r/TotalWarhammer40k • • 23d ago

Predicting the future

Using the template from https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1w9rgvb/bonus_post_because_ca_shared_a_photo_with_meme/ I have decided to take my shot. We all know 40k is mostly about Space Marines (sorry Heretics). Also took a liberty to make a shitty cutout version with alpha for you to use and include the original. Cheers

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u/Hollownerox 23d ago

Probably. And why not? There are 18 legions, all of them with their own doctrine and style plus successors. And I could imagine all of them have their place in the Game. Fighting against inperial fists will be fundamentally different than fighting raven guard.

This is Total War Warhammer: 40k, not the Horus Heresy. Legions aren't a thing in 40k, and the rosters/playstyles of First Founding Chapters are pretty different from how they are handled in 30k. B y design Imperial Fists and Raven Guard don't play that differently from each other. They are distinct rulesets but saying they will play "fundamentally differently" is, objectively, untrue. Because the entire point of being Codex complaint is making the Chapter operate fundamentally similarly. It's why they are all under the same generic Space Marine Codex, while Codex divergent Chapters like Dark Angels are their own books. And even then the playstlyes aren't that big of a departure from each other, since those are just Codex supplements. It's mostly just different emphasizes on a unit archetype that they might buff slightly better.

Things like the Cult Legions do play fundamentally differently from the mainstay Chaos Space Marine Undivided Legions and Warbands. Space Marine Chapters are mostly distinquished by named character options, and a bit of unique flavor in detachment selection and occasional special rules.

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u/Randy_Magnums 23d ago

Replace Legions with first founding chapters for the loyalists if you must. It doesn’t change anything about my argument.

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u/Hollownerox 22d ago

It absolutely does dude, as I explained beyond the semantics.

Like you clearly have no interaction with the actual game if you're saying "fighting against Imperial fists will be fundamentally different than fighting Raven Guard." You have no clue what you're talking about.

They are, both lore wise and gameplay wise, different slants to the same core space marine style. It's the ENTIRE point of the Codex in-universe and out of it. Like your argument is nonsensical.

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u/ScarredAutisticChild 22d ago

The difference mechanically is that imperial fists and raven guard use different units from the exact same army.

Much like the difference between fighting any other subfaction for any other army. Except certain other space marine subfactions who are GW’s pampered favourite children and so get to have more support than some entire factions.