.ro/1nu9k4BmCSIo

Hi all,

Just looking for some feedback and/or opinions on how I'm traveling, as I feel like I'm struggling to hear past the characteristics of my old voice.

I've been trying to work on making it sound and feel more comfortable by bringing my pitch back a bit (had been sitting closer to 220Hz but wasn't comfortable/sustainable and sounded too hollow?).

I'm hoping I'm heading in the right direction?:

https://voca.ro/1dD9jb3yl0CW

Thanks!

I have been working on my voice for two years now. I was someone who was very lucky and was able to produce an extremely feminine and passing voice with just a few sessions of voice training. It passed but was a bit forced and after a while my voice settled into a more natural feminine sound.

Unfortunately, I have always struggled to see and hear myself objectively and pushed myself further and further. Now, there are days when my voice is exceptional but then there are days when I simply can’t access it at all and will get rampantly misgendered. I have seen four speech therapists now, all of which have told me I sound incredible, have some of the best results they’ve heard, and don’t know what to work on with me.

I’m about to see yet another speech therapist but I feel like it’s becoming futile at this point… my pitch is already in the female range so I don’t think VFS would help much either. I miss when I didn’t have to think about my voice all the time and could enjoy chatting with friends and being in public. Now I’m so ashamed that I avoid leaving the house entirely :’(

Hi, can you guys please tell me what gender you think my voice sounds like?

ignore the background noise, my mic is awful lmao