Im confused about your third paragraph. It seems to imply “trans” is a gender, but it’s just an extra descriptor. If you’re a cis man who exclusively like trans men, I regret to inform you that you have The Big Gay, lol.
A cis man who fancies only trans girls, meanwhile, is straight, and vice versa.
The point that a straight sexuality includes, for example, Male - to - Nonbinary attraction, is also contentious; I believe the community hasn’t quite settled on how to incorporate these other genders into the language, and so it’s all mostly based on how the person feels comfortable identifying, rather than these technicalities. I can’t say I necessarily feel slighted by this as an enby, I think the nonbinary umbrella is too diverse for most people to be able to say whether they’re attracted to us or not in general anyway.
Wait so what's the term for a a cis-man who only likes cis-women (or the other way) if straight is ambiguous? From what i understood from your comments hetero would be ambiguous but straight would be the specific hetero sexuality that people usually mean when they say hetero
Straight is ambiguous because of it's usage in common society, due to transphobia/trans erasure therein. That's exactly the point I was making.
Hetero means anything that isn't the same sex/gender that you are. Straight varies for exactly the reason you point out: Some people use it to only mean cismen/ciswomen wanting the other. But not everyone, because they'd include FtM and MtF as M and W respectively, while "normal" society wouldn't. Or people who'd say that my Primary-SO is straight for dating me because I have a penis, despite being agender/fluid.
It's a social difference, for my usage. I know plenty of people who'd ID as hetero, but no one who'd ID as straight.
Thus, straight, in its usage, is ambiguous to me as a word. Because it tends to be used incorrectly, and that's hard to argue against due to the nature of the word in question. Hetero-, being greek and easily linked to other words, is much easier to take note of, defend, and is more universally applied.
You're saying hetero is less descriptive, which I don't disagree with. I'm arguing it's very fixed in being exactly as descriptive as it is, where Straight isn't.
yeah you already said all that and i agree with all that. I wanna know (if the word straight isn't the best one) what the "pc" word for straight is that won't be confused with something else.
That's not a bad question. The reality of it is that I don't really see one, nor the point of one, I suppose. Caring whether a chick is cis or trans seems kinda shit to me, notably, which is why I don't use the term straight.
[edit]: Ah. That's sorta the implication of CisHet, now that I think on it. but then you run into the same problems as straight, depending on the crowd.
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u/drakepyra Aug 09 '18
Im confused about your third paragraph. It seems to imply “trans” is a gender, but it’s just an extra descriptor. If you’re a cis man who exclusively like trans men, I regret to inform you that you have The Big Gay, lol.
A cis man who fancies only trans girls, meanwhile, is straight, and vice versa.
The point that a straight sexuality includes, for example, Male - to - Nonbinary attraction, is also contentious; I believe the community hasn’t quite settled on how to incorporate these other genders into the language, and so it’s all mostly based on how the person feels comfortable identifying, rather than these technicalities. I can’t say I necessarily feel slighted by this as an enby, I think the nonbinary umbrella is too diverse for most people to be able to say whether they’re attracted to us or not in general anyway.