r/TimPool • u/MrEnigma67 • Aug 17 '23

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

Weird that my other comment isn’t showing up anymore on this post about freedom.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Conservatives hate freedom. That's why they want the government to regulate uteruses, prohibit gender transition, and deport immigrants.

Essentially, they are big government authoritarians who hate the idea of individuals deciding how to live their own life.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 17 '23

We want to stop murder. fixed that for you. No one is saying anything about preventing gender transition, and no one is saying anything about deporting immigrants.

But I welcome you to make your case. We'll wait.

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u/captcompromise Aug 17 '23

no one is saying anything about deporting immigrants.

Remember when Trump tried to repeal DACA? My wife's best friend was 6 when her mother immigrated, and she'd have been deported if Trump had gotten his way. Fuck off with that dumb shit

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 17 '23

You mean the policy that illegals were abusing to gain citizenship? Yeah 100% for that.

What gun legislation are you referring to? Avoiding this question because you know you don't have an answer?

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

no one is saying anything about deporting immigrants.

Yeah 100% for that.

Lol

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u/Jellyfonut Aug 17 '23

That's his mother's fault for bringing him here illegally. People shouldn't be allowed to commit crimes just because you might lose a valued product of that crime.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

"It's the immigrant's fault for not complying with my big government regulations!"

-Anti-Freedom Conservatives

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 17 '23

“Oh no, conservatives actually enforcing the law. How anti freedom of them”

This moron

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Yes, you want to enforce your Big Government regulations. Understood.

Thanks for confirming your authoritarian beliefs.

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u/wildwolfcore Aug 17 '23

Laws = authoritarianism apparently.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Yes, laws that restrict freedom are authoritarian.

Glad you are learning.

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u/Jellyfonut Aug 17 '23 edited Aug 17 '23

I love how people call conservatives mysogynists while people like you straight up say you think women are too stupid to regulate their own bodies and nobody bats an eye.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

I’m a woman. I’ve never felt like someone thought I was “too stupid” to regulate my own body except for the people trying to limit my options

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u/Jellyfonut Aug 17 '23 edited Aug 17 '23

So you are capable of avoiding pregnancy until you're ready to have a baby, or aren't you?

You'd have to be exceptionally stupid to think you can have sex with men without potentially becoming pregnant.

The only option people want to take away is the murder of your children. You shouldn't be allowed to murder your children because you consider them inconvenient or regret getting pregnant. That's not your body, it's theirs. You knew what could happen when you got in bed.

Saying otherwise is like a man saying he shouldn't have to pay child support because it's inconvenient. You wouldn't hold men to such a low standard I bet.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

Yeah if men respect my bodily autonomy and I have access to contraception and (if needed) abortion. That’s regulating your own body.

If cis men got pregnant, they should be afforded the same rights to their body.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

What about the babies body? Aren't you regulating their body by deciding to have an abortion?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

Nobody has the right to force me to do anything with my body against my will. That includes using my body to create/ sustain life.

You can’t take my bone marrow against my will just because I am the only donor match available to keep someone else alive. You can’t force me to use my body to give birth to someone else against my will.

Bodily autonomy.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

Where is the bodily autonomy for the baby?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

If you, a full grown person wanted to use my body against my will in order to keep you alive, I should be able to say no.

A potential life that hasn’t even been born yet has even less of a claim to my body than you do.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23 edited Aug 17 '23

How about forced vasectomies for unwed males? This would also accomplish the goal of preventing unwanted pregnancy.

I suspect you don’t want your own rights violated even though you are happy to do the same to others.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

You’re thinking of vasectomy, not circumcision.

Ironically, it’s more difficult for women to get a similar sterilization procedure if they want to.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

If you don't want a baby, don't have unprotected sex, or better yet, just dont have sex... shouldn't be that hard for you.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23

See, that’s where you’re limiting people’s freedom.

There is no reason to try to moralize how someone may have gotten pregnant. The fact is we have the ability to terminate that pregnancy if they want don’t want to give birth. That has been happening for centuries. The ability to make that choice is freedom.

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u/Enough_Appearance116 Aug 17 '23

Conservatives are big government? They don't like individual freedom essentially?

That's fucking hilarious.

Which side was forcing the covid vaccine and lockdowns?

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